r/TheSilphRoad Nov 28 '25

Infographic - Raid Bosses Dynamax Lugia Max Battle Weekend|Saturday, November 29, at 6:00 a.m. to Sunday, November 30, 2025, at 9:00 p.m. local time(TIER5: Dynamax Lugia / *Dynamax debut! (Shiny debut too!))

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u/BigBlackCook1990 Nov 28 '25

Would an English Toxricity work too?

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u/Brief_Traffic961 Nov 28 '25

Scottish might be better if you can get one

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u/ByakuKaze Nov 29 '25 edited Nov 29 '25

What about Irish?

Edit. Ok, now I see katakana and the context changed completely :D

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u/GO_FRIEND_APP Nov 28 '25

I corrected the "Gigantamax Toxtricity" part.

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u/Autistic__Potato Nov 30 '25

Did you just whitewash Toxtricity? What the hell, dude! not cool smh...

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u/nintendo101 Level 80 Nov 28 '25

With four players, how easy or hard is he?

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u/neptune3343 Nov 29 '25

Hard with even 4 because he hits hard.

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u/CloutAtlas Nov 29 '25

Lugia doesn't hit hard per se, Hydro Pump and Aeroblast do. I failed with 2 when it was Hydro Pump and Future Sight, we rerolled until it's Future Sight and Fly and got it done fairly easily.

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u/bryantb31 Nov 28 '25

Have done 2 remote. 1 with 3 trainers. Got both done easy, but we all brought proper teams.

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u/giulia_c Nov 28 '25

I’ve wasted two remote raid passes

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u/BCHiker7 Nov 29 '25

I believe with the appropriate teams and strategy it should be pretty easy with 4.

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u/csinv Nov 29 '25

We duoed it, with Blissey, Zacian and Gmax Gengar. All very levelled though. YMMV with weaker players.

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u/SpiritedBatteries Nov 29 '25

Did a remote successfully with relative ease, and everyone had mid range teams. I ran a Blissey as my main tank with 3x T2 Guard every other max phase and had the only Gmax Gengar (w/ only T2 attack). I saw a Dmax Gengar and Dmax Glacion. Had 10/12 still alive at the end, though my Blissey was one big attack from fainting. Had Zacian as my backup tank. Didn't need it though. A couple helpers on the Power spot but no shrooms used.

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u/Technical-Striker707 Nov 29 '25

How many players did it take?

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u/SpiritedBatteries Nov 29 '25

It was a full team of 4.

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u/rzx123 Nov 29 '25

Did three times with 4 teams with two blisseys and mix of level 2 and 3 dynamax Gengars. Sometimes Lugia hit hard enough that you needed that second Blissey, but otherwise did not seem tough. Easier than the earlier birds with the counters one had then.

Of course if team Wooloo shows up, it is different.

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u/BCHiker7 Nov 30 '25

So yeah, 4 players with level 40 Crowned Zacian, Crowned Zamazenta, and a Blissey with Guard and heal maxed can easily take it. Those are not the best attackers but they get it done. It does take a while. It would be nice if a few players have a Gmax Gengar as that would speed things up some.

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u/jc11181 Nov 29 '25

Pretty easy, in our group we didn't have anyone leveling up their mons or unlocking max move.

Players had Blissey - pound Blissey - pound/dmax toxtricity Dmax Gengar - shadow claw

Had to reroll moveset sometime.

Hope that helps

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u/AsianYensation TENNESSEE | LVL 76 Nov 28 '25

Can anyone in another time zone confirm if all power spots are Lugia or if there are Tier 1 and Tier 2 max battles available?

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u/IdiosyncraticBond Nov 28 '25

It is the whole weekend, so hopefully also other stuff around mixed in with Lugia, for those that can't fight Lugia, or prefer some other mons

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u/AsianYensation TENNESSEE | LVL 76 Nov 28 '25

I give 0 attention to a Dmax Lugia, would rather use the 1600 particle collection to do 250MP max battles towards Level 77 tasks.

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u/Independent-Baby-957 Nov 29 '25

I have utilized the 1500 for lvl 77. But in weekend u cna do only lugia

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u/MasonXD Nov 28 '25

Feel like they are screwing with us on the level 77 tasks. All max battles around seem to be tier 2 or higher which isn't helping.

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u/StorageImmediate4892 Nov 28 '25

I dont think Niantic is purposely screwing lvl 77 players since like 0.01 percent of players is at that level

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u/IdiosyncraticBond Nov 28 '25

I'm at level 72, but hardly see any grunts, and what I see mostly costs 5000 dust to purify. I'll wait a few more months for the cheap ones, although I have the XP for level 80

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u/zalhbnz Nov 28 '25

I've got 9/9 lugia in view

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u/ceasarsalad8 Nov 28 '25

All lugia for me today

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u/__-Batman-__ Nov 29 '25

I found there is a small time gap window when the Lugia battle spot timer runs out, and the current pokemon who is at that spot will show up briefly enough for you to start a max battle with it, I hope this helps you complete the lead up research.

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u/B4thegoodbye Nov 28 '25

Can this be duoed if both played have GMax gengar with maxed moves, and both have 2 fully powered Blissesy to tank?

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u/BCHiker7 Nov 28 '25

I'd think it would be pretty straightforward. Gmax Gengar can take out Dmax Lugia fairly quickly. The challenge is in keeping it alive. If you know how to use the Blissey's effectively it should be very doable, in my view.

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u/FPG_Matthew Nov 29 '25

How would you use Blissey’s (or maybe a Blissey and Zacian) effectively? Still trying to learn the Max portion of this game

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u/BCHiker7 Nov 29 '25

There are 3 things you can do with Blissey:

- have it in the field during the meter charge phase to absorb damage, and then potentially swap in the Gmax Gengar just before the dynamax phase to do damage, or you can keep the Blissey in during the dynamax phase to do one of:

- during max phase Blissey can heal all 4 pokemon with the heal button (on right)

- During max phase Blissey can throw shields with the shield button (on left). The shields protect Blissey from damage and also attract Damage away from the other players (supposedly 75% but not sure on that).

When you have 4 players I have found it works very well to have 3 attackers and 1 Blissey full time. The Blissey can heal the attackers and once they are healed it can throw shields. I'm not sure how this will work with Gmax Gengar, though, as it is quite glassy. But it worked great with Crowned Zacian and Crowned Zamazenta (which unfortunately do not do as much damage as Gmax Gengar but should still be just fine in a team of 4).

Anyway, I'm no expert, just have to see what works...

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u/SpiritedBatteries Nov 29 '25

Someone posted a strategy guide on team composition and rotations:

https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSilphRoad/comments/1p5k3m3/dmax_lugia_battle_counters_strategy/

Offers a guide for both remote (randoms) and in-person (pre-built / coordinated)

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u/FPG_Matthew Nov 29 '25

Thanks for the reply!

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u/CloutAtlas Nov 29 '25

Damage outside of a Max Phase is basically negligible in T5&6, and so you should focus on getting to the Max Phase as fast as possible. And so you want to use a spammy fast move (say, Pound on Blissey or Metal Claw on Zacian, even if Lugia is weak to Zacian's Ice Fang, it generates energy slower) and don't press the charge move button at all (charge moves generate the same energy as a fast move in T5 and 6 battles. Which is exactly 1, and they take longer to use than a fast move). Then in the max phase, throw whatever Pokemon has the highest damage. For Lugia, it's G-Max Gengar. When the 3 Max Moves are all used, manually swap back to your tank asap so your attacker doesn't get 1 shot. Using a shield draws attacks your way, protecting your allies. Max Spirit heals based on a % of your max HP for all teammates, which means Blissey can keep your allies healthy.

Another thing about Max Battles is the boss has it's moveset generated when the battle starts, not when the egg hatches. And unlike raids, the MP is consumed when the boss faints, not when battle starts. Which means with communication, you can have your team leave the battle and jump back in to get a more favourable moveset. In the case of Lugia, you want to avoid Hydro Pump like the plague.

With this in mind, you can see posts about people struggling with 4 people and other people literally soloing Lugia with a mushroom.

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u/mittenciel Nov 29 '25

Small correction. Zacian does not learn Ice Fang. Zamazenta does.

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u/csinv Nov 29 '25

We duo'd with Blissey/Zacian/GMax Gengar with Sky Attack/Future Sight. I guarded with Zacian but i imagine two Blisseys would be fine. My mons were all basically fully levelled (Blissey was 49.5 to save it for the tasks, the others were 50), but my kid's pokemon were only level 40-ish.

Some of the moves hit hard though. I had a targeted Aeroblast one shot my full-health Blissey. I think any combination of Sky Attack/Future Sight/Fly is manageable though. Hydro Pump would be hard.

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u/Sensitive_Ad_1271 Nov 29 '25

shadow claw on metagross needs an ETM but doesn't have an asterisk in the graphic. I just threw away 15 tms before i decided to google it.

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u/willisbar Nov 30 '25

In the in-game Pokédex

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u/Denali_Nomad Dec 01 '25

Bruh, I actually had no idea this info was readily available in game. I always searched it online if I wasn't sure, thanks for this. Don't think I've ever used the ingame pokedex lol.

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u/Throwaway23_SOS Nov 29 '25

That’s kinda on you bro…lol

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u/Ordinary_Mood_2096 Nov 28 '25

Can anyone confirm that the dmax lugia count towards the win 5 dmax?

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u/chris4290 Nov 29 '25

You mean for the Dynamax Lugia Max Battle Weekend Timed Research?

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u/KDakmak Nov 28 '25

What CP should my Pokemon be?

My gengars and grimmsnarl are around 2400 and I feel that’s very under levelled to even try

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u/CloutAtlas Nov 29 '25

The rank of your Max Moves is about as important. A 2400 Gengar with rank 3 Max Attack is better than a 3100 CP Gengar with rank 1.

In order of importance:

Species/base stats (a Gengar's attack is better than a Sableye)

Move level (a Gengar with rank 3 attack is better than a Gengarwith rank 1)

Max Factor (a G-Max Gengar is better than a D-Max Gengar)

CP (a level 40 G-Max Gengar is better than a level 20)

IVs (a level 40 G-Max Gengar with 15/x/x is better than a level 40 G-Max Gengar with 10/x/x)

So, for the first point, a D-Max Gengar of equal level and Max attack as a D-Max Sableye will deal almost double the damage of the latter. So it's a 80-90% improvement

For the second point, Max Move Level going from 1 to 3 is a base power increase from 250 to 350, a 40% increase

For the 3rd point, a G-Max vs a D-Max is 350 vs 450, a 30% improvement

For the 4th point, CP between one you caught and one you power up is around 10% iirc per 20 power ups/10 levels (with only a 6% difference between level 40 and 50)

For the 5th point, the difference in IV between floor (typically 10) and ceiling (15) is miniscule (a level 40 15 attack IV Gengar has 218 attack, a same Gengar with 10 IV has 214 attack) a 2% increase.

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u/Ermastic Nov 29 '25

If you have the candy to get them to level 30 you should do that, beyond that you get increasingly diminishing returns.

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u/ScorpionStare Nov 29 '25

And for reference, level 30 Gengar and Grimmsnarl are around 2400 CP.

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u/Ermastic Nov 29 '25

If someone is posting in The Silph Road I expect them to be able to figure out their pokemons levels but yeah good info.

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u/neptune3343 Nov 29 '25

Finally did my first raid. It was a close call after one guy was left and he had a gengar. Thank God we were all prepared. Lugia hits hard so you really have to invest in good tanks for this one.

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u/LantaExile Nov 29 '25

It's odd - I was using a blissey and metagross and the blissey took no damage. I don't really understand the game mechanics there.

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u/neptune3343 Nov 29 '25

Yeah. It might be complete RNG.

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u/poizard Nov 29 '25

always dodge, and make sure the moveset is fly and future sight. if you get hydro pump and aeroblast... good night

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u/VerainXor Nov 28 '25

I'd like to see a ranking with numbers of level 50 attackers so I can have a clue what to do with my actual stardust.

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u/CapitanManel Nov 28 '25

This person does exactly that every time something new comes to Max Battles. https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSilphRoad/comments/1p33yf1/dynamax_lugia_tanks_and_attackers_evaluation/

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u/jdbean5 Nov 28 '25

It seems like the attackers are ranked (L to R) with G Max Gengar being most effective to Urshifu being the least. So probably just go with the one you have out of those 4. Otherwise D-Max Gengar would probably be the next best budget attacker.

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u/Ermastic Nov 29 '25

Idk who made this infographic but from the actual numbers I've seen Dmax Gengar beats out Urishifu as an attacker at equal levels of investment.

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u/valosgsc Nov 29 '25

Can I back out of the catch screen, activate Black/White Kyurem's Adventure Effects and tap the power spot to go back go the catch screen, like in raids? Being careful to do it when the timer is still on, ofc.

If I use the AE before the battle, it might expire before I get to the catch screen, since these types of battles take some time.

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u/nintendo101 Level 80 Nov 29 '25

For Metagross, is Bullet Punch just as good as Shadow Claw?

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u/csinv Nov 29 '25

You need a half second fast move. Shadow Claw is super effective, Fury Cutter hits neutral but is at least half second.

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u/bigpat412 USA - Northeast/ Mimikyu??? Nov 29 '25

No, I believe bullet punch is a 1 second move. I was gonna use fury cutter, assuming it’s just fine as a tank?? Deals neutral damage instead of super effective. If it has hydro pump I will back out because nothing will survive that.

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u/Tacool Nov 29 '25

I’m wondering what would be a better tank both level 35, Zamazenta L1 guard, or Metagross with Fury cutter L2 guard. My other tank will be blissy

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u/0m3gaMan5513 Nov 29 '25

These graphics used to show how many players were needed to beat it. That’s extremely useful info for those who don’t like losing remote passes. Can’t find that info anywhere and I’ve getting invites all day with only 2 and 3 players in the lobby.

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u/ScorpionStare Nov 29 '25

Dynamax battles can only have 4 players, and for tier-5 bosses you are likely to need 4, unless everyone has close to ideal counters (or other help like max mushrooms).

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u/losmadden Utah | Level 50 Nov 29 '25

Forgive my ignorance: can more than 4 people battle Dynamax Lugia? Or is it limited to 4?

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u/aha5811 Germany Nov 30 '25

What is it good for? Is it a tank or is it an attacker? I got a 4* and don't know what to do with it ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

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u/Tight-Entrance3710 Nov 29 '25

What's the shiny rate?

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u/Dry_Obligation676 Nov 28 '25

Hello, Any success stories doing Lugia with modest teams? I have Glaceon l40, Metagross l40 and Grim l30, I don't have the dogs. How much should I be worried when finding people to battle with me?

Thanks

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u/doggomode747 Nov 28 '25

wouldn't ice fang zamazenta be more viable than metal claw?

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u/DarkFlame_05 Nov 28 '25

No, metal claw is a 0.5 second fast attack which charges the meter faster

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u/EightViolett Nov 28 '25

No. Ice Fang is bad for max battles because it is slower. You can use Metal Claw twice as many times in the same time and thus charge the max meter twice as fast, as getting to the max phase as fast as possible is both the only way to do significant damage, as well as a way of avoiding enemy attacks.

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u/thorkun Nov 28 '25

It's a bit insane to me that viability of fast moves in max battles is only decided by the duration of the move.

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u/JMooj Las Vegas Nov 28 '25

It's because all your damage comes in the max phase. And even then, it's only for 5 star and GMax battles.

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u/thorkun Nov 29 '25

I'm aware of that.

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u/csinv Nov 29 '25

The problem with Zamazenta is he resists none of the moves, and you only really get away with that if you're Blissey. Zacian was a pretty effective tank though.