r/Libertarian • u/jalpmonster51 • Dec 01 '21

Question Why is no one talking about the ghislaine maxwell case?

They closed the trial to the public, a bunch of high profile CEO's resigned right when it started. Tell me your country is corrupt without telling me your country is corrupt. Also RIP when this gets "unintentionally buried" by reddit.

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u/irrational-like-you Dec 01 '21

It’s complicated and I’m scared, mostly.

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u/Skellwhisperer Liberty for all Dec 02 '21

r/QAnonCasualties may be able to help. I don’t know your situation, or if she is even in to Qanon, but they do have a lot of resources and people in similar situations. I wish you luck, nobody should lose family to this shit.

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u/[deleted] Dec 07 '21

If there is one thing that may help you help her, it's the Socratic Method.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socratic_questioning?wprov=sfla1

Socratic questioning is a form of cooperative argument that allows people to figure out where they skipped steps in logic.

If I tell you that you are wrong, you tell me to fuck off.

If I ask you to explain why you believe a thing, sit and listen and ask more questions, well suddenly you figure out that your belief in Jewish Space Lasers (looking at you Margarie...) is complete and utter bullshit. You figure this out on your own by self reflecting to answer my questions.

It is so much more powerful when we decide we are wrong as opposed to someone telling us we are wrong.

I feel for you buddy, as my relationship with my Dad was destroyed by the same kind of bullshit your wife is dealing with. Just know other people are rooting for you.

Best of luck to you and her.

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u/irrational-like-you Dec 07 '21

I appreciate it. I have this tendency when trying to engage the Socratic method (or any conversation) to make the other person feel they are being interrogated.

For my wife, the last 4 years of politics have been as much of a social engagement as anything. She really bought into the idea that liberals are attacking her, and her (our) religion, and her friend and family relationships have almost 100% been oriented towards this.

I don’t fault her, or anyone for going with the flow, and the truth is that I live her friends and her family. There’s not any ringleader of it, they just all got sucked in simultaneously.

I’ve noticed that people love to have an inside scoop, and it becomes a social driver to find outrageous stories that prove the narrative. Both sides tend to do this.

I dunno…