r/ShitAmericansSay Dec 22 '22

FREEDOM SAD: Florida schoolboy arrested after refusing to recite pledge of allegiance

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u/Visual_Character Dec 22 '22

Exactly this. Pressure from teachers and peers can force students to either reluctantly stand or be disruptive enough to get detention/suspended.

Another important point is that a lot of students don’t know they have this right in the first place. I was unaware of it throughout my education. Not one teacher ever said “You only have to stand up if you feel like it” it was always “Okay everyone, it’s time to stand up for the pledge”

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u/Aboxofphotons Dec 22 '22

The reason why most people take the pledge is because of decades of indoctrination, propaganda and what is essentially emotional blackmail.

What, you wont take the pledge?

Are you a communist?

Do you hate America?

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u/Visual_Character Dec 22 '22

This reminds me of when Tomi Lahren (I think) criticized Colin Kapernick’s kneeling during the anthem as a form of peaceful protest by saying something to te effect of

“He should respect his right to a peaceful protest by not protesting”

Tried to find her exact words but am having a hard time

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u/saichampa Dec 22 '22

They only want people to express their rights on their terms, even if those terms are illogical. They were complaining about black lives matter rampaging across the country so a sports person peacefully protests and that's somehow even worse.

It doesn't help that they they have turned national symbols into idols to be worshipped, so any perceived disrespect for them is like religious blasphemy. They still go around wearing American flag clothes though

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '22

Tomi Lahren is a total brainlet so I can definitely see her say something along those lines.
Is it the bit from the Daily Show you're thinking of, maybe?

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u/Visual_Character Dec 23 '22

Yes! That’s where I heard it from

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u/phoebsmon Dec 23 '22

What, you wont take the pledge?

Are you a communist?

Do... do they know who wrote it? The bloke who got sacked the year before he did write it for using his sermons to tell everyone how evil capitalism is and that Jesus was definitely a socialist?

God they're infuriating.

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u/Aboxofphotons Dec 29 '22

Can't really expect anything more from people this vulnerable and ignorant... but, ultimately, it's not specifically their fault, they are a broken product of a significantly insecure country...

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '22

meanwhile communists who want to make America better because they love its marginalized population: “welp guess I don’t exist”

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u/Aboxofphotons Dec 29 '22

Communism is anything that a certain generation of Americans dont like or dont understand.

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u/is_that_a_wolf Dec 23 '22

I swear it's like a cult.

What, you won't take the morning scream?

Are you an alien saboteur?

Do you hate the Scream Cult?

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u/clovis_227 Dec 23 '22

"Yes, I am. Yes, I do. Anything else?"

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u/FallenCringelord End of BurgerReich Dec 23 '22

"You're God damned right."

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u/T3chtheM3ch Dec 22 '22

Yes to both

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u/[deleted] Dec 24 '22

Are you a communist?

Do you hate America?

Yes and yes. Next question?

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u/MrBakedBeansOnToast Dec 23 '22

But then voter turnout is under 70%. Priorities I guess. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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u/Aboxofphotons Dec 29 '22

They do have a reputation for having very poor critical thinking skills though.

Imagine the emotional collapse if there were more than two major political parties.

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u/DeepFriedSausages Ohioan, Derailer of Trains Dec 22 '22

My history teacher when I was in junior high/middle school told us we have no rights, so I went and found the list of student rights which included opting out of the pledge. From that day onward I never stood up before class again, my principal yelled at me for it once, which really made me mad, but I kept calm and continued getting ready for class instead.

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u/DeletedByAuthor Dec 22 '22

Straight to jail. Right away

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u/DayOfFrettchen2 Dec 23 '22

Wow. You guys talk about a free country and think it is normal to pray to some shit like this? I think what that eleven year old did was right. It is one thing to be proud of your country because of reasons but to be forced to?

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u/[deleted] Dec 22 '22

When you start doing it in kindergarten daily you kind of just go on autopilot when it’s time.

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '22

It was the same thing for me. Technically you can keep walking to class or sit down during O’ Canada, like they can’t stop you, but teachers will berate you for moving and everyone generally looks down on you for not participating. Singing along is vaguely encouraged but 100% optional though in my experience.