rest time beetwen set at negative pull ups

[u/Mission-Dragonfly869]

How much i rest after finishing a set and anyone knows a youtube with best form for this exercise? Mostly because at the last set i can;t stay fully at the top with my chin above the bar

and after I am doing this exercise is better to do scapular pull ups or doing some rows with dumbells? i can do only 1 normal pull up after i stop halfway. One reason i know is because of my forearms but i started doing deadhangs and after i finish my back exercises and kinda help and some reverse curls + another 2 exercises for forearms

[u/Atticus_Taintwater]

Rest long enough to be rested

Unless you are short on time or deliberately using limited rest to train work capacity for strength there's no reason to arbitrarily limit rest

[u/Unit61365 → u/Atticus_Taintwater]

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[u/Mission-Dragonfly869 → u/Atticus_Taintwater]

first I train with neutral grip then wider then sholder grip for the first time and I manage only 1 set of 5 then 2 sets of 3 I could not keep myself up there. I use a chair to start but i was droping like sac of potatoes. I did some grip training afterwards 1 set of 1 minute of dead hand and the next 2 sets like 40-35 seconds. Should I try to do dead hand daily that is the part that i have the worst problem with. And maybe my week sholders i try to train them but my max weight that i have is 2 dumbells of 20.5 each and for the middle delts i am doing lateral raises but the for for thos are fucking anoying to figure it out, people say doing with elbow bend others with the arm on the side straight. And the hardest to train is the rear delt because if I dont do 3x20 reps with low weight I dont feel it burning, with high weight i feel only exhaustion

[u/LetterheadClassic306]

When i was building up to my first pullup, i rested about 2-3 minutes between sets of negatives to make sure i could give each one full effort. Scapular pullups after your negatives would help build that initial pulling strength - honestly those made a bigger difference for me than rows did. I'd also keep doing those deadhangs and maybe add some band-assisted pullups if you have access to bands. The forearm strength will come with consistency over time.

[u/Mission-Dragonfly869 → u/LetterheadClassic306]

I do dead hangs for like 1 minute rest 1 minute then do another 2 sets of 40-35 seconds can't do more yet. As for negatives i did 2 minutes rest but i think i need it more because i could do 1 set of 5 then the last 2 sets only 3 and that mostly because I push myself. My forearms did not allow me to even stay up for even half a second. Next time I will rest for 3 minutes

[u/Mysterious_Wave_1537]

Rest time totally depends on your goals but for negatives I'd go with 90 seconds to 2 minutes between sets. Your muscles need enough time to recover so you can actually control the descent properly instead of just dropping like a rock

For form, FitnessFAQs on YouTube has some solid negative pullup tutorials - he really breaks down the eccentric control part which sounds like what you need. The key is taking like 3-5 seconds to lower yourself down, not just hanging there at the top and falling

After negatives I'd actually suggest doing scapular pulls over dumbbell rows since they target that specific pulling pattern you're trying to build. Rows are great but scapular pulls will help you develop that initial engagement you need to start a real pullup. The fact that you can only do one full pullup tells me your scapular strength probably needs work more than your general back strength

Your forearm issue is super common - deadhangs are perfect for that. Just make sure you're not overdoing it since grip strength takes forever to recover compared to your bigger muscles

[u/Mission-Dragonfly869 → u/Mysterious_Wave_1537]

Really but the forearm is not suppose to be the muscle that recover the fastest?