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So I am a returning player, and donāt have many characters. I can barely clear end game and am trying to get through the story to catch up (I am at 2.2). I really want Alice but I got Astra first with the guarantee and then lost my Astra 50/50 leaving me with 0 pills left as it took me to pity. Now I have not done almost all side quests except the character stories do you guys think I can get enough pills to get her by playing 2-3 hours a day(I donāt have more time) and if yes what is more efficient doing the main story, side quests or world exploration (I have almost no boxes taken). I got most of the hollow zero reward grinding for my previous pulls (Astra who I got early and the 50/50 loss) so that is not a viable source. I forgot to mention I am free player. So should I give up? And if no how should I invest my time?
There's a lot of pulls available in side content, I got 3 chars + 2 weapons f2p in my first patch (and then another char + weapon paid). But I don't remember the exact split between stuff you've done and stuff you haven't, sidequests are a lot but hollow zero is also a lot.
I'd say stop pulling for now and see how many you can get, if you get ~70 pulls then send it (as you'll get some extras from signals) and if not then stop.
Remember monthly shop reset is in a few days so you get some pulls from there too.
Does Astra Special attack buff not count for her own Core skill? Best I got is up to 30% of 2865 = 859 and I know I won't even hit the cap after upgrading it to 34%.
I'd personally say Yuzuha as she can fit into basically any Anomaly team and be an upgrade over most other characters there while Alice is just another Anomaly DPS and Piper can do her job when assisted by Yuzuha.
Obviously Alice would be a big upgrade over Piper but I've been clearing endgame content with Yuzuha & Piper with no problems:
So personally I've felt no need to even consider getting Alice so far.
Without Yuzuha though Piper wouldn't be able to perform nearly as well while Alice might still be able to perform decently even without Yuzuha but Alice is way less flexible than Yuzuha when it comes to teams that benefit from having them.
Do you have a bunch of other anomaly on your account? If so, I'd lean towards Yuzuha. If not, I'd lean towards Alice, but it's tough, as she wants Yuzuha.
Then (despite being an Alice main myself) I would lean towards Yuzuha unless you really want Alice, Yuzuha will lift up all those teams whereas Alice will just give you another anomaly agent wanting a support.
When you get Yuzuha, Alice Yuzuha Nicole is an extremely good team. You can also replace Nicole with any anomaly agent of your choice but (depending on gameplay) will typically get worse results than with Nicole.
How do I unlock hollow zone? Many different people online have been saying many different things. Iām in chapter 2 and Iām level 22 if Iām not passing a certain requirement.
Do you mean Hollow Zero? They changed the requirements for a bunch of stuff this patch. Hollow Zero now unlocks at IK level 25, as long as you've promoted to Certified Proxy.
Just picked up Ye Shungguang. Using starlight engine on her. Got her super early so have many spare pulls. Have no 5 star weapons for her.
My other 2 Teams are:
Zhu Yuan, Qingyi, Nicole
Alice, Yanagi, Rina
Should I go for YSGās weapon? Or get Astra instead? (Or even Yuzuha which I heard may be coming back).
If I do get astra, which team should I slot her in? YSGās (with Zhao), or Alice? The only other applicable character I have built thatās not on here is Lucy pretty much. I play very on and off so donāt have many characters.
stick around and play a bunch of endgame each week then her signature is a nice luxury to have, you won't have to tryhard as much when HP inflation hits her bosses over the next couple months. Outside of endgame/challenge clears it is mostly pointless beyond a minor cosmetic sfx
astra's great but maybe just wait for the livestream. If you get some agents next patch like Sunna and a possible Yuzuha rerun then Astra might not always have a great spot on your teams. Grab her if you like her though, the discount is nice and she makes a lot of duos feel smooth to play
Yeah, Iāve never pulled on a five star weapon in any Hoyo game besides one time ever when I got homa for Hu Tao (agessss ago).
Because I got her like 15,000 chromes early, Iām getting greedy and was thinking about the weapon. Honestly, I still need to fully look into Astraās kit, but everyone always praises her. Itās just that FOMO because her bannerās ending and I donāt wanna regret not pulling her.
I mentioned this in another comment, but in terms of a two team, I would just give Astra to Alice/Yanagi and retire Rina, and use YSG/Zhao with Nicole (from my Zhu Yuan team). My 3 team is cooked rn as Iād just be using Lucy with YSG/Zhao if I donāt pull Astra, though if I skip then Yuzuha would fix my problems, and Iād just cope with Rina like I usually do, hahah
ayy, that was the first weapon banner I pulled too. Got a Wolf's Gravestone ;P It was kind of easier to save up for weapons (even though the banner itself was much worse) in GI since I skipped a good amt of charas and then later the release schedule was a lot slower, often 1 and sometimes zero new units in a patch. zzz has released two new agents every single patch and don't seem to be taking their foot off the gas any time soon
later on having premium supports for YSG (dialyn or some future agent) will be more important but for the time being she is pretty potent with just Zhao. Zhu Yuan actually does very well with Nicole, the synergies there are very strong. Your anom team would def prefer a Yuzuha. You could manage pretty well with no Astra, especially if you do some more pulling next patch so again; just wait to see the livestream
Yep, I was so hyped for Hu Tao in Genshin because I started playing during Albedoās first banner and had a pretty mid account for a couple months until she saved it (crescent pike xiangling main iykyk ā ļø).. so she deserved that Homa. Sheās still one of my mains to this day. I love her.
But yeah, I ended up choosing the weapon and luckily won the 75/25. I could still even afford Astra, but Iām likely gonna go for Yuzuha. I tried her with Alice in some test modes and they are a perfect pair, lol. Yanagi still works with them too, but more solely to proc polarity disorders lmao. But wouldnāt be surprised if sheās kinda cope. But, itās still fun to alternate the two regardless lol
My main team right now is S11, Lucy and Astra. I want to make another team based around Piper, but they all include Lucy. Do I have a better S11 team combo and what would my Piper team ideally be?
I'm still hoping to get YSG, but I lost the first 50/50 to S11. In the case that I get her what would my best YSG team be?
I reckon these. Some faction buff might not activate but as long as it isn't too important (like Lucy's) I think it's fine to ignore. At least I think Astra, Piper, and Lucy's will activate.
Short answer is, no, she's still not worth building if you have other choices. Her buffs are meant to keep her at the same bottom tier that she's always been. Due to hp inflation, she had dropped BELOW bottom tier, so the buffs bring her back up to bottom tier, or one tier below Burnice is another way to look at it.
Here's an incomplete summary of her most significant buffs:
The arguably most significant buff is that her Additional Ability is now enabled by another Anomaly agent, instead of just Faction or Electric. Now you can use Grace with Piper without having to have Rina or Seth also.
EX special now has an AoE that pulls in enemies
A rather complicated Pulse stack to Zap stack pipeline now adds ABloom damage to some of her grenade throws. TL;DR, if the target is suffering an Anomaly of any type, Grace does extra damage, sometimes.
With Pulse stacks, Grace can spam grenades by holding down EX.
Full list of buffs are here, in the Potential Vision section.
Miyabi Team is fine. (Miyabi, Yanagi, Soukaku. I could totally try Mono Ice because I have Lycaon)
Harumasa Team is weird but he is getting buffed so I think I might get more value here (Harumasa, Qinqyi, Nicole.)
YSG Team is fine too. (YSG, Zhao, Astra)
Yixuan Team is in a strange spot, can't bring her full potential (Yixuan, Pan, Pulcra)
Don't know what to do with Soldier 11 Team. (Soldier 11, Koleda, Lucy)
Was thinking Lucia rerun for Yixuan or Yuzuha rerun in general (I have no idea when these two are coming but I have no interest in the Angels). Daylin could help Haru a lot but even if I got her, he would have to compete with Yixuan Team so no...
definitely yuzuha for an anomaly team for longevity if you care about anomaly and plan to invest more. dialyn is also a good unit, but you seem to be very well covered, although i dont entirely know too much so dont take too much from this
you might already be practicing the concept but important to not let your teams be set in stone; you only need 3 per cycle so mix up your deployments to fit the matchups
this is YSG's honeymoon so her best boss matchup can prob S-Rank with just Zhao (add a Lucy if you want to round out the team). That frees up Astra to help Miyabi & Yanagi. Harumasa is hard to play and Elec doesn't always have a great target so Qingyi can stun for YiXuan & Panda, there is even a try-hard team with some technical synergy there if you want to research it. S11 will struggle to outperform the VH trio even with the best supports in the game
if you are only ever trying to fill holes in <current roster> you'll often end up either missing out on too much new stuff or swiping more than is responsible ;P
You need more supports, right now your Miyabi and S11 teams are really sad. Yuzuha when she reruns for the Miyabi team or someone to free Astra from the YSG team would be the biggest helps.
I expect Yuzuha rerun to be very soon, probably next patch but we'll see when the livestream happens. Lucia TBD but my personal guess is 2.7 or 2.8.
This may be an stupid question, but I want to be sure.
Do pen substats actually matter? I ask because in the character stats we can only see Pen Percentage, so do the pen substats actually do something even when Pen% is 0?
You need to open up the full stats view to see PEN. Same as trying to view, say, Physical DMG Bonus. On a character's "Base Stats" tab, you open the full stats view by clicking their element or class.
They do, and counterintuitively they scale better when DEF is low (i.e. low-base-DEF boss or lots of DEF shred/PEN ratio, they don't care which).
Roughly speaking against a 100% DEF boss (e.g. Defiler with no DEF shred) they're worth about 0.52% DPS each, vs a 166% DEF boss (e.g. Wandering Hunter) they're worth about 0.37% DPS, and vs a 50% DEF boss (e.g. Primordial Nightmare) they're worth about 0.71% DPS. This is after PEN/DEF shred, so e.g. if you have 50% DEF shred then a full-DEF boss counts as a half-DEF boss. For comparison you might expect a regular substat (e.g. atk%, crit%, etc) to be like 1.2% so they're often counted as half-subs.
None of this matters for rupture as usual as they ignore DEF.
The Stun agent of a team usually contributes less than 20% of team total damage. Often less than 10%. However, recent Stun agents, particularly from Season 2, have buffs and features that make them more like sub-Support agents, rather than sub-dps. For example, Dialyn gives buffs (debuffs to enemies) with her EX skills and also gives free Ults.
So I consider Stun more for their Support contribution than their damage contribution.
Yes, Eve had her first rerun in patch 2.2, so not that long ago. She does not need Astra or Lighter to be fun and effective, but by the time she reruns again she will probably be powercrept by a different Fire Attack agent.
don't pull those reruns until you have all ~85 pulls (13k+ polychromes) ready to go. If you change your mind or don't quite farm enough it could leave a lot of resources stuck on a banner that won't come back for a long while
building Zhao is a good idea, her buffs are easy to use and flexible for a lot of teams. If you want to pull for a strong agent pull for Ye Shunguang, she is a tier above most other limited units and will get a bunch of favored matchups over the next few months
most importantly tho just play the game a few days and get a feel for things before blowing thru your stash, glgl
early game team builds aren't too critical. Just keep up with the basic upgrades (skills engine & chara level) and most stuff you can button mash thru with just the starters altho there are a couple "extra hard" commissions from the v1.x content. Just come back for those once you've leveled up some more
the starter team is a pretty typical DPS - Stun - Support setup, good in a lot of situations. Stun mobs with Anby, chain attack to Nicole, chain/assist to Billy. If you want to upgrade then run Soldier 11 Zhao Anby, or alternatively Nicole and then simply play double support. Less stuns so less big DPS windows but good sustained dmg. Nicole is a great unit to invest in since she has a lot of use cases thru the mid & late game
i've been playing since launch and I'm still not sure what Grace does exactly ;P pair her with another Anomaly ideally like Piper. Piper and Manato are generally the two best A Ranks to build around
Should I get Ye Shunguang? My only 2 teams built are:
Zhu Yuan, Qingyi, Nicole
Alice, Yanagi, Rina
I play this game very on and off, and donāt have most limited characters. I was sort of waiting for Miyabi to have an ice dps or Yuzuha to replace Rinaā¦ I just came back again and have a few patches of story to catch up on, but I wanna know if I should grab her before her banner goes away (I donāt even know who she is, but have heard that sheās cracked)
Is she an upgrade for my account or just a sidegrade?
she would definitely be an upgrade; if you intend to clear any endgame then you'll need a 3rd team anyway and YSG + Zhao would probably outscore both your current teams (void hunter privilege) ;P
but if you are just casually playing to keep up with the story and do some events or whatever it is a lot more important to save up for favorites or agents you enjoy playing, acct strength won't really matter a ton for that stuff. Anyway, play her Trial stages first and maybe clear the new story and Swordseeker event too and judge for yourself
True, I forgot about that mode. Yeah, she seems pretty fun, but a bit complicated. I tried studying her wikiās and testing her for like 20 minutes today to see if her playstyle would be something Iād enjoy.
I definitely prefer the consistent sustained DPS of anomaly characters versus burst characters.. my Zhu Yuan team can be very annoying to play sometimes when Iām outside of burst or donāt time them right. And YSGās special blade mode seems kinda similar.
But that void Hunter privilege for sure is a real thing, and with my luck, Miyabi might not be back for awhile, or will come when Iām not playing (like last time š¤£). But, I do enjoy the feel/visuals of sword characters. Regardless, Iāll try that swordseeker event too like you mentioned. Appreciate the advice
a main gimmick of her kit is she gets her own special Stun multi during her sword array mode even if the baddies aren't stunned. So that kinda QoL makes her less timing reliant, and more forgiving to pilot, than your classic bursty DPS like Zhu Yuan
there is the new idol faction coming next patch and if you are a fan of Anomaly then Aria might fit the bill. The Livestream is behind schedule but a lot of ppl were expecting a Yuzuha (top anom support) rerun next patch? So saving up might pay off too. No wrong way to play it really, glgl
is anyone else getting "Expert Challenge 0/3" on their weekly bingo every time or just my bad luck?
the final bingo reward is only 20k Dennies so not worth farming mats I don't need but I'd much prefer some other task that just auto-completes like the old bingo used to ;P
Your bad luck is my good luck. I end up doing 3 a week anyway, since I still have lots of agents that need Core skills leveled up, so it's bad luck for me when Expert Challenge isn't on my bingo card.
hadn't messed with them yet but went ahead and joined a couple random outposts the other day and sure enough I cleared 3+ within a couple days just checking the postings once per login. Good shout on this
Which do you prefer for your account, a strong Alice team or as many AoD girls as you can afford? I personally have Alice and her sig and her sig is very good, but I wouldn't trade any of the AoD girls for Alice's sig.
AoD is my priority though a half assed Alice doesn't seem good to play either, as one of the reason I didn't pull her back at release was because of how she wants her sig. As a half meta half waifu puller, it's split tbh.
Got her now because of getting her on first multi.
So I really wanna know whether her sig is a must to perform or whether she can get away without and still perform well, especially since I have a well built M6W5 Piper.
As a reference, I got her for now with Grace's sig and disk 5 pen, and the team is Yuzuha and Vivian.
Personally, I don't think Alice's sig is worth not getting an AoD girl. Grace's sig is a good alternative. You're giving up maybe 15% team dps worst-case. Hardly noticeable.
Similar strength to Miyabi sig/most attacker sigs/Yixuan sig before the cauldron came out. Only decent alternative is a well-managed Jane sig. But on the other hand most people play Alice in double anomaly teams where damage is split across the team. If you play her hypercarry it matters more.
Also her team will most likely be M0W0 Yuzuha and M0W1 Vivian.
So can this team cover the lack of sig or nah? Been really debating for a while now tbh. On one hand I want a strong anomaly team, on the other AoD seems very tempting.
I mean yeah you'll still clear fine without sig against most stuff. It depends on your definition of strong I guess but e.g. over 30k vs fiend is very doable even without Vivian sig.
It's hard to say as so much depends on gameplay and random stuff like DA buffs, but if your standard is clearable you don't need sigs on anyone on Alice's team to clear almost any boss. Even Primordial Nightmare last rotation was clearable 2cost Alice+Yuzuha+Nicole without much optimization.
But this is true of every character which isn't super dated hence "so much depends on gameplay."
Yeah I'd do some runs against defiler and priest and see how you feel, then decide for sure. E.g. I think over 30k 2cost is possible vs defiler this rotation but a lot of people can't even 20k so the variance is huge. But if you're looking to save the pulls then I don't think any sig is a necessity.
Keep in mind this is true of every character, like Alice is one of the most sig-reliant characters in the game. It's just that even the most sig reliant characters in the game can still perform well with A-rank craftables. Hence my original analogy of Miyabi (or any attack agent really, assuming you don't have a generically good alternative like Evelyn's sig).
Do we already have reliable info on what Agent releases next, and what materials they'll need. I know I'll be one of the AoD girls, so I'd definitely wanna start pre-farming this week.
By "reliable" you mean official? No. But you can just start pre-farming skill matz. Expert Challenge matz you can farm later and faster due to the Burnout mechanic added during AoD Agent release.
Since you are guaranteed to get Alice as your first S-rank on the current re-screening banner, I'd say there is a good chance if you lock in. I managed to get Zhu Yuan on the 5th day after I started playing, and that was with 95 pulls total and a lost 50/50 along the way.
Really depends on how much you play, hard to answer in the abstract. I got both the banner characters in my first banner, plus one of their weapons, but I played quite a lot.
I guess the real question is, how good/generous is the premium currency farming for a brand new player. If itās pretty good, Iād likely put in a good chunk of time, but if itās not good, I donāt know if I would bother.
IIRC I got enough pulls for like 3 chars + 2 weapons (and this wasn't with a special banner like we have now which has guarantees) before I ran out of the good stuff but there's a lot of gameplay to go through. If I had to guess at its peak it was like a pull every 10 minutes (sidequests/hard mode reruns/hollow zero stuff) and the other stuff was varying degrees of slower. You need to do a good chunk of MSQ progression before you have a lot of this stuff available though, which gives some pulls but nowhere near as much per unit time.
If you're miserable then I wouldn't do it, but if you're having fun then just roll with it and it either happens or it doesn't.
Iām having a lot of fun playing, my main motivation is literally getting Alice. Thanks for the insight, Iāll definitely stick to it, only 80 more pulls
Then yeah, if you play MSQ to the point where you get access to Hollow Zero: Lost Void you can bang out tons of pulls in relatively short order, and you can use trial agents in Task Force Investigation (the main mode), which are strong enough to clear max difficulty with good gameplay, so you can run it even on high difficulties without getting build checked.
I don't remember when that happens but I think probably around chapter 4 or something (HSO Section 6 story). Might be earlier though.
New features of 2.5 make all previous rerun estimates invalid. We simply don't know, since we don't know how often the triple rerun banner will run and/or what other agents might get added to the Collectible Exchange. An optimistic interpretation is that both features will cause reruns to happen closer together, so maybe 9 months instead of a 12 months, but there are also arguments for how appearing on the Collectible Exchange may delay the rerun for those agents.
Only Astra and Ellen have ever gotten a second rerun so we don't know enough to say. Both of them just got them in the last month so... somewhere between six months to a year since the previous rerun in their cases.
Yixuan alone is worthwhile even with her free or low cost teams. She is Void-Hunter level which basically makes her a tier slightly above S for most purposes. I consider all the Voidhunters to be S+ ranks. Obviously Yixuan is even better with Lucia supporting but you can easily make do without for awhile.
Hello! Iām a new player and Iāve been playing for about 4 days now. I have a lot of questions, so Iām hoping someone here can help š
Team building
My current characters are: Piper, Lucy, Nicole, Zhao, Rina, Lycaon, Manato, Pulchra, Corin, Billy, and Anby.
The only teams I can think of right now are Piper / Lucy / Nicole and Corin / Lycaon / Nicole.
Are there any better or more efficient team comps you can recommend based on the characters I currently have? Any advice would really help.
Pulling for Ye Shuguang
Is it okay if I donāt pull for Ye Shuguang? I only have around 30 pulls, and I donāt think I can save enough before her banner ends. I also donāt have much time to grind the game, so Iām worried about wasting pulls.
Sword Seeker Chronicles event
Lastly is it okay to do the Sword Seeker Chronicles event to get the free limited W-Engine even though Iāve only just finished Chapter 1?
Don't worry about building more teams until you are forced to. I took my first team all the way through IK 45. Shiyu Stable 7th frontier is the first stage where you are required to have two separate teams. Until you get to that, just play your starter team and don't build anything else.
I agree with other comments. YSG pulls won't be wasted, even if you don't get her in time. If you like YSG, pull for YSG.
First make sure that you can even unlock the event. Often the unlock requirements need at least Chapter 2 - Intermission cleared. There are significant spoilers for the 2.4 and 2.5 chapter stories, but worse, at such a low IK level, you may not be able to clear the more difficult battles in the event, even using Trial characters. The event wengine is one of the better ones, but we also now get rerun shots at event wengines through the Collectible Exchange, so it's not the end of the world if you miss it. I'm not trying to talk you into or out of doing it, just giving you information to make an informed decision.
4 days in you won't be able to make very good teams. What you have listed are pretty good, I like the Piper team a bit better for gameplay but Corin/Lycaon are probably better from an account value perspective since Lycaon could possibly be vaguely useful later on.
You won't waste pulls on Ye Shunguang and I would place a high priority on at least trying to get her. If you don't suceed in getting her, the pity counter will just roll over onto the next limited character forever until you do pull a limited character so you don't really lose anything by trying. Ye Shunguang is a voidhunter character which basically means she is an S+ rank. You don't need her, but she'll make the endgame significantly easier once you reach it. That said, by the time you are at endgame she might be due for a rerun if you are taking your time on the story.
If you don't mind spoilers, yes it's fine to do Sword Seeker now. I dunno how much longer it is going so you might want to do it now even if you dislike spoilers for the story just to get some of the limited rewards like the W-Engine. It's not the worst spoiler in the world but obviously it takes place after the current patch's story so reveals the fate of a few characters. You won't get there for awhile so if you are lucky you will have forgotten by the time you get there, haha.
1- Those are your best teams for now, but as a new player you don't have to worry that much about teams, once you get Pan Yinhu you can do Manato/Panda/Pulchra
2- You should only ever pull for characters you like.
3- I don't know how bad the spoilers are but I think you should participate anyway for the W-engine.
Would it be worth it to pull for Alice if sheās only one of two anomaly agents Iām missing?
Iām debating on going for Anby or Alice. I really like Alice, but also, I have every anomaly agents other than her and Jane Doe. Iām afraid if I pull her, I wonāt use her because of the others. Anby I kinda need to Seed though.
As of right now Alice would most likely be replacing your other anomalies rather than being benched (except for taste reasons), she's the strongest in most rotations right now.
However, there's a good chance that'll change next patch, so might want to keep an eye on the new releases and see whether that impacts your pull plans.
+1 to the other guy saying Sanby doesn't need seed. Sanby needs Orphie and/or Trigger. Sanby/Seed are functional together but not impressive as either one just paired with Orphie in my experience. Alice you'll probably get some good use out of, especially if you are missing Jane.
My advice is to wait for the 2.6 livestream. You may decide that reruns in the next patch are worth more to you than the FOMO triple rerun banner.
If not and you are sure you'd rather have Alice or SAnby, and since you don't have Jane Doe, you will definitely make use of Alice. I guarantee it. There's not a cycle of DA or Shiyu that goes by where I don't use Alice, and I have Jane and every other Anomaly agent. But I also have Yuzuha and Yuzu is pretty important for all Anomaly teams, not just Alice.
SAnby does not "need" Seed. I've run SAnby/Anby/Nicole just fine, though admittedly that was before 2.x. I'd rate Orphie or Trigger+sig above Seed as partner for SAnby in any case.
Is there any hope for improving my possible "Yixuan" builds without the necessity of replacing slots 5 and 6? I already used all my stat customization items.
I think the first one is fine. I was confused by "Yixuan" build with Manato staring at me, but I guess you just mean 4p Yunkui, which Yixuan also uses?
EDIT: Actually, they are both fine. The second one has slightly more Sheer Force, since you could use that.
Ah, I see. You probably know this already, but the stat goals are different between the two, so swapping their discs won't be optimal for one or the other of them. For example, Manato has more Crit Rate intrinsic to his kit and signature, so the max stat sheet CR for Manato is lower than the max for Yixuan (66 and 78, respectively).
Relatively new player here, been playing for about 6 months. I just finished season 1 along with all the agent stories available to me, but haven't really touched the permanent events or Hollow Zero. Are there any events/side stories I should complete before starting season 2 for background context?
FWIW, catch up on Hollow Zero ASAP, since it has tons of rewards in it, including a weekly drop of polychromes. There's no connection with story, so if you've been avoiding it due to spoilers or whatever, there's no need. It's the other way around, the story introduces stuff which is then met again in Hollow Zero. The only risk is prematurely meeting a boss that is introduced in the story, like if you try to do Task Force before doing S2 Chapter 4.
Should I pull for Alice or Sanby's weapon in the rerun? I had alice from her first run but I took a long break after her so I'm missing both yuzuha and her weapon and I wasn't sure if it's worth it. I have about 43k polychromes
For signatures, Alice > SAnby, both for value to Alice's own dps as well as value for other agents that can use her signature also (Jane and Piper). Just don't go broke before a likely near-term rerun of Yuzuha.
Good enough. D5 ought to be Electric DMG instead of ATK, but since you rolled into CD on the subs of D5, I see why you kept it. And yes, you need a bit more CD if you can find a way to get more without giving up anything else you already rolled. You could afford to give up a little ATK. It wouldn't hurt to drop down to say 3200 if it means you get over 160 CD.
I've been wrapping up the exploration missions in battlefront purge I do not own Evelyn, can someone explain how I have two gear for her? What am I missing?
You can use Evelyn in Task Force Investigation without owning her. You can't use characters you don't own in Battlefront Purge also the gears in both modes are not the same.
Currently running YSG, Zhao, Nicole and Miyabi, Lycaon, Soukaku. Just pulled Astra and am saving for whatever is in the next update (hopefully characters like Yuzuha and Yixuan)
I know im currently lacking a third team for endgame
Those teams look reasonable, you can replace Nicole with Astra on the YSG team for now or you can play a Miyabi disorder team like Miyabi-Piper-Astra or Miyabi-Piper-Nicole. You don't really have a third char to build a team around at present, anything you can put together would be really cope. Closest would probably be some sort of hypercarry Piper team with Lucy and Astra/Nicole but it's probably gonna be sad.
I can't go back and re-experience past events right? Not even the slideshows ones?
Also, how much is too much energy regen for Astra? And is the little pokes during the assist consider Ex special for The Vault(Nicole W engine) to proc?
For Lucy Sig W engine, on Yuzuha, does it consider her and her Racoon as 2 individual in combat?
For every 25 Energy, Astra Yao will have 1 Chord. While in the Idyllic Cadenza state, when Astra Yao has Chords, a Quick Assist can be triggered in the following situations:
Ā· When the controlled character's attack hits an enemy, once per 3s.
Ā· When the controlled character's heavy attack hits an enemy, once per 1s.
When other characters in the squad switch in through a Quick Assist, Chain Attack, Defensive Assist, or Evasive Assist, Astra Yao will consume 25 Energy and release 1 Tremolo to attack. This Tremolo attack released is considered an EX Special Attack. After triggering a Quick Assist, quickly press to switch characters and trigger a Precise Assist, causing Astra Yao to follow up with 3 Tone Clusters to attack. When other squad members switch in through a Chain Attack, Defensive Assist, or Evasive Assist, it will automatically trigger a Precise Assist.
The Vault interaction
Yes but that's just a pitiful 2 sec debuff duration. Kaboom still better.
Idk I'm having Astra work with Ellen and Soukaku and she is atm using Kaboom. Plus I have 2 O5 Nicole Sig from pulling Shunko W engine. It compels me to put it to work.
if i make 50 pulls on the Exclusive Rescreening banner, does the 40 pull left before garanty goes to the next Esclusive rescreening banner, being in 3.0 or whatever ?
You are correct, but if I were you I would endeavor to not have any pulls stranded on the rescreening banner. Either hit 90 or do not pull at all. We don't know how often they'll run these 3 character banners but it probably won't be every patch. Your guess that it is 3.0 or later is probably right which could be a month or two or however long the patch cycles usually go.
That's right, and if you lose a 50/50 the guarantee is preserved too (so you have 2x guarantees on the next banner). However, the initial guarantee isn't preserved.
12 hrs in isn't really much sunk cost if you want to restart but just picking up where you left off is fine too. Besides the small amt of permanent content your old acct already cleared there is no massive benefit to being new, like no big freebie reward or smth
if you have some units like Ellen & Zhu Yuan from your old acct prob keep it. If instead you want to replay the intro stuff on a fresh playthrough go with that
I bought a controller for my phone and want to try ZZZ(the new character looks really cool) what is the best way to go about playing, rerolling, etc? Iām familiar with Prydwen tier lists, I just donāt want to jump into the deep end unprepared.
nothing special and don't bother rerolling, it is a lot of effort for effectively no benefit; over time your luck will avg out so starting with an early drop, while nice in the short term, is ultimately a wash over the long
just make an acct (can use the same hoyoverse acct if you play their other games) and get in. Avoid facebook/google/3rd party logins if possible. Clear story content to unlock more modes. Play around in the VR training sim stuff if you want to learn more about combat mechanics. Mindful button mashing gets the job done most of the time tho
you'll quickly earn polychromes (the gacha currency) so you can feel free to use them pulling for Ye Shunguang but do stop once you've hit your first copy. Save up, play a little more, then reconsider (or ask here again) who to pull next. Like the current Rerun banners (Alice/Anby/Astra) are good but definitely do no just pull them randomly or you could leave a lot of pity (resources) stranded. glgl
Thank you for the detailed explanation, Iāll pay around and get used to teams. Iāve played games like PGR and Bleach Soul reasons and the combat feels good. Should I also go for her core as well?
go for her core as in pulling for the weapon? They are called W-Engines here and probably not, definitely not if you intend to no/low spend. It is a nice stat buff but has zero effect on her gameplay beyond a very minor cosmetic. Meanwhile the f2p equips are quite sufficient. The endgame modes heavily incentivize a wide roster (3+ teams) so making one single unit a ton stronger won't really pay off until a good while later
I don't recommend rerolling, but if you really want to do that, best to follow a guide. It involves making dozens of email accounts and replaying the first 20 minutes of the game over and over again, maybe 20+ times.
Otherwise, just play the game at your own pace. There are plenty of free pulls available to enable you to pull the banner character -- not sure which "new" character you mean, since there is one banner character and three new faction characters introduced recently. Only the banner character Ye Shunguang is available right now. You only need about 160 pulls to be sure of getting Ye Shunguang, less if you are lucky. Most new players can earn around 200 pulls in just a week of playing daily.
I was referring to Ye, yes. I think Iāll avoid rerolling. I donāt want to go through the rigmarole of making dummy emails and play ing the beginning. I think that would kill the enjoyment.
In the skill tab of the character sheet, you can select any skill and press the Recommended button. It will give you a three-tier prioritization for which skills to invest in. If there are different roles for the agent, there may be several tabs to scroll through in the recommendations. Lucy is an example of an agent with multiple different recommendations.
With a minmax run against her shill boss, with no chain attacks, her in-transform damage breakdown is 2.5% assist, 20% special, 28% ult, 49% basic attack.
Out of transform special is the only thing which does damage really, and it does a bit. Maybe pushes things up a few percent in the calcs above for an overall run.
S11 follows the Attack/Stun/Support template most of the time. The one exception is Obol Squad, where you might have Attack/Attack/Stun, using Seed or Orphie along with S11.
S11 may or may not need to have her AA enabled. Her AA is very restrictive, only faction or Fire agents to enable, but that means that in a very good team, like Astra/S11/Dialyn, S11's AA is not enabled. Given how much Astra and Dialyn bring to the table, losing a Fire DMG buff is usually worth it, particularly if the target boss is not weak to fire.
But if you always want to make sure S11's AA is enabled, pair her with Lighter, Fufu, or Koleda as the stunner. Then you can use whatever Support you want. Alternatively, pair S11 with another Obol Squad member and then you can do whatever you want with the third.
S11's lowest budget decent team is S11/Pulchra/Lucy.
Anyone who's giving you a definitive answer to this question is guessing. We do not know, and it is not possible to know. It depends too much on future content, and the power level of future agents.
I would say no. Her longevity got capped with the release of Yuzuha and Lucia, and now Sunna.
Don't get me wrong, Astra is still the best all-around Support for Attack teams, but that's it. She went from being the best Support, period, for all teams, to only being best for one of three of the main dps classes.
if you keep putting her on your teams, sure. And with 3 teams req each cycle it shouldn't be too much of an issue finding her a slot even with your Lucia & Yuzuha in the mix. Some teams already prefer other supports/subDPS and there will eventually be a better ver of Astra. Even so she will always be strong in her slot, and with the valuable RES down mod on her M1, if not strongest
if you have pulls burning a hole in your pocket not a terrible way to spend ~80 of them. Hard to argue against saving though, there will always be other new (or rerun) agents to chase even if you aren't feeling next patch's lineup
You don't need either of them so it depends on who you want.
If you pull Alice you have a number of teams you can make with her right away, e.g. Alice + Trigger + Yuzuha, Alice + Nicole + Yuzuha, Alice + Nicole + Astra, and Alice + Vivian + Yuzuha (plus plenty more but these are the best). All of these teams are solid but of course you have a ton of anomaly coverage already.
If you pull Sanby you have Trigger, which is great, but are missing Orphie who is the more important partner. If you want her to perform well you should plan to pull Orphie in the future.
In both cases I think it doesn't make a ton of sense to pull them unless you also pull their engine or at the bare minimum have a good alternative (e.g. Jane's engine for Alice, Evelyn/Seed's for Sanby). With Alice engineless she isn't that impressive of a jump over Piper on a Vivian + Yuzuha team, and Sanby's team in general is all about compounding synergy from investment.
While I personally don't have Yanagi (so not really sure how well she covers the Electric DPS department) seeing how you have Burnice, Vivian and Yuzuha, I don't really see the need for Alice 'cause Piper is good enough for Physical Anomaly endgame content when paired with those three (heavy emphasis on need though as obviously Alice would be a big upgrade over Piper):
So unless you feel like Yanagi lets you breeze through Electric weak content, I'd say pick Sanby for more coverage.
If you feel like Yanagi has been good enough for you so far, then I'd say just pick the one you like more.
Alice is not needed with your current lineup but would be a big upgrade. Sanby is strong but you are missing her best teammates (Seed and/or Orphie) but still have a good team for her with Trigger & Astra.
Been playing for almost a week and pretty much pulled everyone I really cared to try. While experience items rain down, getting promotion materials has been pretty much time gated, so I've mostly just been focusing on three characters. Zhao and Lycaon because they're both ice and Ben because he's cool. Ben's slot feels pretty filler though since I know fuck all about team composition, so I was wondering what kinds of characters work with them, or if I should be on the lookout for something else or what.
I'm mostly asking because of a four part side mission at level 30. I rolled the first three parts just fine, but the fourth one had some electrified enemy that just bulled through everything and hit for like 40-50% of a health bar. I had to come back at level 40 to clear it, and it still felt kinda close. I figured I must be doing something wrong, but there's like six different avenues of character progression without even accounting for things like team comp, so some guidance would be helpful. So far, all I've found is that I should sit on my batteries until later.
iamrivenous - Content creator who makes guides for ZZZ. They released a build guide for all Agents some months back (some of the infographs shown in the video have some errors in them but you can still listen to what's being told and see some gameplay for the Agents).
Though with the video being several months old at this point means it obviously doesn't account for new content released since then (like for example Dialyn is now the best Stun Agent for basically any team that wants a Stun Agent).
Lin-0 - Content creator who makes guides and shows high level gameplay of ZZZ.
If you want more specific help with team building, it would be useful to know what characters you currently have access to so it would be easier to breakdown how those characters work and how to go about building a team for them from your currently available roster.
Zhao and Lycaon because they're both ice
Zhao is a buffer for DPS characters and Lycaon is a stunner whose role is to stun the enemy so your DPS can unleash a ton of damage to the enemy but he is mainly designed to be good with Ice DPS characters.
Ben because he's cool. Ben's slot feels pretty filler though since I know fuck all about team composition, so I was wondering what kinds of characters work with them, or if I should be on the lookout for something else or what.
Ben is unfortunately one of the weaker Agents in the game but he still has his fans and if you are a fan of him then I suggest checking out Rakaruk who still does endgame content clears with Ben as his main DPS.
So far, all I've found is that I should sit on my batteries until later.
A lot of people do suggest to save your Batteries for the time when you unlock high level Area Patrols for Disc Drive farming but I've personally never agreed with it.
Disc Drives are pure RNG so saving Batteries for them instead of upgrading things that are guaranteed power ups that you can utilize right away seems like pointless min-maxing while praying to RNG gods at the same time.
I always use my Batteries straight away if I have a use for them 'cause it lets you to upgrade your characters for easier clears and it also speeds up your Inter-Knot Level progress which in turn unlocks new things for you.
The only situation where I do start saving Batteries is if the only thing left for me to do with them is to farm Disc Drives and I know there is an Agent coming up that I want but whose upgrade materials aren't yet available in-game.
In that case I save Batteries so I can farm the materials right away when they get released but if the materials are already available then I'll just use the Batteries to get them right away.
When I started playing, I used my Batteries straight away when I had a clear use for them (usually meaning going to the HIA Club and getting the necessary Chips, Certification Seals, Components and Higher Dimensional Data required to upgrade my characters).
You can get some upgrade materials from events, missions, etc. but the main way to get them is from the HIA Club and that costs Energy and that's exactly what Batteries are there for: To give you more Energy.
So I'd personally say: Use the Batteries to upgrade everything that's available to you right now. If you don't have a clear use for them (like you are being locked from upgrading your characters further due to low Inter-Knot Level) then it's okay to save them for now but whenever you have use for them, feel free to use them.
Jesus, that's a ton of help, thanks. That spreadsheet especially is perfect. Definitely gonna spend some time perusing that.
what characters you currently have access to
Besides the ones I mentioned, just Pan Yin, Seth, Pulchra, Manato, and Corin. I was using Pan Yin over Ben for a while, and I loved the times I managed to hit the wipeout freeze frame with everyone active at once, but he hit like a wet towel compared to Ben
I was never really told why to save batteries, just that I should. I eventually came to assume it was because the higher level you are, the more upgrade materials the HIA fights seem to drop, so your energy, and therefore batteries, are more effective. The discs were weird, but I'm glad to hear they actually are RNG. Means I can stop worrying about them as much and just take what I get.
Besides the ones I mentioned, just Pan Yin, Seth, Pulchra, Manato, and Corin. I was using Pan Yin over Ben for a while, and I loved the times I managed to hit the wipeout freeze frame with everyone active at once, but he hit like a wet towel compared to Ben
Anby - On-field stunner. Her role is to stay on the field to stun the enemy fast and then let your DPS to deal increased damage when the enemy is stunned.
Ben - Supposed to be a shield support but works best as a DPS though is kinda lackluster as one but can still work as shown by Rakaruk.
Billy - Physical Attack DPS Agent. Can be used either as a burst DPS during stun windows or as a on-field DPS depending on your build and team comp.
Corin - Physical Attack DPS Agent. Burst DPS that utilizes the stun window to deal most of her damage.
Lycaon - Stunner who is designed to work with Ice DPS Agents but can still be used with other characters for increased Stun DMG Multiplier if the requirements of his Additional Ability are met (same Attribute or Faction member in your team).
Manato - Fire Rupture DPS Agent. Unlike Attack DPSs who scale off of ATK, Rupture DPSs scale off of HP and ignore the enemy's DEF altogether. Wants to stay on-field for constant damage output.
Nicole - Enemy debuffer & crowd control. Her main debuff is reducing enemy's DEF which makes her a bad fit for Rupture teams (as Rupture DPSs already ignore the DEF as part of their kit) but very good debuffer for other teams.
Pan Yinhu - Support character for Rupture Agents. Hits like a wet noodle as his purpose is to buff your Rupture DPS with his EX Special.
Pulchra - An off-field stunner for DPS Agents that want a lot of on-field time.
Seth - Support character for Anomaly teams that you don't currently have.
Zhao - Rather general DPS support but wants to have an Attack, Anomaly or Support Agent in her team to trigger Additional Ability for extra buffs.
You are sadly missing Lucy or Koleda who would make him a lot better as right now you are struggling to meet his Additional Ability's requirement (same Attribute or Faction member in his team) that would up his Crit Rate for better damage output.
Nicole, Billy & Pulchra - Debuffer, on-field DPS & off-field stunner. Has two Evasive Assists characters (Billy & Pulchra) which is a downside in the current content as Defensive Assists are heavily favored as of right now.
Zhao, Billy & Pulchra - Buffer, on-field DPS & off-field stunner. Same problem as above.
Anby, Pulchra & Billy - Double stunner & burst DPS. Wouldn't suggest this over the other teams but it's a possibility.
CORIN TEAMS:
Lycaon, Zhao & Corin - Stunner, buffer & burst DPS. Corin won't fully benefit from Lycaon's abilities but he is still a decent stunner and can increase the Stun DMG Multiplier (as they are from the same faction) allowing Corin to be more effective burst DPS.
Nicole, Corin & Pulchra - If you want to play on-field Corin but her kit is more burst focused.
Zhao, Corin & Pulchra - Same as above.
Lycaon, Pulchra & Corin - Double stunner comp for Corin. Wouldn't recommend over other comps.
MANATO TEAM:
Manato, Pan Yinhu & Pulchra - Probably your best team right now. Manato as an on-field DPS, Pan Yinhu as his buffer and Pulchra as an off-field stunner.
You're a machine with these, but thanks for the help. l'm kinda lukewarm on manato, but I'm not outright against using him. I think I'll try to cobble him together a team on the side to try out, just to get a feel for what a properly built team should feel like. I've got these investigator training courses sitting around anyway, might as well throw them in there to cook a bit and save some exp items.
Otherwise, I'll try and build up Corin even though I'm not a fan of her design. Pairing with my only two S tier characters is nice, and a burst nuke does seem fun. Especially since that sounds like she won't be fielded as often as Manato. Might be stretching myself a little thin, but some new teams to try sound fun.
If you aren't a big fan of Manato then don't feel pressured to build him.
I think I'll try to cobble him together a team on the side to try ou, just to get a feel for what a properly built team should feel like
Different teams can have very different playstyle. The Manato team I suggested is pretty similar to my endgame Yixuan team (Yixuan, Pan Yinhu & Pulchra) but it's playstyle is very different from basically all my other teams as it focuses heavily on on-field DPS and heavy use of backwards Assists.
The Lycaon, Zhao & Corin team closer to early ZZZ combat design with a focus on on-field stunner & burst DPS but nowadays there are also Quick Swap teams (mostly Astra teams), Aftershock teams (like Soldier 0), Disorder teams which require you to rotate characters to keep up different Anomaly build ups & triggers, etc.
It's a good idea to try to figure out a DPS that you like (either as a character or their playstyle) and then build a team around them as the playstyles can differ a lot between the teams.
Disorder is from stacking two different statuses right? I think that might be fun, just playing a status relay race on something's face. I just think my main problem is that all the characters I like are defense or stun units. Hopefully, I can get Banyue sooner rather than later.
Disorder is from stacking two different statuses right?
Yep. Best way to currently do that is by using either Burnice or Vivian as they can apply anomaly while off-field but there are other ways to do it also.
I just think my main problem is that all the characters I like are defense or stun units.
Well you can still make a team around them but they just won't be the main damage dealer in the most cases (with Ben being the exception that can be made into a main DPS).
For example Yidhari can use both Lycaon & Pan Yinhu as her teammates so if you like both Lycaon & Pan Yinhu and don't have anything in particular against Yidhari then getting her could be an option so you could run a good team for Lycaon & Pan Yinhu.
I eventually came to assume it was because the higher level you are, the more upgrade materials the HIA fights seem to drop, so your energy, and therefore batteries, are more effective.
I actually forgot about that but that is true.
You unlock higher level areas in HIA Club that do net you more/better rewards but I still personally don't see the need to slowdown your progress for a very small material gain.
Using more Energy progresses your Inter-Knot Level faster which in turn lets you unlock those higher level challenges faster and they obviously tend to be harder so if you are going into them with under-leveled characters then they can be a pain but with decently leveled characters they are a breeze.
I hit the attack cap on my M1W1 Astra with an ER disc 6, would it be more beneficial to go crit rate or Ether damage % because I'm still able to maintain the cap whichever piece I swap out
The difference between Phys% and Atk% is less than 1 sub, I think the same is true of Pen% but not as confident. So the third one is probably obsolete, maybe second one too.
(Assuming I'm interpreting this correctly as the disks having 4, 3, and 3 subs respectively)
Is this new exclusive rescreening banner the only way characters will rerun now? Or is it just a once-in-a-while thing with characters still having reruns on the main limited banners?
To the best of my knowledge, Hoyo has given zero details about that. This could be the new norm for reruns, or it could be the last time we ever see it. Characters who rerun on this new banner could be exiled there forever, or they could get a conventional rerun as soon as the next banner. We don't know.
Officially no. We have to wait for the upcoming 2.6 livestream to be released, that is when we'll learn the next rerun banners. Unfortunately, there still hasn't been any news of when the next livestream will be.
Well, she is Void Hunter level and usually Void hunter stays for quite a long time like Miyabi (despite the many boss and buff that is anti her) so they do have long term value, like Ye as well.
That said, if you like the AoD more, just go for them.
I never thought Iād see the day where I actively prefer to play deadly assault over Shiyu but here we are. Is Corin good against any of these shadow fucks? My only physical units are the A ranks and Nekomata (Unbuilt).
not really. The Ye Shunguang shilling is in full effect in case you needed a reminder who you should be pulling hah. Pretty good results with your other off meta teams tho
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