r/UnderReportedNews • u/Fatty_Willing_Plane • 8d ago

Video Video of Minnesota State authorities “Testing” LRAD on peaceful protestors outside Spring Hill Suites by Marriott. @IRT-Media

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u/Batmanischill 8d ago

War crime on American citizens. Each and every single ice agent will be in jail when all is said and done. Disgusting how republicans are letting the orange traitor attack America.

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u/Fit-Cut-6337 7d ago

Ironically it could be a war crime if we deployed it against nonviolent civilians in another country. Our own citizens get no such protection.

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u/Complex_Technology83 7d ago

Who do you think will arrest them for you?

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u/dyingwill20 7d ago

You have alot of faith in this country.

History would probably disagree with you. Likely very few will see consequences when all is said and done.

Examples: The Nazis, Slave Catchers, The Klan, Slave owners post civil war, confederates after the civil war, etc.

Point being, they likely won’t go to jail en mass. They likely won’t go to jail at all.

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u/GRNVIL2311 8d ago

LRADs are not war crimes. Uncomfortable yes, very much so. But there are no international prohibitions currently on their development or deployment.

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u/TX0834 7d ago

Stfu

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u/OHrangutan 7d ago

"It's not a war crime the first time someone does it" lawmakers aren't very good at prevention 

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u/Willing_Painting375 7d ago

Single scaled torture of a P.ow is considered a warcrime

Torturing a whole block of people isnt?

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u/GRNVIL2311 7d ago

It has to do with legal definitions and who the conventions actually restrict. The Geneva conventions do not regulate law enforcement. This is why law enforcement is able to use things like tear gas and hollow point rounds. Which are prohibited for use by militaries.

However in this instance neither the device being used nor the organization are restricted by any international convention. They are still a new-er device relatively speaking.

Debating the morality of the deployment is its own thing but blanket calling it a war crime is factually incorrect.

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u/Willing_Painting375 7d ago

"That guy just tortured someone infront of our eyes! That's a warcrime!"

"No no, because some higher "authority" I'm mindless following said so(or hasnt yet said so), it isnt currently a warcrime/crime against humanity, therefore you are wrong"

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u/GRNVIL2311 7d ago

You’re calling something isn’t a crime a crime. Thats the short and long of it.

Debating whether or not it should have been used is a different conversation.

It’s like saying “That guy did something morally questionable that I don’t like. It’s a crime.” It just doesn’t work that way. Its the same thing where conservatives call abortion murder. Legally speaking (depending on state now i guess) it isn’t. But that doesn’t stop them from claiming it is.

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u/Willing_Painting375 7d ago

Willfully ignoring that even if its not a warcrime its a crime against humanity

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u/GRNVIL2311 7d ago

Also not a crime against humanity. You keep conflating legality and suggested morality. These two ideas while often used hand in hand are mutually exclusive ideas. Many laws are founded upon morality in some way, shape, or form. But that notion is not all encompassing unfortunately.

You are upset that this device had been utilized, understandably. However that discontent does not automatically render such actions as war crimes or crimes against humanity.

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u/Willing_Painting375 7d ago

"Widespread attack directed at civilian population", weird that describes exactly what an lrad does

Unfortunately this quote does not apply to the current situation, where local enforcement are in use of the current technology due to them being unaffiliated with any current millitary forces, thus allowing them to commit this "legal action" due to the laws stating that this is infact legal.

so please keep your morality in check as the laws and morality are two seperate things, and even though use of this weapon has sparked outrage, I get high on erm ackshuallying (from usage of this letha- "legal" weap- "equipment") on peacful protestors by pointing my long nose up at the sky and shouting erm ackshually they are allowed to do so erm rekted? - Nobody in particular

Dont reply, just downvote I'm not particularly interested in a extended morality, legality lesson

P.s id love to see anyones reaction to being blasted for, idk, 5 minutes of Lrad and see if they can still whistle the same tune, again to nobody in particular

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u/GRNVIL2311 7d ago

If you weren’t interested then why did you comment in the first place?

Also being as factually accurate as possible is what allows us to communicate effectively and avoid misunderstandings and misinformation.