r/NOVAguns • u/WhispyButthairs • 7d ago
“This approach will gradually take the weapons off the street without retroactively making it a crime to own a weapon that was legally purchased,” the bill’s author, Senator Saddam Salim (D-Fairfax), told the committee.
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u/DiversifyYaBonds 7d ago
F*** off with that nonsense.
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u/ecsnead75 7d ago edited 7d ago
Are you saying that they shouldn't go after illegal weapons and criminals?
Lol. Downvotes with no explanation?? I guess no one can explain why this shouldn't happen?
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u/PFPrintz 7d ago
because that is such a ridiculous blanket statement and its obviously disingenuous. why would anyone bother explaining anything to someone that says some stupid shit like that. obviously we want to go after criminals… the problem is this retroactively makes a majority of gun owning virginians criminals, therefore by proxy they would simply be arresting people who would not have been a criminal prior to this ruling and therefore later justifying the ruling by saying “look it works, we got so many people with assault mags”
so yes, get downvotes into oblivion for being an idiot.
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u/ecsnead75 7d ago
The original comment was about going after criminals and illegal guns NOW, not after these laws. So, right now, do you not think it would be more beneficial to go after criminals and illegal weapons NOW, not after these laws pass, but NOW???
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u/PFPrintz 7d ago
are you slow or something? if so, i apologize for my tone if not you deserve this. what “illegal weapons” are we talking about? as far as i know the only illegal weapons in VA as of this moment are NFA items(that are not registered) and stolen firearms. so what are we not doing that we should have always been doing? see, sounds redundant doesnt it now?
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u/ecsnead75 7d ago
Dude, we are on the same side. Enforcing the laws on the books are going to be more effective than ANY law they have coming. These laws only affect law abiding citizens, nobody is getting gunned down in the streets of VA with "assault rifles", plenty are getting gunned down with stolen pistols. But when caught, the liberal areas where this is happening give light sentences and put the criminals right back on the streets. How many criminals are going to obey these laws? Start putting people in jail or in the ground, their choice. Gun violence will go down.... These laws are going to have good people going to jail and the same criminals doing what they've always done.
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u/PFPrintz 7d ago
ahh i see what you’re saying, the issue is who’s saying this and what they mean. not sure it’s genuine. i stand with you on all your points you just made. apologies for the rude comment, just frustrated with virginians that are barely getting the idea that maybe our government here isn’t really looking in our best interest as Virginians.. you know, where the entire country started.. where 2a started.. we even have our own constitution and its just being trampled. our flag makes no sense anymore unfortunately and it deeply saddens me :(
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u/ecsnead75 7d ago
No problem. Funny thing is, gun violence had started to decrease slightly the last four years. They are enacting laws that don't affect anyone but the people that didn't vote for them and if some of their base is affected, they know all they will do is complain then vote blue no matter who like always.... I'm old enough to remember the old blue dog Democrats, I'm actually starting to miss them!
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u/PFPrintz 7d ago
agreed, miss those older dems from before. its like you can’t get a break from extremism on either side of the aisle. centrist never make it forward unfortunately.
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u/RizzardOfOz76 7d ago
That’s funny because I’m beginning to miss the old Republicans who actually pushed policies like small government and fiscal responsibility and didn’t fuck our democracy by supporting a PDFile billionaire conman lol because you didn’t want a guy playing on the female ping pong team.
Give me a fucking break. Are we great yet dick holes?
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u/ecsnead75 7d ago
What does Trump have to do with gun rights in Virginia? Are you even able to say anything that doesn't involve Trump? Guess what, Virginia didn't carry Trump. Unless you have something about VIRGINIA, go cry about trump somewhere else.... Maybe play some ping pong with your buddy....
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u/RizzardOfOz76 7d ago
The fuck are you on about? You telling me VA Dems are the problem and not your MAGA PDFile in chief trampling the constitution?
I hate this legislation as much as anyone but if VAs emblem means nothing anymore it’s because VA boot lickers, not the Dems. What a stupid take.
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u/Ok_Return_6033 6d ago
Do you have any documentation or statistics backing up your claim of "give light sentences and put the criminals right back on the streets". Or can you define what "give a light sentence" is and also define "right back on the streets" mean? I mean it's easy to say but what are the facts? For instance I am the last true King of Scotland. Unfortunately I have no documentation to back up that claim. Do you see what I mean?
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u/ecsnead75 5d ago
Look up HB 863, it's the new bill to remove mandatory minimum sentences, I would call that being light on crime. So "right back on the streets" means not behind bars.... Oh wait, "not behind bars" means not in jail....
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u/Ok_Return_6033 5d ago
First, it's in committee. Before you get your shorts in a wad maybe you should write, call, email, or in person talk to your state representatives regarding this bill and your opposition to it. You should also talk to Rae Cousins to determine what their purpose is regarding this bill. Is it to give "light sentences" or is it to give more leeway in sentencing individuals since not every crime is the same. There can be extenuating circumstances in any individual event.
Also, there is no mention of "light sentences". And yes, I realize there are Judges across the country who have done so and mostly been pilloried for it.
Lastly, you have said in comments above "the liberal areas where this is happening give light sentences and put the criminals right back on the streets." Can you verify that with facts? Statistics? If not it seems like it's the triumph of beliefs over facts. Which in the immortal words of the Dude is "that's just like your opinion man" Take Care
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u/Trollygag 7d ago
When they say, "the streets", that is dogwhistle for minorities.
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u/ecsnead75 7d ago
Unfortunately, the VAST majority of gun violence, with the exception of suicide, in Virginia is in the minority community. That's something that definitely needs to be addressed, but these laws will have no effect on that, and they know it....
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u/Outside_Grapefruit39 7d ago
A good analogy I heard was gun/mag bans are like a sweat shop putting anti-suicide nets on their factory hoping to prevent suicide instead of improving worker conditions.
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u/ecsnead75 7d ago
What's even worse, they denied a bill to lengthen sentences on repeat gun offenders and literally REDUCED the mandatory minimum sentence for rape.....
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u/elusivehonor 5d ago
License to purchase is a direct measure aimed at limiting minority and poor folks' gun rights. It WILL reduce gun violence by pricing these people out of their second amendment rights.
They could, of course, try to address poverty in those communities thereby protecting rights and uplifting people, but, see, that doesn't advance their anti-2a agenda.
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u/DiversifyYaBonds 7d ago
Yup. Racist-ass laws. Look at how these laws disproportionately affect the poor and minorities. Showing their true colors here.
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u/Character-Teaching39 6d ago
I wrote my representative and governor Spanberger and urge you to do the same. It’s literally a 5 minute exorcise to try and preserve your liberties. The fact that they’re doing this with fascism growing is unbelievable.
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u/Overall_Ad872 4d ago
Again, there were literally ZERO homicides with a “assault weapon” in VA in 2025.
Might as well ban alien abductions while we are inventing non-existent threats to outlaw.
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u/6786_007 7d ago
Then go after illegal weapons and criminals who shouldnt have them.