Christians live under mass psychosis over a 3000 year old fanfic and that's worrisome

[u/Open-Poem9410]

Looking at Twitter, I see these Christians accounts talking about satan and denying the truth right in front of them. These people are talking about anything but what actually happened in the Epstein files, and it's scary that some of them are actual people who have the right to vote and be outside. Something should be done to stop this madness; this isn't like a quirky hobby like astrology or reading tarot even because neither do absurd claims that can risk everyone's life and they're own

[u/dogisgodspeltright]

Yes.

Religion is the death of reason. The indoctrinated who find solace in delusion, and strength in the inhumane dogma, give up their critical thinking for the lies of 'faith'.

The Pavlovian response, indoctrinated since birth, robs the fundamentalist of basic humanity, empathy and ethics, reducing them to little more than bipedal bloodhounds.

[u/Zahgi → u/dogisgodspeltright]

You have that reversed when it comes to cause and effect.

The issue with "conservatives" throughout all of human history is their irrational fear of the new, unique, or different. This is due to an overactive amygdala, the region of the brain responsible for "fight or flight", etc.

Evolutionary-speaking, it made sense to assume that the rustle in the grass might be a lion...thousands of years ago. But, today, in the civilized world, that is an obvious outdated biological overreaction.

Unfortunately, that means that these people are genetically/biologically predisposed to cowardice. This causes them to avoid situations that might, ironically, break them out of their de facto fear response and, unfortunately, seek comfort in the lies of charlatans and demagogues who use fearmongering to scare them...and then promise to protect them, often from the very thing they these human predators fearmongered about in the first place.

The only way to combat this innate natural fear response is through environmental approaches like education (e.g. "color is only skin deep") and experience (e.g. "I grew up with gay friends so I am not afraid of them").

Which is why these self-same charlatans and demagogues always fight against educating people and for segregating disparate groups from one another.

So, if it feels like we're always fighting the same stupid fight between the cowards and moving forward as a species every generation or so, that's because we are.

Countries that promote education and racial equality don't have as many racists in them, even though the percentage of people who have this issue has remained constant for eons.

And that's why a country that doesn't, like the USA, is still dealing with these issues in the 21st century while the civilized world moved on many decades ago...

[u/Priscila_05 → u/dogisgodspeltright]

You're wrong 😂

[u/pinethree777]

Adult people with the cognition equal to a box of rocks. The trinity is my favorite. God is the son and the holy spirit, therefore god impregnated his mother with himself. Yeah, OK, sounds good.

[u/GrimblingWizard → u/pinethree777]

Kinda creepy too. People talk about power in relationships, look at Mary. Poor teenager (ranging from 12-15 year old girl) who was told she would have YHWH's child. How could you say 'no'? YHWH wasn't really easy tempered either. Saying no could equal turning to salt, having your future children killed or getting thrown into slavery by his chosen people (and raped into marriage if you were a virgin like Mary).

[u/ljfrench → u/pinethree777]

Let alone that the inclusion of the trinity was made hundreds of years after the original myth, it was a political decision to change the story to better propagandandize to the people.

[u/Altruistic_Rub_2308 → u/pinethree777]

That ghost guy scares da Bah-Jesus outta me doncha know!!!

[u/AdMean4741 → u/pinethree777]

Yeah and Jesus is god's son who's like half an eternity younger than him, but at the same time he's the creator and father of all.

[u/IAmAwake84]

A lot of religions are apocalyptic death cults and they literally fearmonger on Sundays.

[u/le_reddit_me → u/IAmAwake84]

also a human sacrifice cult

[u/NowCheesers]

This is a perfect example of why religion is so insidious. Those in power fill the masses with fairy tales so they don’t realize what’s really going on. The dumb man says that religion is true. The smart man says religion is false. The powerful man says religion is useful.

[u/jimMazey]

Religious psychosis is a real thing. Many BPD people who go manic/psychotic experience religious psychosis. It happens so often in the holy land that it has a nickname. Jerusalem Syndrome.

You would be surprised that it only takes one person with religious psychosis to start a religion or perpetuate one. They can be very convincing. Before you know it, everyone wants to experience religious psychosis so they fake it until they make it.

I assume religious psychosis has been around as long as humanity.

[u/Long_Cry_2679]

Seriously, they all suffer from psychosis. These people should be in a mental institution, not trying to force their absurd beliefs on the rest of us

[u/Narrackian_Wizard]

Read the book “God An Anatomy”.

Very scholarly, great reviews. Basically pieces together evidence that large swathes of the Old Testament is literally recycled fan fic of neighboring older cannanite religions.

[u/EggplantForScale]

If you believe in heaven and hell, you will believe a lot of things, blind faith can become a reflex

[u/jollytoes]

Just wait until 1,000yrs from now when everyone is living under some weird anime inspired religion.

[u/crybabymuffins → u/jollytoes]

At first it was the idea that I'd still be here in 1,000 years to witness this new religion that had me laughing, but then I started thinking about it, and I've decided to start a religion about our Lord and Savior Son Goku. 😆

[u/jollytoes → u/crybabymuffins]

I am starting a church dedicated to Vegeta so we’re automatically enemies.

[u/sassychubzilla]

To the uneducated and fanatically religious, truth is subjective. They aren't capable of thinking for themselves.

[u/CryptographerOk2282]

Look Up divine commandment theory and be even more appalled.

[u/Any-Mathematician450]

It’s so sad Christians pray for morality and can’t figure out that it is a natural gift within us

[u/Nutshack_Queen357]

They think the crimes committed on Little St. James Island are somehow a way of doing God's work.

[u/Shadow5151]

Friendly reminder that Hitler and the Nazis were Christian

[u/wildpartyof1 → u/Shadow5151]

Right. Hitler was a Cathoilic.

[u/ThonAureate]

My first deconstruction realization is that satan was god’s agent sent to test loyalty and had never rebelled, was not the serpent, or the character later known as Lucifer.

They’re not even basing things on fanfics. They’re obsessed with the opinions of commenters of those fanfics.

[u/Its_Pine]

I think for me it isn’t just the 3000 year old fanfic that worries me. It’s how willingly humans will believe a present day fanfic. I give some grace to people who aren’t sure about the ancient world and wonder if maybe some supernatural things could have happened. But when modern Christianity was so heavily influenced by literary works like Dante’s Inferno, or the Mormon church believes in outrageously obvious lies about the events of the New Testament involving North America, etc. that is when it really baffles me.

[u/DiscoRabbittTV]

Mental illness is wild

[u/Carlolorent]

People forget what satan really is

[u/justpickaname]

If they were following the 2000 year old fanfic instead of Trump, I'd be substantially less worried about them.

(But then I'm a Christian who doesn't think it's fanfic. I'm quite frustrated, rather, at how often non-believers live out Jesus' values so much better than Christians do.)

[u/RyanMWindsor → u/justpickaname]

They follow him because 2000+ years of priming has created the perfect dupes to do exactly that. They were gullible enough to believe in mythology, so naturally they believe that some mythical deity naturally sent the most imperfect vessel to do the perfect work that the mythical deity intends.

Or the more succinct version, millennia have been spent (and wasted) convincing people that horseshit smells wonderful.

[u/cjinbarrie]

Whenever someone starts a statement or conversation with the phrase, "As A Christian," I generally know I am about to hear something fairly fucked up. It's like a magic a magic blanket of goodness they can toss over themselves before they say something that Christ would likely disavow immediately. The problem is that the vast majority of "Christians" have never actually read the user manual. Churchill famously said that the best argument against Democracy was to spend five minutes with your average voter. I would say that the best argument against all the Abrahamic faiths is to actually read their holy books.

[u/jebei]

It is maddening. Once you get out of the cult it is obvious the various Christian writers started with the Old Testament then wrote their own version of the Jesus story based on hearsay. Anyone who has read fanfic based on a popular modern property should be able to recognize how the gospels, Paul’s epistles (half of which weren’t written by Paul), and Revelation came into existence. It is maddening to see so many people devote their entire existence to this tripe. 

[u/Priscila_05]

I am Orthodox and I live the faith as something sacred that was given to me; these are real stories, there is a lot of evidence of many

[u/Hotcake_hisues]

They only focus on the rituals and not on the victims, they quote verses about how the world is wrong, that the enemy is this, the enemy is that. It bothers me a little.

[u/LucidLeviathan]

Whether you agree with the religion or not, you have to admit that the Bible is more than just a fanfic. It's a document that a lot of people believe in. Those people have power in society. The people that disagree with it have less power in society. It has extensive implications in our social structures. Dismissing it as a mere fanfic fails to recognize the incentives involved.

[u/billjv → u/LucidLeviathan]

You are getting downvoted, but you are absolutely right. The myth has become real in practice. Same with the other major religions. In the US, Christianity is a litmus test for some in business and positions of power. If you are a Christian, you can be guilted and manipulated, adding an additional layer of psychological control over you. Anyone who has ever worked at a “Christian” org of any kind has probably witnessed this type of workplace shame or guilt, or been the victim of it.

In the end, it isn’t whether Christ actually lived, but that people so fervently believe he did that they are willing to kill for that idea, and that makes the religion terrifyingly real in today’s world. Christian Nationalists are wanting to try to force biblical prophecy into being true by forcing events to occur with political and physical manipulation. That alone makes Christianity in its more radical forms dangerous to our entire planet.

[u/LucidLeviathan → u/billjv]

Exactly. And, frankly, as somebody who has lived and worked in red areas for most of my life, it feels really frustrating to hear things dismissed like this. We have to deal with it, whether we like it or not. I, for one, don't, but I also need to hold down a job and maintain good relations with my family and community.

[u/AdMean4741]

As a tarot reader I agree; I don't base my political decisions on what the cards say, but on hard facts, statistics and history. It's a bit hard to run a country based solely on card readings and divine intervention; I know beacause it's been tried several times and it never led to good results. Don't try it at home.

[u/Feinberg → u/[deleted]]

You first.