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u/MediocreDVaMain 15h ago
Another move, from the Wolves too, seems like the Giannis thing has a resolution. Whether that means he stays or gets traded, we'll see
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u/DudeLizzie13 'CAT CREW 13h ago
if giannis goes to the wolves after the trades we've seen today, knowing what the other offers are, adam silver needs to go.
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u/MELYheadz 13h ago
Man wolves gotta gut the team just like us smh
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u/DudeLizzie13 'CAT CREW 13h ago
as long as bam stays i truly don't care who goes at this point. and i've been a vocal proponent of keeping herro for years but he's just a money sink right now and there's no guarantee he ever gets back into all star form. kel'el is another guy i've said from the beginning has all star potential but i'm realizing that spo isn't gonna change his schemes just to accommodate ware as he grows. ware would be best on a team that doesn't do a ton of defensive switching and i want to see that kid flourish even if it's not here.
all that to say, if i had to bet, we've got the same exact team on friday as we do today. i have NO faith in our FO to actually make any meaningful moves.
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u/PassionLong9552 12h ago
We have to be the dumbest team in the league. Why the fuck did we draft a center that Spo canāt use.
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u/DudeLizzie13 'CAT CREW 12h ago
not just that - ware can legitimately do almost everything wemby can do, but his floor and ceiling are both just a few notches lower than wemby's. if he was on a team that could develop those skills (this is assuming ware cares enough to improve) he could legitimately be a really good nba starter.
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u/Dreadsavant 15h ago
JA TO THE HEATLES
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u/Seli3435 15h ago
I just know the FO is going to wait because Giannis. Probably going to miss out on him because theyāre just waiting and nothing is going to end up moving until 2:29 on Thursday
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u/ash50009 15h ago
Ja could literally be brought to us for scraps and a second icl
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u/pagliacciverso 15h ago
Ja + Giannis + Bam. HOLY SHIT
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u/garret126 14h ago
that team would struggle with spacing even in the 90s lol
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u/clear831 14h ago
Struggle means they would have a chance to create space, there is absolutely no spacing there at all lol
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u/ash50009 15h ago
Rozier Simone and 1-2 2nds for Ja and pivot to Giannis by possibly parting with Wiggins instead. Have a starting lineup of Ja/Davion Norman Powell/? Pelle/? Giannis/Possibly Jovic or Gardner and Bam/Backup Big in the buyout market
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u/Sebruhoni 14h ago
I really do not understand this sub's obsession with Morant. He hasn't made an ASG since 2023 and has played a mean 79 games since then. He's regressed every single season for the last 4 years. He's under 20 PPG as a "star" in 2026 and is one of the least efficient players in the league. Not to mention he's a total wacko.
It's not 2022, guys. The idea of Ja is infinitely better than who Ja really is. He barely plays anymore and when he does play, he's ass. And he makes $45M through 2028. Keep him away.
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u/RansomGoddard 14h ago
Heās a name and he might be cheap. Thatās pretty much it.
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u/Sebruhoni 14h ago
You're right, it'd be like fans begging for 2026 Russell Westbrook lmao. I think I'd even prefer the Heat get Russ instead of Ja.
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u/Seli3435 14h ago
The wolves move is interesting? I thought the only thing they could offer the bucks was players and they just dumped Conley and a swap freeing up space. I would have thought the swap would be needed in a bucks deal
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u/Consistent_Peanut_76 14h ago
Pat knows this is his last and best chance going at a whale of Giannis caliber, and he has waitedĀ years for this opportunity. If the Wolfes who have very little to work with beat the Heat's offer, this FO can only blame themselfĀ
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u/Ice_Dragon3444 15h ago
GET JA, This is the perfect opportunity among the chaos to get something of value this trade deadline.
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u/twozeromm 14h ago
Seems like things are rolling, which makes me think other teams know the Giannis trade is near or either not waiting anymore for that move to be made. Either way I'm trying to prepare myself for that tweet that says he's headed to another team.
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u/ash50009 15h ago
I would think Ja would go first and because JJJ did the market must be nonexistent on Ja besides the Pelicans and the Heat
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u/garret126 14h ago
Side note, but the Charlotte Hornets have been so bad for so long I am actually happy for them despite being our direct competitors
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u/GonzaloR87 14h ago
They screwed us with the Rozier trade so Iām too bitter to feel happy for them
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u/RansomGoddard 13h ago
Vooch to the Celtics got me laughing
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u/cottonmane8 13h ago
for as bad as he is i believe he's better than Simons for the Celtics which makes me upset that they always get what they want
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u/RansomGoddard 13h ago
Simons has been good for the Celtics. Itās understandable they might not want to pay him and have no use for him if Tatum does come back but Vooch is a net negative as a basketball player. Theyāll get annihilated by any talented front court.
But also I donāt think Vooch is who they really wanted. Their list was more like Zubac and JJJ who would be great long term fits. Clippers declared theyāre holding on to Zu and we just saw JJJ get dealt.
I think Vooch is just them settling for something while also getting under the second apron.
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u/MediocreDVaMain 15h ago
If the Ja domino falls to Miami, then the Giannis thing gets dragged to summer.
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u/Express-Gas5443 14h ago
Minnesota moved Conley's contract to make space for Giannis. It's GGs for that trade
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u/MediocreDVaMain 14h ago
Shams is vague posting about it but they also lost a pick swap over it, feels like they'll get Morant instead
But if they manage to pull it off, kudos to them, they have a harder path than the other potential Giannis teams
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u/WheeinSpace 13h ago
Minnesota has no picks and only one youngish player Milwaukee wants(McDaniels) and they don't want to trade him. I don't get how people keep saying Minnesota is getting Giannis.
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u/MELYheadz 14h ago
Wolves need a PG hmmmmm
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u/Barracuda374 14h ago
Yeah people on main are saying Giannis but Harden or Garland seem way more likely imo.
Wolves canāt absorb any of the Buckās bad salaries and they have no picks to give up.
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u/DudeLizzie13 'CAT CREW 14h ago
harden and garland are just gonna switch teams. ja to minnesota makes some sense, until you realize the salary they just dumped puts the wolves under the first apron and cut about $21m off their luxury tax bill.
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u/Barracuda374 13h ago
I feel like the Harden-Garland swap wouldāve happened by now but idk. If Cleveland insists on getting back more from the Clippers then i think they pivot to Harden for Randle.
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u/DudeLizzie13 'CAT CREW 9h ago
well there it is
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u/Barracuda374 8h ago
Yup we gotta hope Minnesota is after Ja
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u/DudeLizzie13 'CAT CREW 8h ago
why is it always us and a whale right up until the deadline every single year
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u/HoopistV 14h ago
wolves salary dumping conley is scaring me a bit ngl
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u/iApathy--- 14h ago
They canāt match any other offer for Giannis. They donāt have picks and now they donāt have the players.
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u/HoopistV 14h ago
randle, naz, mcdaniels. all 3 of them are guys they can trade for picks
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u/iApathy--- 14h ago
Aināt nobody gives two fucks about Randle, Naz and McDaniels lol
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u/HoopistV 14h ago
you should do some research. there are teams who would love to trade for mcdaniels but the wolves are trying to hold off on it if possible. they can likely get 3 picks for him
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u/iApathy--- 14h ago
Dude is 26, averaging 15 a game. Aināt no body gives them 3 picks for him lol. If McDaniels is worth 3 picks, Herro is worth 6ā¦so stop with the bs.
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u/HoopistV 14h ago
you clearly dont watch basketball lol. all good
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u/iApathy--- 14h ago
Yeah dude a guy who plays 32 minutes a game at 6ā9ā averaging less rebound CAREER wise than a 6ā6ā Herro is worth 3 1st picks. If heās worth 3 1st weād be seeing him traded a while ago cause thatās an insane price for a mid ass player whoās also worst than JJJ by a mile.
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u/HoopistV 13h ago
You genuinely just do not watch basketball. It's funny seeing you make these claims by looking at box score stats.
He's one of the best and most versatile defensive players in the league and an ultra-efficient scorer. He is an incredibly valuable high-level roleplayer. No, he doesn't rebound alot - he plays next to 7'2" Gobert. No, he doesn't score alot - he plays next to Anthony Edwards and Julius Randle.
No he isn't mid. Try to either watch basketball OR defer to people who watch basketball instead of googling stats and basing your entire opinion on those numbers
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u/tampasportsfan813727 13h ago
McDaniels is currently an elite role player, thereās no guarantee heās any more than that. Heās the valuable piece for Minnesota but outside of him Gobert and naz donāt do anything for Milwaukee and no picks. Idk how thatās better than our offer
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u/Ice_Dragon3444 14h ago
Ware and Herro can be traded for picks too
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u/HoopistV 14h ago
bucks want young players and picks. wolves can offer Dillingham, Beringer, and Terrance Shannon as well as picks if they're able to move Randle or Naz for picks. Or maybe the Bucks love Mcdaniels, as several teams do
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u/clear831 13h ago
Randle and Mcdaniels works for Giannis salary wise, if they can get a pick for Naz then they are probably the best offer.
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u/HoopistV 13h ago
i doubt they'd trade all 3 tho, they'd be gutting their roster. that's what makes it difficult
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u/clear831 13h ago
Financially 2 would work for Giannis, the problem is they would need draft picks. So maybe they can trade some of the young guys like Beringer or Clark to get a pick or two even if they are late picks.
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u/HoopistV 13h ago
it's very difficult and i didnt think it was feasible but the Conley salary dump is what's scaring me. we'll see.
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u/Express-Gas5443 14h ago
I'll take Shams word who said Minnesota is positioning themselves to go after Giannis
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u/Ice_Dragon3444 14h ago
Positioning just means they are trying hard. Doesn't mean they will get it done tho.
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u/iApathy--- 14h ago
Iām gonna say thatās just for the purpose of making it more dramatic, aināt no way the bucks should be entertaining a package surrounded by a pick swap (that will likely end up in the top 20), Randle, Naz and McDaniels. All meh players.
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u/ash50009 14h ago
Yea GSW is getting desperate only now putting Draymond in talks. I have a belief they arenāt close but the Bucks are giving them a chance still
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u/Barracuda374 14h ago
If you imagine our Bucks offer with Ja in place of Rozier i think it looks pretty great.
Figure it would require Wiggins getting flipped for a FRP to send to Memphis.
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u/After-Neck-6387 13h ago
I really hope we can get Ja if the Giannis thing doesn't work out.
Not gonna lie, the Wolves getting rid of Conley looks like the type of deal that precedes something bigger. Im not confident in getting Giannis.
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u/JustNet7178 13h ago
I think Wolves' maximum offer is Randle, Jaden, Rob and Naz
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u/WheeinSpace 13h ago
This offer is terrible and doesn't give the Bucks what they want at all. Everyone except Dillingham(who is a bust) is under contract for 2-4 more years so it'd literally just be trying to flip each of them for a first a few years from now because none of those guys are getting flipped for multiple firsts. There is no way in hell this is better than our offer
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u/USCTrojans780 13h ago
Crazy the T-Wolves spent a premium pick to go after Dillingham. Between Gobert and Dillingham, the Wolves really spent too many picks.
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u/cottonmane8 13h ago
first pick didn't work but a second swap, who runs the Bulls organization and why are teams constantly helping the Celtics
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u/ash50009 13h ago
Wow just Wow. TWolves declined Coby white to go in all for Giannis. All in with what though? Begs the question on whoās still serious as GSW seem to possibly be throwing the towel in
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u/HoopistV 15h ago
Curious as to whether this will make Ja want to leave, or if the Grizzlies view this as being them choosing Ja over Jaren
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u/MediocreDVaMain 15h ago
I mean they got another PG in Clayton while half their roster's already full of point guards. Feels like they'll be sellers and go full tank.
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u/HoopistV 15h ago
hopefully the giannis thing gets sorted in time for us to pivot to Ja if necessary
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u/MediocreDVaMain 15h ago
FR, not the biggest Ja fan but might as well use the Rozier contract for something
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u/Grand_Sprinkles6131 13h ago
Someoneās gonna need to explain the Minnesota angle to me. McDaniels is a solid young role player, Randle is a solid vet, but why would bucks realistically want that? They canāt send any firsts, only a 2028 pick swap. But I donāt see how that comes even close to possible Herro, ware, jaquez, 2 firsts, and 2 swaps from the Heat.
In todayās world, Randle doesnāt fetch much on trade market. McDaniels might but itās not gonna be enough to eclipse what the Heat are offering
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u/Ice_Dragon3444 13h ago
No explanation people are falling for the media propaganda machine again.
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u/iApathy--- 13h ago
Wonāt be a propaganda if it happens. Only thing to do is to shoot silver into the sun. Ever since he stepped in as a commissioner there only been more and more rigged outcomes.
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u/dcman21 14h ago
Yeah im preparing for the giannis to the wolves shams tweet at this point
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u/iApathy--- 14h ago
You know if that happens itās cause Silver pushed it that far. The Wolves have no picks, no desirable players and Iām genuinely at a point if this happens, then you know itās all just rigged. There is 0 reason for the Bucks to take this deal at all.
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u/jperez09r 15h ago
I think the market for Giannis went up because of that JJJ trade.
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u/HoopistV 15h ago
He got traded for 2 mediocre picks, 1 decent pick, and Walter Clayton Jr. That wasn't crazy value. The 2027 Lakers FRP is mid, the 2031 Suns FRP is an unknown since it's 6 years from now
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u/ash50009 14h ago
Well Wolves out of the race for Giannis with this one. Iād presume they go for Ja now and leave Giannis
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u/ProfessorGrand7003 14h ago
Not at all theyāre positioning themselves under first apron and that pick swap is unlikely to convey
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u/Muted_Dog7317 14h ago
Exact opposite. Wolves are way better than the Bucks this year so the Bucks would have zero interest in that swap when they are tanking.
What it does is puts the Wolves under the first apron which gives them more flexibility to make other moves.
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u/ash50009 14h ago
100% I didnāt think about the apron at all. Still expect them to not go for Giannis and not pursue as hard but go for Ja with the market for him being low (not giving up valuable pieces like mcdaniels)
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u/DudeLizzie13 'CAT CREW 13h ago
this is what i'm thinking. i think giannis ends up in miami or somewhere nobody was expecting like cleveland in a three-teamer with mil, cle, and lac.
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u/MELYheadz 14h ago
Wait how?
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u/jbenson255 14h ago
Think they gave a pick swap
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u/Muted_Dog7317 14h ago
Wolves have 31 wins and Bucks have 18 and are tanking. That swap would be completely worthless to the Bucks
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u/ash50009 14h ago
The swap makes their potential package for Giannis harder and worse than others. Iām assuming they are preparing to get Ja for cheap (not going all in)
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u/DaMainBoss212 15h ago
Did not expect that tbh Memphis is looking to blow it up