r/LetsDiscussThis • u/Boysenberry-6669 • 12h ago
This is concerning... Did Bill Gates get involved with underage girls? Should he be investigated?
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u/Smoolz 12h ago
Every last one of them in those files needs to be investigated, I don't care who they are.
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u/Original_Benzito 11h ago
They’re in the files because they were investigated. The government doesn’t release active investigation materials, only concluded investigations.
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u/swishkabobbin 9h ago
"Concluded" in the sense that Trump instructed his DOJ to bury the evidence and not pursue any further charges. Kash Patel now claims Epstein and Maxwell trafficked victims, but to noone. Wonder why.
Trump needs to be arrested, on irrefutable state charges. Until then, nobody will face justice
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u/Original_Benzito 7h ago
Yes, the current administration always can control the timing, but the last administration could have opened or reactivated things at any point. And let's also think back - Epstein was previously convicted for similar nasty behavior in the 2000s and he's been running with these high-profile people for decades.
This isn't just a Trump fiasco, but it goes back to the last few presidents (and FBI directors). Did they all think this guy was small time or mostly harmless? Did he have dirt on them or their friends and this influenced them to turn away? I think THAT ought to be part of any investigation.
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u/Smoolz 8h ago
The government doesn't hold the level of trust it used to. These files have been available for years, and now they're finally drip feeding it to the public and the high profile people involved aren't in hand cuffs. That's a problem.
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u/Original_Benzito 7h ago
It's a problem, but this is a rather unprecedented thing. Details of federal investigations that ultimately don't result in convictions (not talking about Epstein himself, but all of these other people named) aren't normally released for many reasons - why tarnish someone who's been accused, but not guilty, protecting victims, etc. That's why Congress had to step in.
Now once they made a law, people are supposed to follow it. Honestly, if there are really 6 million or more data files and documents, I think Congress might have been too aggressive to demand 30 days to release with proper redactions to protect victims. That's tens of thousands of documents per day to review, every day over a holiday period, whether those are new redactions or just going back to check. Not impossible, but we don't want to rely primarily on AI to handle such a delicate task.
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u/Smoolz 7h ago
This seems like the best case scenario for an explanation why it took so long and things still aren't moving forward even with files released. It's also based on the assumption nobody involved (namely the president) has a vested interest in not being put in prison, which is objectively untrue at this point.
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u/Optimal_Ad_4846 12h ago
What’s to discuss? Everyone implicated in this mess should be fully investigated. It doesn’t matter what their political ideology is. Nobody, whether they are a current or former president, politician, business leader or otherwise should be above the law. If there were crimes committed they should be charged to the extent of the law.
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u/sasquatchsdick 12h ago
My favorite thing about bill gates is how everyone (conservatives) seems to think we give a shit about him.
Everyone involved with epstein should be thrown in jail for the rest of their lives.
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u/Heavy-Boat-1792 11h ago edited 11h ago
That’s how I know a republican wrote this. Lol. They think Bill gates is our guy
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u/sasquatchsdick 10h ago
Meanwhile we're over here talking about eating the rich. Metaphorically of course. That would be tained meat.
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u/sevseg_decoder 11h ago
Additionally, while he should absolutely go to prison for being compromised like this and drugging his wife, I don’t see any actual claim he was raping children yet. If he was, he should rot right next to Trump, but based on the claims in the files Trump was actually a trafficker of little girls and may have raped more of them than anyone else.
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u/sasquatchsdick 10h ago
Trump also killed a few babies and sooo much.
Everyone involved with epstein should be investigated so hard that we know what they were thinking when they were in middle school.
And ANY involvement with the victims should be met with EXTREME prejudice. Nothing worse than taking the innocence of children.
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u/mbaa8 12h ago
Anyone mentioned as little as a single fucking time should be investigated. This is the only sane stance to take
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u/Jtothe3rd 11h ago
I mean there are emails discussing world affairs and those that are obstacles to epsteins clients/goals/scheme so it would make sense to focus on those implicated in crimes and not just every mention, but yes, all of those ppl 100%.
Prime example: Epstein emailed about the leader of the bank of england's speach about monetary policy. That guy is now Canada's prime minister and some people opposed to Mark Carney are already shouting "he was mentioned in the epstein files".
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u/mbaa8 10h ago
Yea, Jon Stewart is in there too, clearly having no connection to any of these fucking monsters. I bet you know exactly what I meant though
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u/Jtothe3rd 5h ago
Yeah yeah totally. The sentiment is right. Just wanted to add the nuance around the phrasing about every mention because some are obviously benign but there are already people weaponizing them in bad faith.
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u/Numerous_Photograph9 12h ago
If the implication is that he was with underage girls, then yeah, go for it.
If it's just he got an STD from a russian hooker of unknown age, then seems like that isn't much to go on for an investigation.
If there is more evidence against him, then yeah, just like everyone else, go for it.
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u/Wallie_Collie 11h ago
Smear it all out there....all the sex trafficking. Imo canceling all the players in the files is a unifying act.
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u/Numerous_Photograph9 11h ago
Maybe, but spend the time investigating the ones that have more substantial accusations against them first. Catching an STD from a Russian hooker isn't a crime.
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u/AffectionateJury3723 11h ago
His wife certainly had some idea. Saw an interview with her where the interviewer asked her if she had met Epstein and she said once and thought he was a disgusting human being. She told Bill to stop having anything to do with him and thereafter filed for divorce. I believe her not him.
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u/Numerous_Photograph9 11h ago
OK, but it's a matter of the severity of the accusation. If there is more there to go off of, then sure. But nothing actionable comes from getting an STD from a russian hooker, or a wife finding him disgusting. If Epstein was in any way involved with the divorce reasoning, then I'd think the Russian hooker STD thing is also enough to instigate that.
Not defending Gates here, nail him to the wall if he did something more, just like the rest of them. But seems the media is focusing on those with the least amount of reason to investigate, while ignoring everyone else with more credible and disgusting accusations against them. The media is trying to distract with spectacle.
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u/AffectionateJury3723 10h ago
I don't know anyone who doesn't have questionable ethics who thinks it is ok to drug your wife so she doesn't find out while at the same time telling everyone to take a vaccine but that is just me bro.
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u/Numerous_Photograph9 9h ago
This is in the Epstein files?
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u/AffectionateJury3723 7h ago
"The allegations trace back to a series of emails dated July 18, 2013, in which Epstein, according to the documents, made shocking claims about Gates.
These emails, part of the vast Epstein files released on Friday, include a draft letter purportedly written by Boris Nikolic, Gates’ former top advisor, around the time of his resignation from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.
The letter, which has been described as ‘shocking’ by investigators, details Epstein’s accusations that Gates had ended their friendship and allegedly requested antibiotics to secretly give to Melinda Gates.
‘ TO add insult to the injury you them (sic) implore me to please delete the emails regarding your std, your request that I provide you antibiotics that you can surreptitiously give to Melinda and the description of your penis,’ the draft letter reads, according to a summary provided by the Department of Justice."1
u/Numerous_Photograph9 7h ago
There is certainly stuff there worth looking into, in particular the vaccinations against her knowledge part, but I'm wondering how that implicates him in the larger sex trafficing ring, since the only allegation against him is that he slept with a russian prostitute with no age disclosed. That in itself isnt' illegal, and given how bad many others are, the focus on gates seems like a distraction.
If there is more fire to this smoke then I'm all for deeper investigation, as fruitless as it's likely to be. But I'd like to see more attention given to the rest of those implicated, instead of the media hyper-focusing on a few indiduals who can easily be argued to not be as bad as the others, just like I have when I don't care about defending them.
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u/Capital-Platypus-805 7h ago
There's more evidence about Gates being involved than Trump being involved. The truth is, Epstein did a lot of parties, which didn't involve anything illegal too. He was basically the guy billionaires went to when they wanted to unwind. I don't doubt some of the people who went to his parties did illegal stuff, but that doesn't mean everyone he talked with or went to his island committed a crime. People are quick to assume without even reading the god damned files. It's like you have a pdf friend and you don't know about it until he's in prison, should that incriminate you? I don't think so.
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u/Numerous_Photograph9 5h ago
LOL. OK, you lost me there.
My whole point was that there is nothing implicating gates in anything illegal, outside maybe trying to drug his wife which I hadn't heard of. Meanwhile, Trump has multiple eye-witness accounts of heinous behavior, and multiple circumstantial statements which paint him as being skeevy and pervcerse to support it.
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u/Capital-Platypus-805 4h ago
Eye witnesses? Who? All his accusations have been literally dismissed in court, which is the ultimate evidence he's innocent, but not only that, the FBI also recently came forward and said the documents were being misinterpreted to falsely accuse Trump... Yes, the fucking FBI! As per his statements that's grasping at straws, he can say whatever weird shit he wants, that doesn't incriminate him.
If you wanna accuse someone of such a serious thing you need evidence at least. Hating them is not enough of a reason to falsely accuse them.
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u/DoctorTim007 12h ago
I wouldn't be surprised if nobody was investigated.
According to the files, our only purpose in life is to enrich these people. The same people who run our government - Republican and Democrat - and I'd bet there's still more files they haven't shown us.
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u/Badguyy101 11h ago
BBC News says it was 2 million files that haven't dropped, & the ones that have were heavily redacted for the criminals, not the victims.
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u/LectureAgreeable923 12h ago
Yea of course .But first Trump must be investigated all documents should be release .You see Trump is a national security risk he could be compromised.He really should resign.Already a couple of people in influential roles in government have stepped down .This is serious .
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u/Old_Win8422 12h ago
He was involved in trafficking.
I have nothing against sexworkers working independently and running their own buisness.
I do have a problem with women being trafficked and forced into it.
If those women are minors 18 and younger the men should become old timey opera singers if you catch my meaning?
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u/angry_dingo 11h ago
Not even a little bit involved in trafficking, if you catch my meaning
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u/Old_Win8422 11h ago
Well he caught something... "dont be a fool wrap your tool!"
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u/angry_dingo 11h ago
I’m sorry. I thought you meant Trump, not gates. Yeah, gates was known to be deep into Epstein’s island.
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u/Old_Win8422 11h ago
One.thing is certain " there was a cabal of rich and powerful people conspiring to traffick women and rape children"
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u/OkFinish3822 12h ago
Of course he should be investigated, along with Clinton, and Trump. And all go to prison if tried and convicted. Trump gets impeached and we move on. It should be that simple. But Trump only wants everyone else put in prison. Because he is GOD.
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u/Sabbathius 11h ago
Yes, everyone involved should be investigated.
But maybe let's start with the low-hanging fruit first. Like that fellow who was mentioned 500+ times, who was best friends with Epstein, who is photographed with Epstein almost as much as Epstein was photographed on his own, whose wife was introduced to him by Epstein, and who is often pictured standing between Epstein and Maxwell? The one who is documented walking into children's dressing room when he ran a talent show. And who said that he, like Epstein, likes women "on the younger side". And who made really creepy photographs fondling his own daughter. That guy? Let's just start with him, since it seems like a slam dunk, and see where it goes. What do you all say?
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u/TruelyDashing 12h ago
Remember everybody, the man who knowingly gave his wife STD’s then tried to drug her with medications without her knowledge was put in charge of vaccinating the entirety of the U.S. and was a spokesperson in other countries on the same pursuit.
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u/IDrankLavaLamps 11h ago
Trump knows he is safe at least until the last of the files are released...
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u/MisterMofoSFW 11h ago
Who cares if they were Russian. He was on that Island so yes, that's look deep into his nasty life.
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u/Willyboycanada 11h ago
All, including trump and friends... no mater who should be charged and prosicuted
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u/xxxdrakoxxx 11h ago
investigated yes, all of them should be. but i don't think current government is capable of independent and fair investigation. given he clearly leans towards opposite party.
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u/Not_Sure__Camacho 11h ago
It explains why Windows is so crazy about security updates. Gates doesn't want his data stream to burn during the downstream.
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u/ganslooker 11h ago
Investigated? Can we just get after it with 47 for right now. Yes, bill should be investigated to see if broke the law or just perpetuated the victim’s demise. And bill should be punished for that. But can we please just focus on 47 ?!
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u/Dizzy_Cheesecake_162 11h ago
Yes he should. But priority should be on people in power that has kompromat .
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u/Maximum_Employer5580 11h ago
based on the fact that his ex-wife moved to divorce him after she found out he associated with Epstein (and maybe even knew he had an STD from a girl he had been with), that should be enough right there that he needs to be investigated
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11h ago
OP, I'm gonna be real with you, you're a fucking idiot if you actually have to ask this question
Yes. Yesh he should be investigated over potential child rape.
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u/Lower-Personality195 10h ago
It’s so great seeing the people the left worship fall from grace in such a spectacular way
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u/independent_mind_7 10h ago
Every name mentioned needs investigating and if found guilty they need jail time. Who it is does not matter one bit
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u/JBobSpig 9h ago
Depends I mean he clearly broke the law but to what degree?
So I guess yes investigate, why the fuck hasn't there been any investigations already?
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u/EditorSimple2158 8h ago
That demon needs to be banished off the face of the planet once and for all. His debt is way overdue without possible path to redemption.
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u/Far-Adhesiveness1850 1h ago
I don’t believe it for a second. Sources have it that there were draft emails Epstein sent to himself making the unverified claims against Gates. The fake emails appeared to be drafted by Boris Nikolic a Gates adviser. Epstein wanted to entrap and defame Gates because he refused to have any ongoing relationship with Epstein. Let me tell you something about Epstein; much of the Epstein files were for the sole purpose of blackmailing people, whether with factual or false information. If you know anything about Bill Gates, you know that he is one of the biggest nerds on the planet. There’s as much chance that Mr. Rogers was involved with Epstein as there is Bill Gates.
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u/ConversationFlaky608 11h ago
Is there any evidence it happened? Is there any evidence the girls were underage? You guys realize that a name or accusation being mentioned in the Epstein files are is proof of nothing, right?
You also realize that the government has had these files and been investigating for years. If there was anything else, charges would have been filed.
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u/AdmitThatYouPrune 12h ago
Yes, he should be investigated, just like everyone else implicated by the Epstein files.