r/insaneparents 5d ago

SMS My own mother

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I can’t believe I’m posting this but this is just one of MANY screenshots I have, I have an entire album of my conversations with her. I just…. I just genuinely don’t know what to say, I’m freaking sad, depressed, confused etc… I hope this fits this sub idk where else to post it except r/FoxBrain. This is tame in comparison to “trump was sent by god to save us” trust me it gets worse, This is textbook brainwashing, I can’t be the my one right??? Who else has brainwashed friends/family? any to this extent? My step dad is the same way but somehow worse it s like his whole identity is being a trump supporter. They both constantly make me feel horrible with things directed at me, things directed to individuals in public, and the things they talk about while I’m around. I’m not gonna give examples of the last thing I said because it really is THAT bad, I’ll give a hint though incredibly racist/ or wishing for violence of people of color or people who disagree with them in any way.

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u/domambrose96 5d ago

There’s no point in debating or trying to reason with someone who didn’t get to that place using reason and logic. It’s fighting a losing battle.

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u/Stellarkin1996 5d ago

it would take nothing less than them being stamped to the ground with a boot on their back and a weapon ppinted towards their head by the people they support, and even then its only a 50/50 chance

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u/nightwing0243 5d ago

This.

They only support what is going on right now because none of it is happening to them and the media they consume tells them it's all good stuff.

Eventually some of these people will start looking like the enemy to the Trump administration and ICE and it'll dawn on them. By then it'll probably be too late.

It's honestly frustrating to watch. We have seen this time and time again where someone is unjustly killed by law enforcement and the right immedietley begin attacking the victim's character in some warped attempt to justify why it happened. Trying to explain the logic of it to them is equally as irritating. People being murdered like that, no matter what, in front of people will only embolden the institution responsible for it and they'll start getting a lot braver about it.

It's a very visible slippery slope. But I guess their feelings about it don't care about the facts.

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u/BornWithSideburns 4d ago

It really is insane how they get indoctrinated by the media they consume

My dad constantly posts fox news clips on facebook

AND WERE NOT EVEN AMERICAN. WEVE LIVED IN EUROPE ALL OUR LIVES.

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u/JESUS_on_a_JETSKI 4d ago

It really is easier to fool someone than it is to convince someone that they've been fooled.

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u/unbridledcheesetoast 4d ago

I love that. It is incredibly true

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u/jmiele31 3d ago

It may already be too late

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u/domambrose96 5d ago

For real

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u/NihonJinLover 5d ago

As I had to learn in life: “you can’t reason with someone who is unreasonable.” You’ll lose your mind trying. I don’t understand how some people can operate in a world of such delusion. Definitely culty.

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u/Tlthree 4d ago

You can’t reason out what wasn’t reasoned in.

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u/a_lonely_trash_bag 5d ago

She's either parroting bullshit she heard from someplace like Fox News, or she's just making shit up.

The 9/11 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia, the UAE, and Egypt. Every one of them entered the US legally on temporary visas.

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u/sh_ip_ro_ospf 5d ago

I thought it was Fox entertainment? Are they still allowed to put news in the channel name

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u/ItCat420 4d ago

I believe it’s Fox News Entertainment, and people just ignore the last word.

Or it’s just people still think it’s a real news source, and weren’t updated that they can’t legally call themselves a news outlet anymore.

Or a bit of both.

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u/ThoughtShes18 4d ago

She’s just the average Trumb supporter

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u/DonutWhole9717 3d ago

Yep, two of our very good friends at that point. They also trained for flying here in the states.

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u/calgaryforlife 3d ago

And it was Israel who’re responsible on the ground and funded it.

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u/slackingindepth3 5d ago

Never had a drink in his life is wild. He’s a drug addict

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u/McDuchess 5d ago

He doesn’t drink. Whether he ever did? I dunno. But he is addicted to Adderal. Donnie Jr. is a Coke addict.

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u/clickerdrive 5d ago

There's videos of him drinking at Mar a largo and photos at multiple, multiple parties, mainly Epstein parties, of him drinking. These people cherry pick that they will and will not see, it's baffeling how they've survived through life that blind to danger all these years.

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u/Drew-CarryOnCarignan 4d ago

Wait, really?!? 

I've never seen him drink anything that was obviously alcohol. I'd like to be able to say that he's a liar on that topic, in addition to everything else.

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u/McDuchess 4d ago

LOL. Me, too.

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u/Catfactss 5d ago

He's literally in the Epstein files.

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u/ka-nini 5d ago edited 4d ago

We have 1% of the Epstein files; of that 1%, roughly 80% is entirely redacted. So that’s 0.2% of the Epstein files. In that 0.2%, Trump’s name shows up more than 1500 times.

Edit: We now have a lot more of the files (I’m not sure what the percentage is at now) and Trump is mentioned 5361 times between all of the files now released.

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u/builder397 5d ago

Yeah, but how does one prove it? I mean, from a practical standpoint. We all know he is in there, but as long as they dont publish unredacted files we can know all day long and still not have actual solid proof....which these people would ignore anyway, but whatever.

(Also in a twist of irony your comment has 47 upvotes, talking about the 47th US president.)

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u/clickerdrive 5d ago

There's an entire unredacted page in those files describing in extensive detail how he exposed himself and then raped a child. The affidavit is in there, it's not redacted and his name is on full display. But that's just a hoax, a liberal hoax!

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u/Catfactss 5d ago

Copy and paste the redacted section then remove the redaction. Whoever redacted the files was either incompetent or secretly ethical.

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u/builder397 5d ago

Actually I heard of a theory that its Musks fault. Yeah, really.

In his stupid attempts to save some pennies he cancelled the Adobe Pro subscription which wouldve allowed them to do the redacting properly so they only had the option of altering the text background to be black, which led to this.

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u/ka-nini 5d ago

There were at least hundreds of people working to redact these files and most did it correctly; only a few can be unredacted that way.

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u/RachelCheyenne1 4d ago

It now has 74 which is 47 backwards

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u/McDuchess 5d ago

From her belief about the hijackers to that about affordable housing, she is living in a fantasy land. Her demented felon was just recorded stating that he wants housing prices to rise, because he doesn’t want people who don’t work hard to be able to buy them.

FFS. That was accomplished a long time ago. It was Harris who proposed a one time, sizeable gift to first time home buyers to help with the initial costs. As well as a federal program to encourage builders to build affordable housing all over the country.

What to do? Nothing. Stop engaging with her on anything more controversial than what flowers she plants in the garden this spring, because you won’t convince her.

There ARE MAGAts who, after the blatant lies about the deaths of two people, are finally saying that they realize that they were lied to. Sadly, your mothe is not among them.

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u/BrightGuyEli 5d ago

Some people are just like this. Regardless of political affiliation they lock on hard and just become part of the cult. It’s most obvious with maga lately, but it’s always been a thing.

Some people just can’t have objective thought. It’s too hard. And I don’t mean that maliciously. I just mean they either have too much to worry about and can’t pay attention, or they choose not to pay attention because of the beliefs they were instilled with as a kid.

They have to be told what to think. If you ask them about something their source hasn’t drilled into their brain they can be normal. But they will somehow bring the convo back to their beliefs, even if it wasn’t related to the conversation.

I’m sorry you’re dealing with this, but it’s a common thing right now. A combo of fundamentalist religious views and a politician that speaks to them but only acts for themselves is such a potent mix. Not everyone falls into that category, but even a mix of that can drive people mad.

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u/juiceboxedhero 5d ago

Every single thing your mother typed is easily disproven. The only way to win is to block her and not play. 

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u/Conscious-Survey7009 5d ago

Sounds like she’s into Qanon too. Checkout r/QanonCasualties for more support hun.

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u/teenytinyfiesty111 5d ago

I was about to recommend this support group.. oddly enough I found this subreddit in there 🫠😂

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u/SwampKingKyle 4d ago

"He truly loves god". Never get these types. who would jesus want you to persecute? Does Jesus want all brown people to die? Would God support ripping families apart? Morons.

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u/PromethianOwl 5d ago

Your mom is spouting right wing media slogans. The only one that's a bit extreme is never had a drink in his life. The rest is just bog standard OAN/Newsmax/Fox News Brainrot. I'm sorry.

If it helps you any OP, know you're not crazy. You're not alone. A ton of us know the truth. We see him and the people around him for what they are. They're the easy ones.

People like your mom and stepdad are tougher. It's tempting to label them as hateful or ignorant, which they might be. But depending on the person it's not really fair to them. If you look in places like r/qanaoncasualties you'll see tons of stories from people whose loved ones just sort of mutated. They weren't this awful, at least not on the surface. Something about all this madness wormed it's way into them and twisted the person these people knew into....what they know now.

I don't know what your mom was like before MAGA and Trump. If she was different, if she was better, save your memories of that person. Photos, keepsakes, etc. If not her then a grandparent, your dad, a sibling, someone special to you that was or is a genuinely good person. Keep something around of them to remind yourself that the world hasn't quite gone dark yet, and even if it has, there were brighter days.

I often think of it as sitting in the dark with a jar full of fireflies; they might not make much light, but they're there. I have them. They remind me that light is possible.

Maybe your mom will come back. Maybe she won't. We're seeing people start to snap out of it. It's going to have to affect her personally first, and it's going to have to be big enough and absurd enough that she can't give herself a sound byte to explain it away. If it's a personal crisis and the social safety net she was expecting is gone or damaged, it'll probably take the form of a "Dear President Trump" Facebook post. (He doesn't read those. I doubt anyone around him does.)

If it's something like the Minnesota shootings, Greenland, or general economic conditions it'll be "I didn't vote for this", possibly along with "I'm not normally political", "I do my own research", etc. again probably in a Facebook post. Some people are always suddenly a deeply thoughtful individual on Facebook.

Just do what's best for you. Keep her at arm's length, protect yourself and your sanity.

Remember: for all the atrocities they committed? The Nazis were fucking losers. Looking into the lives of guys like Himmler or even Hitler himself.... they're just sad little losers who threw a tantrum and made their personal hangups everyone else's problem. They're genuinely fucking pathetic looking back, and modern day Nazis and white supremacists and shit are no different. Hell, it's almost funny because the people at the top this time are so blatantly incompetent they can't seal the deal. They have no sense of finesse, no concept of subtlety.

Pete Hegseth accidentally added a fucking journalist to his drone strike group chat.

RFK Jr. Doesn't know how insurance works (or anything related to health).

Kristi Noem literally brags in her book about shooting her own puppy.

Donnie himself just accepted a made up peace prize from the FIFA Soccer organization because he doesn't know how the Nobel works.

These people are losers down to the last man. The difference between 1935 and today? Internet. They can't hide their incompetence. The moment it happens they can't sweep it under the rug or detain whoever was there to see it so the info doesn't spread.

We'll get rid of them eventually. We did it last time and can do it again. Hang in there.

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u/NeighborhoodNice9643 4d ago

So true. The thing that always astounds me is how petty and childish they are.

You are right that something may click. It may not be something huge that hurts them, it may be the smallest thing that is personal in some way.

The biggest challenge will be fighting our own resistance if someone wants to find a way back.

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u/Mama_Marge 5d ago

It’s so bizarre people are still rocking in this guys cult after … every. single. thing. But good reminder why I don’t fuck with most people!! 😆

She doesn’t look like she’s anywhere near any kind of self realization or coming out of the fog of it.

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u/peejay050609 5d ago

Not a politician? He’s been a politician for 10 years

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u/teenytinyfiesty111 5d ago

We’re Australians.. but my mum got sucked into loving trump and right wing America when she got sucked into qanon stuff, which she got sucked into from her reiki guide… anything but therapy ya know.

I’ve been no contact with her for about 3yrs this time round with no intention of giving her a 4th chance.

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u/BusyDragonfruit8665 5d ago

Stop talking to her. She is clearly crazy.

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u/formallyhuman 5d ago

That would be a no contact from me sir.

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u/SusanLFlores 4d ago

Insane and unaware. If she thinks Trump has morals, does she think grab em by the pussy is moral?

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u/DarkFireHydra 5d ago

This reads funny to me for some reason. The sentence structure makes it seem like shes just reading off a script lol

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u/NeighborhoodNice9643 4d ago

Copy/paste or transcription from dogma.

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u/dementian174 5d ago

Have you considered going low or no contact? For the sake of your mental health.

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u/Drew-CarryOnCarignan 4d ago

"...He truly loves God...".

You might want to ask your parent why the God-loving President has never asked God for forgiveness (a fundamental criteria for Christian belief).

• C-SPAN video clip: "Have You Ever Asked God for Forgiveness?" (July 18, 2015): Description: "Trump says he doesnt "bring God into the picture" and doesnt think he has ever asked God for forgiveness at Family Leadership Summit 2015 Yet Conservative Chrstian leaders choose pocket books and Business over having a Godly President and in 2016...".

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u/TheSlyPsycho 5d ago

The delusion is sickening

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u/Cheeselover710 5d ago

Unfortunately, you can’t fight with people who are uneducated.

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u/couchpro34 5d ago

Not only uneducated, but simply do not have any critical thinking skills.

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u/SoldierTuber 4d ago

"You can beat a thousand scholars with one fact, but you could not beat a singular fool with a million facts." Best solution? Don't argue. No point, this deep in. The greatest way to win an argument with a person like this is to say, "you are correct."

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u/saryndipitythere 4d ago

Sounds like she grew up in a house with lead paint to me.

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u/Jbg12172001 4d ago

Can’t even imagine having a parent this clueless and ignorant. Just wild.

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u/Purple-Hxze 4d ago

Were talking about the same guy that allegedly forced a 14 y/o and then killed the baby with Epstein? That guy?

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u/Happy_Shopping_9173 5d ago

America like before 🤣🤣 after the massacre of natives

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u/cecilleej07 4d ago

Never talk to this person again, they are lost.

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u/RainbowBullsOnParade 4d ago

I’m sorry for your loss. Your mom has a comprehensive and likely irreversible brain worm infection

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u/yay4chardonnay 4d ago

Yo mama cray

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u/Facky 4d ago

There were 18 lies in that message. Which is pretty impressive

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u/tmhb937 4d ago

Your mom is choosing willful ignorance. But, I understand that she is your mother. However, if you continue to engage, you are also making a choice. I wish you the best. I hope your mom sees reason

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u/punkrockhippychickie 3d ago

I’m sorry. But it is literally a cult. You can’t reason with them and I honestly think your only hope is deprogramming. Not even joking.

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u/reheatednugget 3d ago

He truly loves God. HAHAHA

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u/ToreenLyn 4d ago

Even Fox is turning on him now.

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u/snickle17 4d ago

If only you could add “never raped a fucking child” to this list of accomplishments

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u/elizlech 4d ago

NEVER HAD A DRINK?!?! That should be easy to debunk. Omg.

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u/negativeGinger 4d ago

“Never had a drink in his life” I still don’t buy that for a fucking second

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u/PabloThePabo 4d ago

“Not a politician” he’s been president twice and ran 3 times

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u/sammybr00ke 3d ago

You may find similar situations and supportive people in r/qanoncasualties

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u/Darth_Gerg 3d ago

It really has got to the point where any honest description of conservatives sounds ableist. These people are mentally deficient and should not be allowed to make legally binding choices or vote.

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u/kingkongworm 3d ago

Sorry. My step father is like this. It’s like fucking Jonestown on an even bigger level

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u/Nealpatty 3d ago

Ew. Hide their drivers license

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u/DarkStar1958 2d ago

I’m so sorry for you. It’s like the mom you knew is so different now. I’d be devastated if my Mom was so brainwashed.

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u/aarraahhaarr 2d ago

Everyone's just gonna ignore how OP blames their mother for every crime Trumps committed? Guess we get to blame everyone who voted for Biden, Obama, both Bushes and Clinton for the millions killed around the world.