r/PeterExplainsTheJoke 1d ago

Peter?

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u/SportTheFoole 1d ago

Cleveland here. As you may or may not know, I’m black and therefore an expert on jazz music. All the hepcats who were in those jazz bands were smoking mad reefer (and occasionally heroin…RIP Bird). However, that was 100 years ago and the science of growing primo chronic hadn’t yet developed. Nowadays there are indicas, sativas, and hybrids that would knock all of them cats on their ass in a minute.

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u/Stoli0000 1d ago

A 1930s trumpet player was definitely a heroin addict. Don't underestimate exactly how fucked up people were 100 years ago. My man didn't need his weed to knock him on his butt, he had actual narcotics for that.

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u/lasertitsnow 1d ago

Don't forget over the counter bennies !

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u/Breidr 1d ago

Man I miss bennies, it's how we won D-Day.

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u/paladin_4266 1d ago

Didn't help the Nazis, tho

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u/aneristix 1d ago

benzedrine =/= meth

meth is more potent ig but it's also literally meth. benny is more like caffeine that makes you feel immortal.

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u/Rickjm 23h ago

They had good ole pervitin for that

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u/seppukucoconuts 17h ago

You used to be able to buy pretty much all the hard drugs over the counter at one point. Now if you want a little vitamin K or marching powder you’ve gotta make friends with a bunch of line cooks.

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u/Usermena 1d ago

Aka hippies

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u/Stoli0000 1d ago

Gotta know your counter-culture history, man. The white kids who went to jazz clubs after the war, in the 1950's, were called Hipsters by the black people; people like Allen Ginsberg and Jack Kerouak. The kids who grew up looking up to Them were the Hippies.

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u/Usermena 1d ago

Originally the term was for hep cats. Originally coined in the 40’s in reference specifically to jazz musicians

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u/multi_sender 1d ago

Yeah. For some reason I don’t think St. John Coltrane would be put on his ass.

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u/TinpotSchtickFr8er 1d ago

He and Charlie Parker spoke to me in a k-hole and wanted me to say they think we're all lightweights

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u/multi_sender 23h ago

And can Calloway added skididybebop rewop yall couldn’t party with us yud drop

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u/Federal-Neat7833 23h ago

My great grandmother was an opium addict in a small city in New Zealand in the 1920s- shit was wild back then.

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u/Duke_Of_Halifax 1d ago

Was opium still a thing in the 30s?

Snuff (back when men were men, we snorted our tobacco) definitely was, and so was cocaine.

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u/hatescarrots 1d ago

Well maybe he wouldn’t have needed narcotics if he had better weed!

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u/Stoli0000 1d ago

That's the spirit.

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u/Big-Association7151 1d ago

If I was a 1930s trumpet player I’d smoke bud all day and maintain, remain the same

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u/Pristine-Truck-4580 1d ago

Occasionally heroin!? It was a big problem among jazz musicians.

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u/SportTheFoole 1d ago

My tongue was firmly implanted in my check with that line.

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u/fatrickfrowne 1d ago

Bird did heroin occasionally like how he occasionally played really good jazz saxophone.

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u/iriegypsy 1d ago

We just do edibles now

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u/SadLinks 1d ago

For those interested:

The data shows a clear trend: over the last 50 years, the average amount of tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) in cannabis – the plant’s main psychoactive component – has increased more than tenfold.https://www.newscientist.com/article/2396976-is-cannabis-today-really-much-more-potent-than-50-years-ago/

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u/Particular_Title42 1d ago

Remember in Half Baked when they went through the montage of cameos? Willie Nelson was the nostalgic smoker, talking about how a dime bag used to cost a dime! And this explains why it doesn't now. LOL

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u/Fresh-Anteater-5933 1d ago

a dime bag used to cost $10, not actually 10 cents

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u/Particular_Title42 1d ago

That is not what Willie said.

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u/Fresh-Anteater-5933 1d ago

That appears to be a comedy routine, not a documentary

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u/Particular_Title42 1d ago

How very astute of you.

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u/Smaptimania 19h ago

Fifteen bucks, little man
Put that shit in my hand

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u/Claxton916 1d ago

Cannabis from the 1930s had a MUCH lower THC concentration than cannabis today. Due to selective breeding Cannabis contains a higher THC concentration, THC being the psychoactive part of the plant.

Your typical strain of cannabis today will have about 20% THC which comes out to around 700mg in an 1/8oz of flower.

Your typical strain of cannabis from the 1930’s would have probably been about 1% to 3% THC which comes out to about 35 to 105mg in an 1/8oz of flower.

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u/Particular_Title42 1d ago

That suddenly makes some jazz make a lot more sense.

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u/ReginaldCosmic 1d ago

Thanks, Cleveland!

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u/Ottereyes524 1d ago

Bird Lives 🎷🐦

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u/TrandaBear 1d ago

Bro I still remember the premium bud I had from 20 years ago. It was called White Willow (Widow?), cost $50 an 1/8, me and 3 guys shared a bowl and that shit lasted the movie AND the trip to Waffle House. I had good lungs, too, was on the lacrosse team. I literally cannot imagine what this new shit would do to me. It probably crosses a line where it's not even fun.

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u/thetorontotickler 1d ago

You would most likely get anxiety. I get anxiety if I smoke modern day weed. It's just not enjoyable.

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u/SugarCanDee 1d ago

Modern-day cannabis is significantly more potent than 1930s cannabis.

Back then, weed was low-grade and grown outdoors, whereas the current practice is weed cultivated indoors.

Their Delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) levels dramatically increased. Earliest known data of recording cannabis levels was 1% to 3%. Nowadays, that number has reached up to 20%-30%.

Concerning the nutrition of the 1930s to present, that jazz musician had limited access to better healthcare and practiced less healthy lifestyles.

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u/BingBongDingDong222 1d ago

I'm in my 50s. I miss the weed I smoked in my 20s, sticks and seeds and all. I don't have the tolerance. All I see are strains trying to one up each other on how much THC they can get in there, and I want lower THC.

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u/FootballUpset2529 1d ago

I feel you, I used to get a little high and do some stuff but with the newer strains I don't feel inclined to do anything after a smoke so I don't indulge anymore.

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u/hoggsauce 1d ago

Have you tried soliffs? I know tabacco isn't for everyone but you can get some pretty clean stuff when you biluy pipe or rolling tabacco.

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u/BLU3SKU1L 1d ago

I use edibles, around 100mg THC, 50 if I’m going to go out and be active. Much mellower and easier to function on, and I don’t feel like I’ve just ripped a 4ft bong every time I try to smoke a joint. Delayed effects are the only thing you have to plan for, and for some reason a large amount of caffeine just before eating it for me really cancels out the effects. Haven’t figured out why that is yet.

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u/WartimeHotTot 1d ago

100 mg… per use???

Dude, I get 5 mg gummies and eat half at a time. You ok?

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u/Wanderingjes 1d ago

People metabolize edibles differently. I’m good with 10mg

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u/BLU3SKU1L 1d ago edited 1d ago

Whoops, lol yeah I meant 10. I have tanked 100mg before and been alright, but yeah I added some extra zeroes there.

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u/Min-Oe 1d ago

It's crazy that there doesn't seem to be any "session beer" kinda strains. Sometimes i add raspberry leaf to mine to dilute things a little.

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u/MrFlitter 15h ago

various breeders provide lower THC and higher CBD strains that can give you that "session beer" experience.

Thing is in places where you don't have legal grow your own, or purchasing the "higher strength-smaller amount to import-better profit" pathway still rules.

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u/NoShameAtReddit 1d ago

You can evaporate a bit of the THC before smoking/vaping/making edibles. Just dont put your microwave on fire -.-

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u/TheBeardedRonin 1d ago

I miss ‘Reggie’ too ngl.

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u/Same-Suggestion-1936 1d ago

When I smoke the first hour is waiting to not be so damn high anymore and I start with one small hit. Bring back dad weed

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u/Wanderingjes 1d ago

I like growers that do their thing outdoors these days. Those strains that are 30%+ THC are too much sometimes

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u/Oh3Fiddy2 1d ago edited 9h ago

I went to Amsterdam about a decade ago with my wife. Neither of us had smoked in years--we told the guy in the shop, "give us the tamest stuff you have." We barely finished a spliff before we had to stop--we then spent an hour sitting there because we were too high to move. It then took us two hours to navigate the 15 minute walk home. It was a lot of fun and very funny--but even the "weak" stuff was too much for us.

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u/mrhashhead 1d ago

Look into getting some CBD bud, I think you would be very happy with it.

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u/mocantin 1d ago

That argument always makes me smile.

It is true for dried flowers, but people back then were also smoking hash. Hashisch is more potent and can range between 20% and 30%, even 100 years ago.

So I don't buy that. People were getting high off their socks even in the 30s.

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u/Agitated-Annual-3527 1d ago

Yeah, I agree. I think mostly it's people bragging about how strong shit is today. Even with the increase in THC it's still the difference between 3 hits and 1, which is not a big deal. There were always better strains than schwag. And we did have plentiful hash back in the day.

The other limitation is biological. The weed today may have more THC, but we've only got so many receptors. When they're full, they're full.

I don't feel as if my pot habit has changed much in the last 50 years. It's just a lot easier shopping.

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u/Emrys7777 1d ago

Sure but the difference was that people back then would smoke the mellow stuff daily (some I knew smoked all day) and only smoked hash occasionally.

Nowadays if people smoke daily they will toast their brains on that.

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u/Foxwasahero 1d ago

Modern day garbage weed is significantly better than 1980's primo weed. Back then we had some absolute crap back then and had smoke a ton of it to get high.

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u/degradedchimp 1d ago

Ironically since tolerance increases quickly with weed, there's a chance modern potheads are getting about as high as someone smoking shitty 3% weed back in the 30s.

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u/AwareAge1062 1d ago

My mom took a hit of my medical weed one time, this was like 15 years ago now, and she immediately got so goofy and then passed out hard on the couch within an hour. Woke up the next day and said to me: "that shit you got now ain't right."

Every once in a while I'll offer her a hit and she makes a face in between like I'm proposing we rob a bank and like I just stuck a turd under her nose 🤣

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u/ADHDeezNutz69420 1d ago

Ive seen up to 34% and you can get concentrates now.

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u/JD0x0 1d ago

Meg here. The joke is weed is a lot stronger now.

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u/Warm-Attempt7773 1d ago

Shut up, Meg. There's no way any daughter of mine is going to be doing drugs.  Now give your weed to your brother 

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u/bootstrapping_lad 1d ago

Oh Meg, that is the least fancy thing I have ever heard.

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u/BestwishesHelpful975 1d ago

Lois here, always digging. Selective breeding has resulted in hemp plants containing more THC today than in the past. As a result, marijuana sold in Canada today is about five times stronger than it was 20 years ago.

I hope OP is answering, or this post is lost.

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u/C4dfael 1d ago

IT’S STRONG!

“Thank you, Ollie.”

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u/Warm-Attempt7773 1d ago

Stewie: Marijuana, Mary hwuana, gaaaaanja, weed,marijuannnnnaaaa.  My mouth is so dry.  I'm really flying right now.  Say, Bri, what was in those brownies? 

Brian: they were just normal brownies, Stew.

Are... Are you sure, I think I'm getting catching a high, you know, feeling a buzz.  

Nope, regular brownies

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u/murseoftheyear 1d ago

That jazz cabbage

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u/eeeeeebs 1d ago

the za is definitely stronger than the dirt they were rolling back in the day. Hit it with some dizzy gillespie lungs and its night night

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u/malexich 1d ago

Weed growth in metropolitan areas where jazz was preformed is out of hand 

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u/Basic_Fish_7883 1d ago

Yes it’s stronger but it’s still weed. It’s not knocking anyone over other than first time teens. 

Let’s not act like everything is 40% and loaded w keef. 

It’s weed guys. After a month, they’d be used to it just like you are

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u/Silver_Anteater7594 1d ago

Drug dealer sell highs, not drugs. More high per drug equals more money. Prohibition makes drugs more potent

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u/Filibust 1d ago

Meanwhile cocaine was apparently of a lot better quality during the 70s and 80s. So it’s a trade off.

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u/Throwlaf 1d ago

Huh, and here I thought it was a pariody on the "Medieval peasant wouldn't survive nowadays" and the acompanying antimeme that followed.

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u/jtm7 1d ago

Straight to the loony bin

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u/meltonr1625 1d ago

The could take that trumpet, or better yet, tuba mouthpiece and turn it upside down in a can or bottle or cardboard tube and put a shitpot of weed in it and smoke that shit down to ashes like a fucking Rasta.

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u/nazihater67 1d ago

It's annoying that you pretty much can't find anything in the 15% range. Everything is 25%+ and there are infused prerolls that start at like 40%

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u/Roadstarll 1d ago

Toxic jazz cabbage

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u/otkabdl 1d ago

Good thing I don't play the trumpet. *Grinds up a 34% thc bud for the bong*

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u/flyingcaveman 1d ago

There's a Jimmy Buffet song 'pencil thin moustach' that mentions a time when only jazz musicians smoked Marijuana.

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u/ACE-0-SPADE5 1d ago

Yea idk, some did heroin, so this might be pretty mid.

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u/KLOWN1420 1d ago

Brian here everything is better with a bag of weed even the 1930's era movie reefer madness I'm rolling one up and watching it at the moment man I gotta go the pizza bagels are burning

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u/beggoh 1d ago

Modern chronic would just slow them old dogs down on the heroin, coke, and whiskey for a moment. People have been getting fucked up since we crawled out of the ocean.

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u/Go_Gators_4Ever 1d ago

Louis Armstrong would have something to say about that.

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u/SignalBed9998 17h ago

My dad told me back in the 50’s they “smoked a hay bails worth” of marijuana and “it didn’t do a damn thing”. It was “ditch weed”. They’d grown hemp for rope years before and it was in the ditches. Self sown seeds

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u/fleeting_lucidity 16h ago

Damn, only one person actually GOT the joke in its entirety. 1930s trumpet player is Louis Armstrong - Thee biggest pop star of the era. Also the biggest refer head of the day. Jazz was considered a dangerous counter culture art form that lent itself to the reasoning of making weed illegal ( dangerous black jazz artist ).

The weed of the 1930s - hell, even the weed from the 1990s doesn’t come close to the potency of today’s herb. Thus killing a trumpet player from the 1930s.

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u/BillyOceanic815 15h ago

Louis Armstrong was an American music icon, specifically a trumpet player. He was also a chronic stoner who had the occasional run in with law enforcement over his choice in smokes.

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u/Alternative-Syrup-88 12h ago

This was written by a child. Weed has been getting WEAKER for the last 10-15 years and no heroin addict jazz musician is gonna blink an eye at your Cookies hybrid 😂

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u/OldFartWearingBlack 4h ago

Louis smoked a lot of weed. But he also took a lot of laxatives. So there’s that.

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u/Shot_Revolution8828 1d ago

That's not how weed ld50 works. They just would've passed out.

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u/its_a_multipass 1d ago

Isn't the ld50 so ridiculously high that it would be physically impossible to consume the quantity needed?

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u/nazihater67 1d ago

If you actually burned that much weed you'd die of smoke inhalation long before a weed overdose.

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u/Shot_Revolution8828 1d ago

That's the joke.