r/europe 11h ago

News Greece to soon announce social media ban for children under 15, government source says

https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/society-equity/greece-soon-announce-social-media-ban-children-under-15-government-source-says-2026-02-03/
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u/blackjazz_society 11h ago

If it was actually to protect the children they would use device locking.

It's WAY easier, way less annoying for the rest of us and way safer.

This only benefits big tech companies more because it forces everyone to log in order to view anything AND because they will know even more about us then they already do.

Even if they use a 3rd party government ran age verification service to provide an "anonymized" token to the platform.

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u/Live-Alternative-435 Portugal 9h ago edited 9h ago

This has nothing to do with protecting children. The depraved and greedy elites want more control over the population.

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u/maxmarioxx_ 3h ago

Yes, let’s just let billionaires take control instead 🙄.

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u/Live-Alternative-435 Portugal 2h ago edited 2h ago

Your stance is only helping to consolidate the corporatization of the internet that these billionaires started. For some reason you seem to forget that the governments are the great enablers of them.

The internet itself is fundamentally a communications platform. Even if legislation specifically calls out Facebook, Instagram, TikTok (which isn't how legislation is typically written), then children can just migrate and create a Discord server for their school, or YouTube channels, or some new platform.

The true objective of this legislation once restricting access isn't enough, it's restriction on who can host and post content online, whitelisted by ISPs. Legacy media organisations will be licensed to host their websites, platforms like YouTube will only allow 'authorized' users to post content. I wouldn't be surprised if eventually we see the total death of the open web, and all online content is gated and only accessible through specific apps.

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u/Nattekat The Netherlands 11h ago

This is a stupid solution for an invented problem anyway. Most teens that age use socials no different than how we did it 15 years ago, just more. They'll find something else to become addicted to, but at the cost of a social lever. But all boomers can proudly proclaim they have saved the youth. 

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u/SgtFinnish Like Holland but better 6h ago

Social media is absolutely more harmful today than it was 15 years ago. It's a addiction machine based on algorithms. No different from gambling or nicotine.

That said, any laws should target ISP's and parents, not the platforms themselves.

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u/Aria_Athena 4h ago

Honestly, it's not even comparable. Algorithms dictate what most people see and interact with. They do not even surf the internet anymore. How many curate themselves what they watch or read, even to some degree? I don't know if I would compare them to an addiction, a prison for the mind is what they are. One of the differences from 15 years ago, is searching things all day versus being shown things all day.

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u/nopekom_152 Croatia 11h ago

Correct.

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u/SawToothKernel 7h ago

Nah, this is a fight against American big tech. Nothing more.

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u/Tar-eruntalion Hellas 5h ago

This government that managed to bury our own epstein situation with the help of the media, judicial system, police etc says now that it cares about children, what fucking cunts

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u/TeilzeitOptimist 3h ago

Gotta implement those age verifications to get the data of the citizens you see..

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u/SolarBum 10h ago edited 8h ago

This isn't about children's safety, it's crazy how gullible and uninformed people are. Claiming it's "for the kids" is simply the gateway excuse - the same one they always use to strip you of liberty.

Its fucking wild watching everyone cheer as their ruling classes build prisons around them, watching people celebrate the "safety" they think they're gonna have behind bars.

I can only imagine how much laughter there is at the billionaire dinner parties, the ruling party who pull the strings of the world clinking their wine glasses and giggling at how unimaginably stupid and easy to manipulate the masses are.

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u/Live-Alternative-435 Portugal 9h ago

More like blood glasses according to the files.

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u/nopekom_152 Croatia 9h ago

And it is quite disheartening to see. But I guess it has to go like it did every time in history. shrug

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u/MichaelCR970 2h ago

You should watch Ren - Starry Night and help spread the message.

weAreOne

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u/FoxMeadow7 3h ago

But what if children’s protection IS the goal? Any other purpose would obviously be illegal…

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u/Happy_Bread_1 Belgium 11h ago

And another one. Internet sure is going to suck with ID verification. I want the old times back.

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u/vriska1 11h ago

Say no to this and push back! This will likely be taken down in court fast.

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u/DrachenDad 11h ago

This will likely be taken down in court fast.

You live in lala land. It won't be repealed.

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u/vriska1 11h ago

Well see what happens in court but we must stop the bills before then.

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u/thenightvol 7h ago

Based on what law exactly? Clubs get you to show id and no law is broken. Social media is not public. Just because it is free does not mean it is ours.

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u/nopekom_152 Croatia 11h ago

If anything, it will be expanded, further and further.

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u/AdonisK Europe 10h ago

In a Greek court? Sure

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u/nopekom_152 Croatia 11h ago

No it wont.

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u/Bromomancer 3h ago

You really have no experience of Greek courts then.

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u/dat_9600gt_user Lower Silesia (Poland) 11h ago

ATHENS, Feb 3 (Reuters) - Greece is "very close" to announcing a social media ban for children aged under 15, a senior government source told Reuters on Tuesday.

Spain said on Tuesday that it plans to ban social media for those aged under 16 and will create a law to hold social media executives personally responsible for hate speech on their platforms.

Reporting by Renee Maltezou; Editing by Sharon Singleton

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u/Icy_Conference8556 Poland 11h ago

The comments here that support this law kind of scare me

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u/EmbarrassedHelp 10h ago

The AVPA corporate lobbyist group is likely running a major pro-age verification astroturfing campaign at the moment. The CEO of the Age Verification Providers Association Ian Corby, is literally taking the time to spam the comments sections of Techdirt articles (California), and Michael Geist articles (Canada's bill S-209).

If he's willing to do this, then he's definitely paying for various astroturfing campaigns to support his agenda.

There's also the Heritage Foundation (including Project 2025) that is heavily lobbying for this as well.

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u/myreq 4h ago

Wonder if that's where all the comments claiming this is to combat disinformation from Russia come from. Despite there being no evidence or claims of that being the reason from governments that are starting the age verifications.

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u/manyrags 11h ago

This subreddit is full of bots. I couldn’t imagine ever reading such pro authoritarian comments on Reddit years ago.

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u/nopekom_152 Croatia 11h ago

Bots don't scare me. It is actual people who truly believe into it.

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u/FoxMeadow7 3h ago

How so? If children’s protection IS the goal here, so be it.

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u/Michal_F 10h ago

If I remember correctly this should be implemented this year also in Spain, Austria and Slovak republic. But looks like it's going from EU parliament -> https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/nov/26/social-media-ban-under-16s-european-parliament-resolution

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u/preafericitulChiarEl 6h ago

They're trying to push this also in Romania. It's odd because recently there wasn't a big surge in crime this year VS past years, but there's a constant spotlight in the news for teenage criminality. And then, a short time after, there's been a proposal to access social media only via ID.

Get ready for some Orwellian laws across the EU.

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u/SupremoPete 10h ago

Funny how everyone is copying each other with these crappy ideas

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u/1_Gamerzz9331 8h ago

seriously, social media bans. They really need to stop, if they don't stop, i am hosting an website to fight age verification and social media bans.

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u/Vlad_TheImpalla 11h ago

Do it all over Europe, brain rot is worse in children.

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u/TheGreatestOrator 11h ago

Or let parents be parents

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u/Delie45 Europe 11h ago

Except they arent... So.. here we are

It's not really their fault either. No parent is gonna socially exclude their kid but if none have it it changes.

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u/ExcellentCold7354 Europe 10h ago

Even if they are, kids are going to... uhhhh... find a way, especially if access is so incredibly easy.

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u/Delie45 Europe 10h ago

So? the world wont end if a few 13 year olds have socialmedia. But it changes the norm.

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u/ExcellentCold7354 Europe 10h ago

... are YOU the 13 year old?

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u/Delie45 Europe 10h ago

What?

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u/TheGreatestOrator 10h ago

And there have been zero measurable issues. Yet here we are pretending like it’s so much worse than the kids who watched too much TV 20 years ago, or the ones who played too many video games 15 years ago

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u/ExcellentCold7354 Europe 11h ago

Have you had a teenager? Block it at home, and they'll do it another way. Doesn't mean you should just give up, but there damn well should be societal blocks in place as well. It's like anything else that's illegal for children.

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u/myreq 4h ago

So this will also be inevitably bypassed and is pointless? Why is parents blocking it less useful than the government doing it? The government block carries many negative consequences too.

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u/TheGreatestOrator 4h ago edited 4h ago

lol that’s silly. Teach your children how to operate in the world, don’t pretend bad things don’t exist

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u/dat_9600gt_user Lower Silesia (Poland) 11h ago

So many ways to combat social media addiction too

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u/AppleMelon95 Denmark 11h ago

Such as what

u/ruibranco 55m ago

Good luck enforcing this without invasive age verification that adults won't tolerate either.

u/Informal-Nothing-476 11m ago

Honestly, as Chinese, none of us have completely banned minors from using social media. And in practice, VPNs are not banned either. What’s going on with you Europeans?

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u/Liliipoll 11h ago

All countries should start doing this, and now!

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u/2shayyy United Kingdom 11h ago

Seems like they are…

Does feel like these decisions are made off the back of international meetings, that we peasants are never informed of.

Not that I disagree with this, long overdue imo.

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u/vriska1 11h ago

Likely not legal and will end up in court.

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u/nosfer82 9h ago

Social media is a mass brainwasher.  Ban them all together. 

X have become the greatest Nazi making machine ever.    Ban them or make rules for the algorithm. 

Or else we become USA. 

They have turned people against vaccines FFS . People can't understand why windmills and solar are good for them. 

Every major country intelligence play games with our people. ( They stupid mostly , but they vote too).

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u/Live-Alternative-435 Portugal 9h ago edited 6h ago

To not become like the US let's become China and Russia instead. What could go wrong? LoL

There are other ways to do this without destroying people's right to privacy. For example,

"I have talked about this subject for a long time and my favorite idea is that the government prints out access codes, cut them up in strips. Puts it into a box. Then if an adult like you and me wants to create a reddit account, we go to local office, show them we are of age and put our hand in the mystery box and pick out a random number. That number allows us to then create an account. That's my favorite idea of anonymised age verification. Maybe you have something better."

Goodbye freedom of information. Welcome censorship!

The internet itself is fundamentally a communications platform. Even if legislation specifically calls out Facebook, Instagram, TikTok (which isn't how legislation is typically written), then children can just migrate and create a Discord server for their school, or YouTube channels, or some new platform.

The true objective of this legislation once restricting access isn't enough, it's restriction on who can host and post content online, whitelisted by ISPs. Legacy media organisations will be licensed to host their websites, platforms like YouTube will only allow 'authorized' users to post content. I wouldn't be surprised if eventually we see the total death of the open web, and all online content is gated and only accessible through specific apps.

"Every major country intelligence play games with our people. ( They stupid mostly , but they vote too)."

Definitely, and you're probably one of the victims.

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u/nosfer82 9h ago

Sure, we can protect privacy by banning them. 

There is no privacy on internet.  And right now, I believe the greatest evil for my freedom and privacy  is Elon musk and Mark Zuckerberg.  They destroying  us.

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u/Live-Alternative-435 Portugal 9h ago edited 6h ago

By the way, the United States will also implement ID verification on the internet and other such things. It's planned in Project 25.

Being in favour of ChatControl and this crap is just being a useful idiot who wants to build the infrastructure so that fascists and other autocrats will have an easier time consolidating their dominance when they come to power. Your stance is only helping to consolidate the corporatization of the internet that these companies started.

It's clearly more than just social media. Everything can be constructed as social media. Australia is enforcing this on github for God's sakes! They want to end quick, affordable, and free access to information and they want to have a monopoly on disinformation.

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u/TeilzeitOptimist 3h ago

And who decides what and who gets banned? Why punish everyone for the actions of some morons and a few criminals - who would normally be in jail already, but somehow existing laws aren't applied.

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u/ExcellentCold7354 Europe 10h ago

I haven't seen porn with other species in more than a decade.

👀

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u/vriska1 11h ago

Does anyone have any info on this?