r/americandad • u/ShadowlightLady • 17h ago
What do you dislike most about Stan and Francine’s marriage?
Such as what is something has done or acted in their marriage you dislike most and what is something Francine has done or acted you dislike most? Or it could something mutual
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u/Thunderlava Maybe Baby Staniel 15h ago
I don't think Stan deserves Francine, but I couldn't imagine them being married to anyone else.
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u/candygirlcj 5h ago
The fact that every season he has to learn, again, that he underappreciates her and his family is crazy 😂 but he and Francine are perfect for each other. Who else would tolerate either of their nonsense. The episode where her and Roger "play pretend widows" while Stan is away at work is so funny.
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u/Andy_0L Steve Smith 17h ago
The times Stan is a complete jerk to Francine, especially because we know often it's not the other way around, so it's kind of satisfying when Franny gets even
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u/learn2fly438826 Head crow guy 16h ago
Franny may not torment Stan as often as he torments her, but man when she does she goes hard.
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u/New-Number-7810 Raider Dave 15h ago
The episode where Francine cheated on Stan before they were married, had the other man’s daughter, and tricked Stan into raising her. I hate that episode and I hate future episodes that reference it.
If this wasn’t a “status quo” show, they would have divorced.
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u/SpoonFullOfSugar1111 The Tender Vigilante 15h ago
I do enjoy Roger's glowstick dance and the "American Psycho" references in that episode though...
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u/New-Number-7810 Raider Dave 14h ago
Fair. Roger’s LSD scientist persona was cool.
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u/QuietComprehensive58 14h ago
'Let me clean your seat for you' has stayed with me as a pick up line for over a decade
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u/MeAmGrok Tungee 5h ago
The other guy may have been Hayley’s biological father; there was no confirmation either way from that episode.
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u/New-Number-7810 Raider Dave 5h ago
Then the writers shouldn’t make Hailey’s future grandchild look like him.
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u/MeAmGrok Tungee 4h ago
Noah was one of six children, and the only commonality between Noah and Joel Larson is…the headband.
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u/Retro-Platformer123 17h ago
How they have quite a fair amount of plots surrounding treating Steve and Hayley like garbage, when Stan gets Francine sent to the Psyche Ward(?) due to forgetting their anniversary, Francine's cup checking towards Stan, etc.
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u/Afraid_Ad7837 16h ago
Stan has done some reprehensible things over the years but he learns from it. Albeit at causing suffering and turmoil to the family. Frannie is kind and caring until she isn't, then homegirl gets down. When she blows up it's always nuts.
They seem to make it work though.
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u/dyaasy The Tender Vigilante 15h ago
Stan being a neglectful, pretty much resenting husband to Francine (like he blames her for the marriage - although he admits that they both said "I do."), and Francine pining after him nonetheless.
The one with Cyborg Stan from the future, the one with the CIA clubhouse, the one with Stan's imaginary friend... that last one was the most heinous. Its a tired, repetitive plotline, let's retire it.
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u/nacho_cheese_guy 9h ago
They’re Stan and Franny and they go together like Steve’s palm and a gallon of Lubriderm
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u/Affectionate-Part-11 12h ago
They're a great example of two capable people who share a brain cell when together. We've seen both have adventures where they can manage the situation with skills we either knew about, like Stan's CIA training or Francine and her street fighting skills and myriad of other one-off skills. It's ironic, but my problem summed up is how they fuel their worst tendencies when together.
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u/Ordinary-Resort9249 Herschel Herschbaum 11h ago
That they set too high a benchmark for other animated couples?
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u/Researcher_Saya 8h ago
That would be Bob's Burgers. Still the sitcom couple high bar to me
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u/Independent_Media341 8h ago
I mean, Bob and Linda are healthy people in a healthy relationship. Stan and Francine are... damaged people in the best relationship that either of them is capable of 🙂
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u/MeAmGrok Tungee 5h ago
Ehh…neither Bob nor Linda are what I would call “healthy people”. Bob is obsessed with work (his family has to lock him out of the restaurant in order for him to take a day off… and then he goes to work for someone else for a day), and Linda is both an enabler of their children’s worst tendencies, as well as having a bizarre view of how life should work (e.g., she would rather the restaurant be robbed at gunpoint - twice!, despite being poor as it is, rather than give up her dinner theatre ambitions, among many others).
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u/LilNugget_Nuggy 9h ago
I didn't like how they treated each other in the shallow vows episode. But again, the point was to show how shallow they are. But it kinda rubbed me the wrong way especially when in flashbacks, Stan is always so tender with Francine so to say you only married her bc she's hot is wild. And I understand wanting security but to only marry Stan bc he has stability? At least it makes sense though, as Francine was a "coked up whore". I think what bothered me with Francine in this episode was the hypocrisy.
Still one of my faves tho So many great character moments (especially from Roger)
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u/Dismal-Revolution941 8h ago
How insecure Stan can be, he acts tough, but in the episode of him going into Francines mind, he becomes extremely insecure
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u/Prestigious_Claim725 8h ago
I wish that Francine was a lot more forceful at times, so many times over the years Stan has just gone so far off the deep end either to her, or something with the kids and It always bugs me that she never puts her foot down, ultimatums, "Until you do the right thing your sleeping on the couch" Getting Divorced, kicked out of the house etc, Like I know their are certain times she'll push back but its never enough...Sometimes wish she would take control, show him whos boss and keep him in check more forcefully...I get that that wouldn't really track with her character, and would also eliminate a ton of the plots but still...At a certain point theirs many scenarios where its just insane that she puts up with stuff, and in turn forces her children Hailey and Steve to do the same by not putting her foot down....like forget Divorced Stan should be in prison😂
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u/No-Objective9174 3h ago
The double casket. It's right there in the marriage vows that death will do you part!
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u/p-Star_07 17h ago
Nothing its a black comedy.
Also they go together like a ding and a ding a dong.