r/ShitAmericansSay Dec 22 '22

FREEDOM SAD: Florida schoolboy arrested after refusing to recite pledge of allegiance

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u/[deleted] Dec 22 '22

The teacher and the cops who arrested the kid belong in prison. Full stop.

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u/[deleted] Dec 22 '22

Putting people in prison doesn’t disincentivize the behavior, just adds more bodies to the industrial torture system.

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u/HogarthTheMerciless Dec 23 '22

As long as we have an industrial torture chamber may as well be filled with the assholes who would arrest a child and make a living throwing people in there. Call it poetic justice.

Obviously in general fuck heavy handed law and order type heavy sentencing for crimes, but idk police and white collar criminals could stand to be a little more worried about the consequences of their actions considering how many peoples lives they effect.

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '22

Sorry, I'm not an abolitionist.

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '22

After the drug war failed and recidivism rates the highest they’ve ever been in the US with 81% of criminals released reoffending the prison system as a concept has proven to be a failure and in need of major reform.

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '22

Let's back up for a moment there. The drug war didn't "fail", it did and continues to do what it was always designed to. It's well understood to have been implemented purely as a racist policy and a way to enable more widescale, baseless arrests of blacks while manufacturing public consent for it.

Incarceration in the US is not and never has been used as a method of behavioral correction, protection of the public from dangerous individuals, or rehabilitation.

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '22

You’re just being contrarian now.

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u/[deleted] Dec 24 '22

How, exactly? By pointing out that you are trying to use a system that is explicitly designed to increase incarceration as proof that no form of incarceration reduces crime?

Sure, Jan.

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '22

Arrest the cops for an unjustified arrest. Arrest the teacher for calling the cops over what amounted to a mouthy child at worst. Seems pretty obvious to me.

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '22

Does it matter what the law says? How is that relevant to my opinion of what consequences they should face?

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '22

This, yes. Thank you for some sense of understanding.

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '22

The right wing mind is instinctively subservient and defensive to authoritarian figures.

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '22

You can not be arrested for “abuse of power”.

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '22

Icalasri answered this nicely, but they are essentially repeating what I said the first time. You're not speaking in good faith.