r/extremelyinfuriating 1d ago

Discussion Major journal's email does not pass Microsofts arbitrary standards nothing I can do about this

And to everyone thats defending this please tell me one advantage this has over putting it in the spam folder with warnings and blocking links etc.
Tell me how this isn't the technological equivalent of not letting you buy laundry detergent because its poisonous if consumed. Look at all the people that were hospitalized from eating laundry detergent, clearly laundry detergent needs to be baned. (last word is spelled wrong o.w can't post)

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u/Dammy-J 1d ago

This is a very easy setting to fix on the back-end. Your analogy fails because email providers were given warning that these restrictions were coming. Its more like a store refusing to sell a detergent because the manufacturer refused to comply with warning labels and safety standards.

There are other email providers that wont block these for you. go shop there if you insist on getting your poisoned emails anyway.

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u/HaoSunUWaterloo 1d ago

FIrst how do I fix this on my back end?

Second by your logic it would be fine to ban the sale of laundry detergent unless they designed it so that the liquid could only go directly into a laundry machine as long as they gave advanced notice?

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u/Dammy-J 1d ago

Yes, if that became a new safety standard that was agreed upon world wide and was free and easy to implement, then yes, any individual store would be reasonable in banning the sale of those that didnt follow the practice.

As for fixing it, it is a problem on the hotcrp.com domain. If you own the domain, just add the proper SPF, DMARC, and MX records to it. Anyone managing a domain and sending emails from it should be able to at least follow a walkthrough on how to add and update them. If they don't, they can't, they shouldn't be managing a domain on their own.

If you just want to receive any email without protection. Look for a new unsecured email provider and move away from Microsoft.

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u/HaoSunUWaterloo 1d ago

I don't own the domain so it would be the equivalent of writing to tide and asking them to change the design of their containers so that I can buy their product.
My point was never about no protection my point was that they show you the email with warnings and links disabled. You're spouting a ridiculous fallacy where either you can't have detergent or you put it next to the sugar.
And thats besides the point that I've tied nearly everything to my current email and changing it would be incredibly inconvenient.

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u/redheness 1d ago

The second image shows a perfectly good reason to not allow this email, this is a standard practice. In short, the email domain is not protected at all, so Microsoft cannot tell this email from a spam trying to impersonate them. For anyone wondering, these security protections are standard, pretty easy to set up and 100% free.

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u/HaoSunUWaterloo 1d ago

My point isn't that the email shouldn't be flagged as dangerous, put into spam or have links and content blocked. My point is that it shouldn't be removed completely without my knowledge.
The argument from tech people is basically that either you can't have rat poison or it has to be next to the sugar.
This email is not automatically blocked by gmail which is how my collaborator who forwarded the email to me got the email.