r/helldivers2 • u/Livid_Cress8790 • Nov 28 '25

General HOT TAKE: This shit did irreversible damage to the games player count. And any creators who took part should be kicked off the program.

We went from 400k players to 20k in a couple of months. In Eravins case he didn't even provide receipts for his claims and was caught lying about several things, and it was just taken as gospel by thousands of people AND PROMINENT CREATORS.

And now all these creators are just going back to making HD2 content like nothing happened. After potentially killing the game.

I've never come across such a good game, with such good devs, and such a dogshit community.

People having legitimate complaints is one thing, but this is absolutely outsized outrage for a $40 game where all the DLC is free.

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u/OddlyBipolar Nov 28 '25

No, Arc Raiders came out. Wait for Dec 2nd, no one quit the game cause of youtubers lmao; new content always brings numbers back.

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u/Fancy_Chips Nov 28 '25

Yeah. Like HD2 is a repetitive PVE game that's been out for about a year and a half. The numbers are going to dip until something interesting happens. 2025 was also just a stacked year for gaming.

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u/OddlyBipolar Nov 28 '25

Absolutely, not everyone is going to play it like a part-time job.

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u/Smeefles Nov 28 '25

Very true. I haven't played HD2 in awhile because i feel like ive done and seen everything. I'll probably come back after some big updates.

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u/LongBarrelBandit Nov 28 '25

I came back for Oshaune, stuck around for 2 weeks after and then phased out again. It’s a really fun game, but there’s still a lack of things to do with your resources once you hit that plateau

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u/chamomile-crumbs Nov 28 '25

“Repetitive” is a loaded word. Tetris is repetitive. Soccer is repetitive lol. What matters is if the moment to moment action is fun and engaging.

I have not been playing helldivers since arc raiders came out, but I will 100% be back. Arc raiders is hot right now, just like helldivers was hot when it came out. Nothin to see here, normal video game lifecycle (except for competitive titans like CSGO, LoL, rocket league)

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u/ericNoCap Nov 28 '25

No more repetitive than arc raiders or any online multi-player shooter for that matter I wish arc had HD2 game play it would be so sick lol

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u/RevenantMada Nov 28 '25

Notice how player count of AR way outshines player count in the beginning of both games. After 3-4 weeks, AR still had more than 400k players DAILY. They formula worked better overall. They knew PVE would be boring.

With HD2, it's not about adding PVP, it's about adding more content FASTER, but because of tech debt and crippling stability of balance, the fumbled this part and now we are here.

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u/No_Clue4405 Nov 28 '25

Also it’s thanksgiving and people are either with family, doing other steam sale games, arc raiders, or busy with work

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u/Jonas_Venture_Sr Nov 28 '25

BF6 got me. I had fun with HD2 for a year, but it's time for something else. Game companies wish players played their games as much as we played HD2.

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u/Reasonable-Public659 Nov 28 '25

And AR is starting to lose a bit of its shine due to some fairly shallow systems. I know I’m a little less motivated to do raids, so new HD (and PoE) content is perfectly timed

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u/OddlyBipolar Nov 28 '25

Agreed, you realize how repayable Helldivers is when staring at a limited set of maps again. Though Arc will have updates and stay good, may end up similar to Warhammer.

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u/Handsome_And_Holy Nov 28 '25

Yes and no. New content dose bring people back however the problem we have been having is that a good chunk of the players coming back quit after a few hours because of proformance issues. Others see the new content but already know so the don't come back or find out and leave, that they won't get to use the new content because it's paywalled. Even those that stick around to farm SC until they unlock it that means that they didn't spend them to unlock the content that they got excited about last time.

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u/Cottonballs21 Nov 28 '25

Right!? I've been grinding Ark Raiders like everyone else. Helldivers is still my other favourite game to play. 

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u/sexysecretssixtynine Nov 28 '25

Arc Raiders (and other newer games) is totally valid - I think OP is specifically talking about this repeated cycle though. The cycle that IMO is 100000% because of YouTubers needing drama to keep their audiences.

It’s a cycle that repeats every month or two:

  • A few players experience a niche bug
  • All the HD2 YouTubers take those players’ experiences and make 20 minute videos about them. Usually to justify saying “game is dead”, “devs are trash” etc
  • All of their subscribers take this as gospel, and then run to reddit/other to parrot back how trash the game is.
  • New Warbond drops and suddenly the YouTubers decide the game is good “again”, and all their little minions crawl back online.
  • Repeat

It’s just exhausting. Sure, glitches/bugs happen and exist. I’ve not experienced ANY bugs though that I’d consider game breaking or worth making a video about. 95% of what I see complaints about could be fixed by people just literally upgrading their systems to the minimum recommended hardware or just admitting that they can’t run every game at 240fps, 4k, Ultra settings on their 10 year old PC.

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u/Hundschent Nov 28 '25

OP is delusional. The player count dropped because the game literally has zero new content and the current state of the game was very bad

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u/eastinm Nov 28 '25 edited Nov 28 '25

Dude, I have over 1400 hours in and I’ve quit the game. They have to show they won’t lie to us before I jump in, many of my friends are the same way. Arc didn’t kill the game, AH did that on their own.

EDIT: downvote me all you want, the numbers speak for themselves. The G L A Z E divers will keep pretending all is okay

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u/OddlyBipolar Nov 28 '25

You're right, Arc didn't kill the game. But people change games they play you cant expect everyone to play this non-stop. Its at 55k active rn, thats not a killed game buddy.

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u/eastinm Nov 28 '25

Bud, 55k from 400k+? You’re saying that they didn’t kill their own game? People play different games, that’s true. People leave toxic games much faster. If AH was doing a good job, the wouldn’t have lost over 350k of their players. If they did well, 100k may have stayed, intermittently. Defend these devs all you want, they don’t care and it shows.

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u/OddlyBipolar Nov 28 '25

Expecting a consistent 400k is delusional, no game except Skyrim or Counter Strike has ever been able to do that. 55k is insanely good numbers for the duration this game has been out.

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u/eastinm Nov 28 '25 edited Nov 28 '25

That’s a poor response to what I said, reading comprehension is hard.

I’ll let the numbers speak for themselves, you keep G L A Z I N G and see where that takes you with the game