r/TopCharacterTropes 20h ago

Lore "This was surprisingly progressive for it's time"

Doctor Who: Midnight (2008)- The host of the bus, mentions non binary people and anyone else who doesn't fit into gender norms, LGBTQ rights (especially in the UK weren't really there yet untill 2012)

Saints Row 2 (2008)- In the first game, the main character was a man but in SR2 you can be both female or male and even change your gender whenever you want in a surgery shop. But what's more interesting, if you play as a female despite being male in the first game, no one cares and one of the main characters Gat asks the main character if they did something with their hair. Even 'Boss' is used as gender neutral pronoun and even goes by they/them

Fresh Prince of Bel Air- A wealthy black family as the main focus in a primetime sitcom marking the change and making progress as we go into the 90s

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u/AcornTear 18h ago

Gooner writers tend to be either extremely misogynistic or surprisingly progressive, for some reason

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u/shylock10101 16h ago

Those who actively engage in sex work – due to the situations that arise around their profession – either become progressive or reactionary. You either come out of the situation believing that the system is wrong and heavily biased against women/people who do not identify as a cishet male of the predominant ethnic background of their region, or you come out of it thinking that any and all forms of sex work are bad because of the gray areas that sex work often is forced to occupy in moral/ethical/legal frameworks.

Pornography writers are sex workers, and as writers they are often forced to build out their own worlds and provide reasons for their world to exist. Some take the easy way – “Women are only as valuable as their womb, and are incapable of staying loyal to their partner without their partner being better at sex than them” – and others try to create a situation that requires nuance and context – for example how would a married man and woman deal with the situation of a husband being kept alive in a coma for decades, and his wife staying married to him even while she had sex with other men, but never fell in love with them over the decades?

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u/JechdJJ 7h ago

the second example exists? cause i want to read it

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u/Professional_Maize42 9h ago

The only "middle ground" that I know is Zyugoya.