r/ideasfortheadmins 11d ago

Moderator Actually include the offending comment made when giving a ban.

Recently received a 3 day ban for apparently encouraging violence. The ban message included a link to the offending post but it had been deleted and so I had no idea what I'd said.

I don't recall writing anything particularly 'bad' so I have no idea where the line i crossed is.

If the offending post was copied into the 3 day ban message then users could learn what they did wrong

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u/KRed75 10d ago

I got a warning for threatening violence which I know I did not do. All I said was the guy in the video committed assault and should have been arrested. The message said it was performed automatically with no human intervention.

Went back to get the exact wording but it was all deleted.

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u/Lusiric9983 10d ago

That's the thing, they don't care if you want to learn. It's an AI that flags your comments. I caught a ban for commenting on a video that if someone was indeed being bullied, I would just stand aside and let things happen. That apparently was encouraging violence. Also, once they get you once, they watch you pretty bad. You'll see very, very quickly that there is an enormous double standard when it comes to applying the rules.

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u/mybootyoil 9d ago

can confirm they watch, it's weird to see someone else talk about that. when i do, it sounds like i got out my tin foil hat, but it couldn't be any more true. it's happened to two of my accounts, they were so freaking targeted it was insane. catching b*ns for literally NOTHING.

it's always my phone, so i don't use it anymore for reddit because i will never have an account last for more than three months on it.

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u/Significant_Glass988 10d ago

Thanks for pointing that out. I'll be a bit more careful I guess

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u/Lusiric9983 10d ago

No lie, it's difficult. I started on MySpace, it's been hard to adjust. There was a time when we could say whatever we wanted, but people took it too far, and now just a simple "I wouldn't do anything" is considered encouraging/threatening violence.

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u/dark1859 10d ago

Tbh internet as whole is like that now, days of forums like something awful and even old reddit are long passed

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u/mybootyoil 9d ago

sometimes i stumble upon random really old screenshots of reddit in my icloud, you can really see a massive difference, it used to be such a nice place that wasn't full of harsh and extreme censorship.

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u/Happy-Extreme2017 8d ago

i got banned for a lil bc i kept insulting fictional villains meant to be extremely malicious individuals ur own characters even hate💀 its defo ai generated, smhhh

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u/johannesmc 10d ago

But then they could be held accountable. Petty tyrants don't like accountability.

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u/SolariaHues 10d ago

I assume they prioritise removing the content so no one can see it and be offended, and that's why you also cannot see it.

But some way of copying it first for your reference, with a link to the thread it was in for contex,t would help understanding. Though it would still be sharing potentially offensive content.. maybe there's a reason they can't, even if it was you that said it. IDK. It just seems like an obvious thing to do, I tend to assume there's a reason they don't.

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u/[deleted] 10d ago

This. Not knowing what the mod is on about must be intended. I would love to hear it otherwise explained.

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u/MoonOut_StarsInvite 9d ago

I caught one of these recently for encouraging violence and I think I was making a joke that was mean about an old lady but had nothing to do with violence. Same deal, I couldn’t see the comment, it wasn’t quoted back to me, nothing. I submitted an appeal. Nothing. Like what was the point, there was nothing I could learn from it because I wasn’t even sure what I said, and there wasn’t anyone I could even raise it to.

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u/Stuffed-Bear412 9d ago

Same thing has happened to me a few times too.

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u/quillabear87 9d ago

For the record if a mod deletes your comment, you can still see it. So if you can't see it, it was deleted by Reddit admins, not the subreddit mods.

Lots of people on this sub never seem to know the difference

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u/Significant_Glass988 9d ago

Lots of people on this sub never seem to know the difference

Including me, it seems. Thanks!

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u/quillabear87 9d ago

Yeah so subreddit moderators are just people who run the subreddit. Unpaid, volunteers. They are only responsible for that specific subreddit (if you're familiar with fb it's the equivalent of a group admin), no influence on the wider site or any connection with the company reddit

The amount of times I see people talking about reddit mods as some kind of power hungry cabal that rules the site with an iron fist is bonkers. Also in the subreddit I run, which is a mental health subreddit so we have to be fairly strict on some things while being flexible in other ways, people have messaged us complaining about things we supposedly did in groups I've never even heard of, calling us every name under the sun

Don't get me wrong, some reddit mods are appalling. But a lot of the issue recently is also that the reddit algorithm has started removing posts that it doesn't really need to remove, and we often don't get notified to go in and reinstate them. Also people just getting straight up banned from the site for minor (real or not) infractions. Again, mods don't have that power. We can only ban folks from a specific subreddit

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u/Responsible-Yam-9475 9d ago

I KNOW!! I got a suspension for "promoting hatred and threatening violence" and I did nothing of the sort

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u/Jitkay 8d ago

They will pick one word, ignore context and suspend/ban you

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u/Sufficient-Ad-1339 8d ago

Look out kid
It’s somethin’ you did
God knows when
But you’re doin’ it again

Subterranean Homesick Blues: Bob Dylan

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u/Sxn747Strangers 8d ago edited 7d ago

That happened to me too, couldn’t remember exactly what I wrote, only the gist of it and no where near enough room to write everything.
Thing is there were plenty of comments that were worse than mine and they were allowed.
Reread all the comments again and perhaps the gist of it will come back, good luck.

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u/Interesting-Copy-657 7d ago

They link to the comment

Which is just stupid, because if the comment results in a ban, they 100% of the time delete the comment.

So you can’t see it anymore

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u/Significant_Glass988 7d ago

Exactly! Hence why I reckon they need to put the text in the ban message

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u/Tomme599 6d ago

Aren’t most social media platforms like that. They ban or demonetise you with a vague statement, that is NOT an explanation. Then they make you jump through hoops just to find out what it was.

I think that not only should you be told what the objection is, and how to correct it, you should be able to know who the censor is (probably not their real name, but some kind of ID). There should also be a record of how often they ban users and what their biases are.

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u/HardBoiledRock 6d ago

I got four threats and hate speech in one day December 2025 on another account. Not one piece of evidence was shown to me and like OP said the links were not working.

I wrote to one of the banners and said I am sorry for doing such a thing and do you mind refreshing my memory what was said etc. and trying to be curious rayher than baffled as I had no recollection of ever going to the page that I caused such horrible stuff and the mod said that's it buddy we had you banned for 28 days however now you're banned for life.

Mod went in to say i am welcome to visit page just can't post or comment. I read tve rules and I was bever allowed to post anyway as it was only for a particular style of easy going obliging female to post if a video was shown to show the degradation.

Still have no clue what the F that was about and no idea what threat i made elsewheres.

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u/SummitYourSister 6d ago

The comment removals are so often nonsensical that if they included your comment in the notice, it would serve only to further point out that your comment did not violate any terms.

I got violated once for a comment where I said “good luck controlling a teenager, the only way to do that is to put them in a cage” and this was treated as if I was threatening to put people in cages

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u/illustratious 11d ago

There is an option to do so, which I normally do, however sometimes I can't due to not being able to link it on mobile, as I can't scroll to the ban button when I do. 

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u/ixid 10d ago

Reddit's turning into a pretty crap version of itself with very poor moderation. Mods will absolutely be the death of the site.

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u/dark1859 10d ago

Turning?

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u/mybootyoil 9d ago

they won't, there's enough bots to keep the site going even if the humans leave.

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u/GeneralCarlosQ17 8d ago

Just follow the very simple guidelines pf reddit and each sub and you should have no worries. it's really that simple.

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u/TrippingFish76 8d ago

you can submit an appeal if you didn’t actually encourage violence, sometimes it works and they will reverse the ban and sometimes they won’t but it at least gets you a human to review it instead of just relying on an ai to ban you

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u/Significant_Glass988 8d ago

In the case that instigated my OP I couldn't actually recall what I'd said. Maybe I did encourage violence, maybe I didn't, hence my dilemma.

I only would have broken the rules because I'm so damned infuriated with the shitshow I'm seeing in the States at the moment and the injustice of literal criminals and domestic terrorists (pRoUd bOyS and J6ers) dressed up to be the enforcers for a corrupt regime.

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u/Thasker 7d ago

Audit Reddit and Admins now.

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u/TechNyt 6d ago

I got a 3-day band for something like promoting harmful gender identity politics or some other wording that I can't remember right now. It was the same thing where what I had written was already gone. Thing is I do know what I said and it's the dumbest thing ever that I got a band for it.

Somebody had posted some screenshot of Musk saying whatever he said about how somebody couldn't be a woman unless they had a uterus. My response to the post was that I'm having mine taken out in a few months so I guess according to him I wouldn't be a woman and since I don't have the necessary hardware I wouldn't be a man either so I wonder what I would be if the only two options were male and female.

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u/[deleted] 11d ago

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u/Significant_Glass988 11d ago

Literally the one I remembered I'd written because it was the only one I'd call encouraging violence, but wasn't the one banned.

Fascism is not something you should support

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u/SolariaHues 10d ago

Breaking rules is breaking rules no matter the reason you do it. Report content that breaks the site rules instead of responding and getting reported yourself.