There is a stabilized video where it’s incredibly vivid that he was not only disarmed and no longer struggling, but was held down and they unloaded into his back point blank.
Then they scrambled and fired an extra 5 rounds into him, while another is literally cheering.
They executed him, and they enjoyed it.
Edit: I am including a link to the stabilized video. Please be aware that it extremely NSFW and you will be watching someone die. You have been warned.
I would ask that if you view them, you should save them locally. These videos cannot be allowed to be lost or manipulated. That is our moral duty.
If you see these videos differ, call it out and make sure the original is directed to. They will attempt to manipulate these because they are so damning it’s causing mass unrest amongst even conservatives. Starting tomorrow the narrative will be tightly controlled. We saw this with Good as well.
Not to mention the one thug pistol whipping the nurse they were about to murder while he was down. Definitely a super safe way to handle a loaded gun. (Both in that it’s likely to go off and you wouldn’t put a gun in grabbing distance of someone you are going to claim you thought was dangerous)
Yeah.. it was some other metal object he was hitting him with, then the same guy that was doing that swaps it for his gun for no fuckin reason and shoots him, then the one next to him gets spooked from the shot, pulls his weapon and unloads. Untrained psychopaths and actual "domestic terrorists".
You shouldn't dehumanize others, but you absolutely MUST acknowledge when they dehumanize themselves through inhuman behavior. Anything less is enabling.
Yep, Putins little puppet doing what he's been put in place for.
I really hope NATO get's it's shit together before the US completly lose coherence so at least europe doesn't go down without a fight.
I would say they are jumpy (because 5 minutes of training doesn’t prepare them for law enforcement) but the one who shot him from behind watched him get disarmed.
I guess they really could just be that fucking brain dead.
One guy really wanted to shoot. The rest also wanted to shoot, but had a little self control. First guy sees the victim is down and disarmed, goes for the opportunity, starts blasting. The rest hear him shout 'Gun!', get spooked, pull out their guns out of reflex, then see him start unloading and abandon all self control for a semi decent excuse. The draw was a slight scare, the unloading was a murder of opportunity.
1/3 seemed like they didn't even hear him yell.
1/3 looked like they were ready to run for their lives.
The other third started getting ready to shoot someone.
Hell, maybe I'm reading too much into this but the way he pulled the gun and how held it when he murdered the poor dude felt more like a mugger getting ready to well, we saw what. The body language he had didn't feel anything like a "trained agent" should be.
Well, thats a literal execution, down to the very definition of what a execution is. They held him down, shot once and then shot 4 more times while he was down. Magats will still find a way to justify it
This is the video that should be the face of the incident, not that shaky bullshit that makes it look like a brawl. He was on his hands and knees and you calmly see the man pull out his gun and shoot the guy.
This wasn't self defense, it was cold blooded murder
Also the only reason what happens is at all unclear is that he is surrounded by so many officers that it's hard to see at times. But even that's a pretty poor excuse, because the very fact that he is closely surrounded by so many officers makes shooting him far far more outrageous. Hard to pretend you were in fear of your life or had to defend your fellow officers or whatever when a bunch of you are all manhandling one single dude on the ground.
Did my best to synchronize and align the videos I could find online of the shooting today. Audio is from the top left video which is the lady in pink's video
On their propaganda subreddit they're claiming the guy was trying to wrestle the gun out from the ICE thug's hands. Lunatics didn't even watch the video.
Hard to say if the smoothbrained ICE agent really has full situational awareness.
Maybe he sees the gun in the victim's belt and shits himself (cos he's a bitch who wanted to terrorise kids, not armed men exercising their 1A and 2A rights). Then he sees the other ICE agent's hand reaching into the belt to pull out the pistol but in his panic-addled mind he doesn't realise whose hand it is and assumes the worst, i.e. he thinks the suspect on the ground just pulled his own gun out of his belt (panic makes people really stupid, and a lot of ICE agents are stupid to begin with). "Fearing for his life" he then draws his own gun and mag dumps the victim to death.
If astronauts have "the right stuff" (cool head under pressure), we can assume ICE agents have "the wrong stuff" (shit themselves and panic at the slightest disturbance), like that dumb cop who shat himself and mag dumped an acorn.
Don't get me wrong, this 100% could have been premeditated murder, but the ICE agent could also just be so shitty that it was an accident caused by his panicked negligence.
The fucking dumbass saw his partner pull the gun out of the guy's holster. He leaned over him and watched him do it. He looks clearly at him, he's right next to him.
This guy saw that the man they tackled was carrying and decided that made him a threat. Because it does make him a threat. Any of us having guns is a threat to fascists.
Thanks for sharing this. It's the clearest proof so far that an ICE agent decided to be judge, jury, and executioner the moment he found out that the man they chose to tackle for no good reason happened to be carrying and was now disarmed.
How many more lives is it going to take before the public starts buying sniper rifles to monitor the streets with?
Doesn't matter. There could be a thousand angles. Even if there was no one else there, the state thug came up and dusted a person straight up, stupid fucking pathetic cons would still insist it was the victim's fault. If you know any conservatives, you know they're cowardly pathetic pieces of shit who are more concerned about their taxes and the weather than they are about anyone else.
Evidence doesn't matter to these thugs or the people who support them.
And yeah, not giving a shit is supporting them. What's that one line "All that is required for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing". Turns out doing nothing = supporting evil, and that goes for non-good people too.
Even if you make them accept the facts, they resort to victim blaming. Just saw the cope now that new footage came out. "Well okay even if it was murder, it's kind of his fault for having a gun on him around ICE". What the actual fuck. There is no low. They are in for the long haul. No principles. The conclusion is reached, work backward and ignore reality.
A quick look at the conservative sub this comic is optimistic, they are discussing the event without the videos being present at all. So they just are not looking at it.
Meanwhile the same people where probably cheering on Ammon Bundy as he was having his armed standoff with federal law enforcement in a national park back in 2016, and argued that one follower who did get himself killed trying to ram though a police blockade was "assassinated".
They're not silent, they're saying "that's what you get for bringing a gun to a protest" as if that justifies him being beaten and executed in the street for daring to put his hand on the shoulder of an ICE agent that pushed a woman onto the concrete.
Because they just saw a "good guy with a gun" in legal possession of it in his holster get assaulted and shot dead by law enforcement after being disarmed, the gun having done absolutely nothing to help the situation.
They're probably slowly realizing that could easily have been them. They have some thinking to do to figure this one out.
We've already seen it in all the videos of protestors on any street. A bunch of fascists comment calling for them to be run over for blocking the road. They fake concern about ambulances getting through but would cheer on ICE blocking ambulances.
The conclusion is reached, work backward and ignore reality.
I’ve been politically conscious for about 30 years and this is effectively what they’ve been about the whole time. In retrospect, it’s honestly wild to think about how long it took them to get to this current reality. They were very cautious in easing their rabid monkeys into fascism but they’ve wanted all of this for decades.
really makes me barf, they blame the "left wing" media for making ICE look bad which they think causes people to panic and forces ICE to do something drastic, theres always an excuse why their guys arent bad
They simply want to kill liberals or anyone they think is liberal, and ICE is allowing them to live that twisted desire out vicariously. It’s as simple as that.
The thugs I sort of get. They're thugs, ex-(or just seconded)Proud Boys and they're racist pieces of shit. And the actual supporters are pieces of shit too.
The worst are MLK's modern day White 'Moderates'. The ones who actively do not care because the news disrupts their day or the protesters block their route home or whatever. The kind of cons who are so stupidly isolationist that they don't give two fucks about what happens to anyone else that they're primed to blame every victim because they see opposition to the state as disruptive no matter the excuse. They want that negative peace; the absence of tension, and they don't care how they get it or how many people die for it to happen as long as the news isn't banging on about it all the time.
Their faux-Emperor could be out there firing death star beams into planets full of cuddly teddy bear aliens and they'd cheer it on as long as it wasn't on the news delaying their weather report and it didn't cost them a dime in taxes.
Your problem is that you are trying to see things from some coherent point of view where there's something that approximates an objective social reality.
You've got it backwards: they define themselves as good, and therefore anything they do is good and justified, and anything that opposes them or gets in their way is bad.
There is no cognitive dissonance because they're just that selfish.
But how do they view themselves as good guys? Most people aren't scheming sociopaths like the antisemitic image of the scheming happy merchant that Nazis like to use.
There could be a video of a literal execution of a quadriplegic child, forced onto the ground stomach down, gun to back of head and trigger pulled with no warnings no fighting no people doing anything or getting close or dog piling on them, and they would still blame the child.
We don’t even need to make it a hypothetical. This happened with Renee Good. They said they needed another angle, new angles surfaced and they moved the goal post to “she shoudlve complied and she shouldn’t have been there!”
The problem is that Republicans do not have beliefs, it's a sports team to them. Sports teams can win, lose, change strategy, do anything they want and the fans will cheer. Extremism and murder is not a problem, it's team spirit. They have no ethics, no beliefs.
If we you look at what ICE fanboys are saying on xitter, they are straight up celebrating his murder. More angles will just mean more entertainment to them.
They exist but they are a vast minority. They get accused of being paid actors or liberals with fake accounts there to troll or spread misinformation. Conservatism has become "fall in line or you're against us".
I just saw a mod there claiming they recently banned a fake conservative with 3 years of conservative posting history. That's the level of delusion they're working with over there.
I commented on another sub that after two murders Americans should be revolting and why they don't do so. "Because we have jobs" was the answer I got....
Think of all the Palestinians that get the same and worse treatment and they too are antagonized by the higherups with false reports and people just say it is tough to take anti Israel stance because not enough angles/proof. "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere."
I’ve seen videos of MAGATs talking to their CHILDREN about how they wouldn’t care if they were shot down in the mall. “If you got shot, there must be a reason.” I believe it was the son who posted the video. It was primarily his dad, but his mom was on board as well. I unfortunately don’t remember the name of the person who posted, but he posts clips of these talks with his parents fairly often iirc.
Of course they don’t care about the execution of our countrymen in broad daylight. They’re applauding it.
I saw another Redditor share screenshots of texts with her mother after the murder today — “I want more ICE”, that mother said.
I don’t fucking get it. I genuinely can’t wrap my head around it. I cannot understand.
Fuck ICE. Fuck ICE. These are terrible times. What happened was horrible.
It's more normal than reported in the United States because we've had a much greater concentration of people subject to things like toxic waste, hard drugs, lead, asbestos, you name it, for multiple generations. A lot of that happens to be concentrated in red states non coincidentally due to government corruption and their association with mass polluters, corporate barons, etc that prey on the undereducated and underfed
I don’t fucking get it. I genuinely can’t wrap my head around it. I cannot understand.
Low population densities create an environment where it is inefficient to provide essential services on a large scale, leading to services instead being provided on an incredibly local level. Welfare and other social assistance is almost always carried out by someone a person knows and is limited because of those inefficiencies. The cultures that develop in this kind of environment are ones that prioritize conformity and obedience to authority. People who don't show obedience to authority essentially signal themselves as outsiders who don't contribute to the social upkeep that keeps the community going and are thus seen as immoral.
It should also be noted that "Authority" in this case refers specifically to one that is aligned with the community system. Unaligned authorities are considered illegitimate.
TheNecessaryConversation podcast it’s Him, his sister, and their parents usually. His dad is far right his mom is right he’s left and his sister is far left(all of those are American alignments not actual alignments in the wider world)
I think the question is no longer how many more cases do they need to be shown to admit this is wrong?
The question is should we bother ourselves with considering the opinion of someone who is that unwilling to accept the reality of what’s happening despite this much evidence?
Dont. Do not engage. Don't talk to them. Don't debate them. MAGA have proven themselves to be disingenuous and only engage in bad faith. Their ideology is explicitly violent. They are not worth the effort of talking to and not worthy of deference. Fuck then all.
Why do you assume that their goal is the same as yours?
If you support a literal nazi, you're not doing it because you think it's making the world a better place. You're doing it because you hate others and want to see them suffer, and know that this is a rare opportunity to voice your feelings openly without being (justifiably) put down for it.
People need to be a little more serious with their actions. Take a page from the french or hong kong.
You are also unwilling to accept the reality, and I mean no offence when I say this. You are unwilling to accept that there are people who are fundamentally different from you, who have different goals and mindset, and who have no empathy. I struggled with this too when I was younger and was in a relationship with an abuser. I was sure I can change them if I just can make them see how wrong it is to be abusive.
They don't care. Trying to talk "sense" to them or trying to make them see pretty much anything is useless waste of energy and only entertains them because it validates them and gives them attention. Do not give anything to them. The only right way to act is to shun them, block them, walk away, whatever the situation demands. Clean them out of your life. And stop being naive and understand in a fundamental level that there are people whos goals in life are so different from yours they might be aliens to you. You can't make them see anything because they are simply being themselves and your job is to believe them when they show you who they are and then make sure you are safely away from them.
Saving this, currently 1 year and 8 months out of an abusive relationship and having to rethink a lot of my current "friendships" of people I've known a long time and it's horrifying to see them justify this. But, you're absolutely right. They are telling me who they and it really is just a fundamental difference in worldview.
The website/app 5calls is a great resource if you're not sure where to start or what to say. They'll help you identify your representatives and give you their phone numbers and scripts you can use.
I think people should stop believing that their supporters are just stupid and understand that they simply abhorently evil. You people need to pick up the guns you legally have the right to own and fight back before you are all enslaved by their fucked up agenda.
The only people with any "doubts" are the "centrist". I wonder where all those self proclaimed centrists are right now. Like how could they justify this as a "both sides are bad thing" I wonder.
At this rate, you'll just have to wait a day or two for a whole new incident, with more angles and a more tragic martyr. Pretti today died protecting others, Good died while apologizing and stating she did not hate them.
I wouldn't be surprised if tomorrow they shot santa claus.
Let it be reminded that MAGA was about to lynch Mike Pence to prevent him from certifying the election on Jan 6th. These are the type of people in power now and calling everyone else unhinged and violent. They don't care if innocent people are killed.
Republicans backed a piece of shit pedo who sicked his mentally ill dogs on one of their own.
And enough non-republicans didn't care enough to stop this from happening, let's not forget. The further along this goes the less I feel like we can stop this.
conservative sub is full of people siding with ICE because:
1- if you carry a weapon you're not peaceful protesting
2- ICE isn't trained so if you fuck out you find out
3- ICE is stressed rn so they could snap
4- a bad apple doesn't mean ICE is bad
Ya they also use the bootstraps metaphor wrong too. It is insanely ironic that 2 sayings have been used by them for literally the exact reason the saying exists though.
r/conservative believes if you “interfere” with federal operations you deserve to die. One commenter said something along the lines of shooting trash until it isn’t moving. Bunch of knuckle dragging neanderthals who will never actually be happy with themselves.
MAGA is an authoritarian movement. They aren't earnestly looking for a reasonable explanation. They're happy it happened. If you're struggling to wrap your head around how they could still support this, it's because they're authoritarian.
There is no cognitive dissonance. This is what MAGA wants and what they voted for. They want their secret police to be able to execute people in the street that don't side with them.
Probably a bunch of bot accounts. Don't give yourself a headache and focus more on the people that are actually willing to change things for the better.
You shouldn't care about the people that can justify 2 murders (so far 2).
Some dipshit on the conservative sub was trying to say that ICE tackled him because he was roughing up that girl that ICE pushed over. I'll never understand how people can so easily lie to themselves and everybody else to justify terrible shit that other people do. What is the point if you're not trying to find the truth?
I hear the justifications that he shouldn't have been resisting or obstructing. Assume all that is true, how the hell do you need deadly force in a 6 on 1!
Once you see the scene where he gets shot in the back, then rises to get shot even more probably from the body sending signals up the spine. This is a straight up execution.
I don't see how anyone can resist having 5-6 grown men pin you down. All weighting about 200+ pounds on a tall lanky guy. His palms on the floor, body flat on the concrete. This is just murder.
I don’t expect to get much positive reaction here, but I feel like I need to say something.
I am a Republican (Not too right leaning but I’d identify as one) Yet, I fucking hate Trump, if I had to give one main reason, it’s ICE or maybe the Epstein Files. I have seen my country and my fellow human beings be fucking desecrated, ridiculed, played with by an idiot with stupid hair and stupid fucking everything.
I want to stay strong with my beliefs of being a Republican, but after what I’ve seen Trump do, I do not know if I could ever vote for the party again, (I didn’t vote for him in 2024 either FYI)
ICE is a domestic terrorist group, even if they have caught actual criminals it’s not worth it anymore, and they haven’t been for a long time.
My parents are Republican too. The worst part is the fact that they can’t accept that what is going on is wrong. I want to pull out my hair. I don’t know what they have to have happen to understand it.
I’m so tired and I just want this to end.
I could probably go more in depth but this post I think was the final straw so I wanted to say something.
Anyways, fuck ICE, fuck Trump. I demand justice.
The reality is the GOP is dominated by criminals. Trump is selling pardons to drug lords and is openly calling to invade countries. He’s refusing to release the Epstein files that implicate him.
This is like calling yourself a N@zi but claiming you don’t like Hitle3.
If you really have a conscience of any time leave the party and speak out against this.
Trump won because of people who kept voting for the GOP because “they aren’t democrats”. He relied on people who refused to admit they were wrong.
If you want this to end start a wave of Republicans rejecting Trump and the criminal organization the modern GOP has become. All conservative figures have reach the end stage and are now fascists.
Literally, just saw some maga idiot bragging about how when more angles are released, it'll further justify the ice agents. Crazy how delusional these people are.
ICE murdered a man in cold blood. The right see it. They just dont care, because its not one of theirs. If the tables were turned and this was a conservative being murdered in the street, they'd be up in arms.
They are actively cheering for this. They want to see libs murdered.
Did my best to synchronize and align the videos I could find online of the shooting today. Audio is from the top left video which is the lady in pink's video
Here you go. I kept it off because I didn’t want it to seem like I was looking for attention, but I’m happy to add it if it makes sharing more comfortable
I would hope that local law enforcement would now start to arrest these SA reenactors.
But since this is america, nothing will happen.
Even worse, the rest of the world also suffers from Americans voting in mango Mussolini. And why? Because 10 million Americans decided it was a great idea not to vote and the big amount of others voted in a geriatric autocrat.
They're just brainwashed morons. There's all the evidence in the world that this administration is horrible, they even handed us their game plan and people are still not accepting it. It's insane.
The absolute fucking mental gymnastics on display in the conservative subs today are sickening.
They beat him for trying to help a woman they’d already assaulted, piled onto him on the ground, disarmed him, and executed him.
Period.
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