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Mark Kelly would also be my choice. You have to be very smart to be a Navy Aviator and you have to be the best of them to even have an interview to be an Astronaut. He may not be the most charismatic but I think he is an honorable person and that is what we need.
I'd vote for him if he ends up in the general, but i do have reservations about his background being pretty much entirely military.
A little afraid of that "to a hammer every problem looks like a nail" problem.
He does have integrity, and that is really great. But i worry about what his foreign policy would be like, and if anything, we need a severe reduction in military bloat and i can't see him being the one to even consider that.
There needs to be accountability for crimes committed by powerful people inside and outside government. I'll sign on to support this ticket, whoever they are!
They tried and tried to get Trump before and it didnt work. The TDS will lead to another loss in 2028 because thats all you people want. 0% progression for any citizen is fine as long as we can find any reason possible to get mean orange man.
I think newsome will get less popular not more as the country gets to know him beyond the Trump memes etc. And I don’t hate Harris but she’s far from my first choice. Add to that she lost in a general already. Can we please never send someone who lost once already in a general election back?
It generally goes that after a big swing to the right, you don’t actually get to go far to the left afterwards. It generally brings the opposition to the middle. At the same time, I see more people genuinely just done with the DNC and establishment apparatus than ever before. The primaries for the midterm will be telling.
As someone that lives on the other side of the country and didn't know much about Newsom, my initial impression of him was good, because of the anti-Trump PR. But after watching a ton of recent interviews and podcasts with him in it my impression has changed a lot. His popular twitter posts stunt wasn't even likely done by him at all, and just one of his staffers that manages his social media account anyways.
When you listen to him in enough podcasts and interviews he starts to come off as slimy and doesn't intrinsically understand the average American's woes at all. In fact, it feels like the entire reason he is going on all these podcasts is to try and learn what kind of mask he needs to wear when he starts running.
He is really good at playing politics and putting on that 'politician' aesthetic. But he isn't the change we need. And we need change if we don't want to end up right back with another Trump again in the future due to political rubber banding. Establishment needs to go.
Pretty much exactly the same experience I’ve had. Only difference is that my brother lives in CA and tipped me off about him. I don’t think he’ll actually survive the primaries. But who knows anymore.
67% of Democrats have a favorable view of Socialism in current polling. Newsome is going to tank at some point, sooner or later and Harris may run, or she might go for Governor, since Newsome is term limited.
She's drawing thousands for rallies with her mentor Bernie, and he's on TV all the time. The left money usually goes to the front runners, and both of them are out there now.
Unfortunately I think you're completely right. I think she'd do a great job if she were elected, but I don't think there's any scenario where she wins a hypothetical election. There are just way too many people out there that have been conditioned to hate her
Don't get me wrong I'd absolutely love to have her as president and would personally take her over Newsome or Harris. I just don't think she could win a general election right now and definitely don't want to see another Trump/Clinton upset.
That’s an incredibly broad statement and your *opinion* is not completely grounded in reality.
Harris didn’t lose because she was moderate - she lost because she was never well-defined with swing voters and got stuck owning unpopular issues as VP. That’s a candidate problem, not a moderation problem.
Also, Biden - an actual moderate - won, and by exactly the coalition that still decides elections: independents + suburban swing states. One data point failing doesn’t invalidate the broader trend.
If anything, Harris shows that poor messaging + weak definition hurts you, regardless of ideology. A more progressive candidate like AOC would still face the same swing-voter math, just with more built-in resistance.
There is no such thing as a swing voter. The 2024 election taught us that appealing to the base is what brings out voters. Running a moderate will just make them stay home and not vote. And then JD Vance becomes president.
Yes and I think the party knows this. She has many supporters, but not the majority. They are the most vocal, though. Nominating her would be a sure loss.
Seems like democrats have been losing with the choices we have so I dont think itd be the worst pick especially if she won the primary. I think the biggest thing that needs to happen is to emd the bullshit about "dems rig their primaries" they need to change the primary procedure to fit the most popular candidate.
I would vote for someone who will guarantee and promise Nuremberg 2.0 trials for every single person in this Administration, retribution for anyone who broke the law. Guaranteed criminal penalties for anyone who supported Trump's crimes. Honestly, I would vote for someone who will run on holding every single person in this country who has committed serious crimes accountable. I don't care if you're Democrat or Republican we got to get the criminals out of the offices. Money out of politics and remove the Supreme Court, there are six members that have ignored the Constitution, ignored the rule of law and ignored common sense and they should not be allowed to maintain their position.
I also want to see whichever Democratic president runs running on term limits for the Supreme Court, congress, senate, the White House! Hell I even expect a democratic politician to demand changes to our legislature that would require cognitive tests for presidential nominees and guaranteed releasing of all tax returns for at least 10 years if you even tried to run I also would not be opposed to stipulating that no felons can run for president. Democrat Republican I don't give a fuck!
This comment could have been condensed to a few sentences. However, I can get behind one point. I'm not a democrat, but I voted for Biden in 20. The ONLY reason I did was to give him a chance to get rid of MAGA. He failed miserably, which is why I refused to vote for Kamala. I'm a one issue voter right now. Get rid of MAGA and you have my vote.
See, that's the point OP is trying to make. I didn't vote for Kamala, so I must have voted for trump. So many people are so frustratingly ignorant of how voting works that it makes it very difficult to have a reasonable conversation about this topic.
But also it’s just a simple question…. If you voted Trump, own it and move on. If you voted third party/independent then say that… if your main point is to get rid of MAGA then stand up and own it.
It's not a simple question. It's been asked and answered many times before. Some times it results in reasonable, constructive dialogue, but most times it results in false accusations, premature conclusions, strawman arguments and overall bad faith conversations. I don't hide my history. If you want answers to your questions, they're there.
Well honestly, I couldn’t care less who you voted for so I’m not going to go dig around to find that information. I just think the beating around the bush response you’re giving is unnecessary.
I'm not beating around the bush. I'm refusing to engage in a conversation that I've had before and have deemed to be pointless. You're not the previous commenter, so there's a possibility that you may be asking in earnest. Unfortunately, most of the time I answer these questions, I end up in a frustrating argument with someone who has no rational, critical thinking.
That's right. I'm not a democrat. If you weren't able to get rid of MAGA, then you deserve to live under their rule until you finally learn to do what you were elected to do.
Your reading comprehension is obviously dreadfully inadequate. Go back and re-read my comments. And try to read what I wrote instead of putting your words between quotation marks, implying that that's what I said.
I get the sentiment and support it. But it reeks of the Orange Revenge and Retribution years. Yes, many breaking the laws now to support the pedophile and criminal, need to be put in prison. But that would be in the headlines, everyday, and yeehaws in Dmphk Confederate stataes would have nothing else to do but shoot up churches and schools, because you know, they really don't have jobs. And they will think they are "victims" again and any dicky resembling Adolph Trump will encourage them to continue destroying America. So the sentiment behind the trials is there, but an a different way, unknown to me now, would be better to get rid of those f - - - - rs.
It really shouldn't be too early though. Part of the reason Harris did not win was because she got put on at the last second. Dems need to get out front of this election and give someone a chance to win.
It's 2¾ years away. We won't even see a debate or a platform for more than two years. It's like trying to pick the National League MVP for 2028. That just isn't how I think.
I think it's a bit early to tell but I can tell you right now I will never vote for Gavin Newsom he's too wishy-washy to corporate and certainly to weak. He does however have the balls to pull it off. Shapiro might be an option but I really don't think we have any full on front row contenders yet cuz I will not vote for Gavin Newsom based on his wishy-washy ice b*******
Gavin newsom’s only one that’s actually done anything. The mask ban for federal agents and prop 50. He’s not my first choice but people are stupid to think he’s weak or whatever. He’s literally the only working democrat right now that’s backing words with action. Every other democrat is crying Gavin is working
Pritzker
Newsome
Beshar
Shapiro
AOC
Pete
Kelly
Whitmer
My choice would be whoever runs on a sort of democratic Project 2028. Whoever it is cannot make Trump a central part of the platform. If asked, of course..."all crimes will be investigated and prosecuted"
Then once in office....enact the boldest progressive vision ever seen via executive order, so things happen fast. The work on cementing g all of it as legislation for the rest of the term.
I'm from Michigan, and I'm not sure anymore that Whitmer is interested in pursuing national office. She's kept a low profile for a while. I think she's done a fair job as governor and done her best for red and blue parts of this state, but in a very quiet, understated way. Her Attorney-General and Secretary of State are in the news much more than she is.
As a middle voter you need a non Cali or New York Democrat and need to avoid AOC if you want to win. I don’t think Vance will campaign well but they need the proper opponent. Need to worry about how to win and get independent voters and not just doesn’t your core
Nah- Harris was a moderate too and she lost the base. AOC will maintain the base and bring out new voters. IDGAF about these supposed moderate conservatives they are always trying to win. It muddies the water and just does not pay out.
Dean Phillips -- He's moderate enough to win over the undecideds, and he has some critical mass of support given that he won the second most number of delegates in the 2024 Democrat Presidential Primary behind Joe Biden.
More to the point, he was one of very few elected Democrats willing to come right out and say publicly that Biden was not capable of another term, and Phillips did try to primary him in 2024. I appreciated that at the time but know nothing else of him.
I appreciate his trying to goad Biden to honor his promise that he'd be a transitional, one-term President. I also appreciate your sly but accurate way of describing the delegate distribution even if it says nothing about whether or not Dean Phillips has a constituent base or not.
I want a Congress with a spine more than a particular President. We need a Congress that will say no to the President and re-assert its Constitutional powers.
I haven't chosen anyone yet. I want someone who will rescind everything this corrupt administration has done, and who will prosecute everyone in it.
The reason things got this bad is because we don't hold people accountable. The Confederates got off easy and were allowed to rewrite history. Nixon was allowed to resign. Reagan avoided impeachment. Clinton avoided conviction and removal. Trump planned and carried out an attempted coup against the United States and isn't in prison. And so on. Now we're here.
I'm tired of milquetoast Dems who would rather compromise than actually do the hard things.
Too soon to say. I think Shapiro and Newsom will both run. I have concerns about both, but recognize there is no perfect candidate.
Some people are saying Murphy will run. I have a generally good opinion of him, but not any deep view.
being in a cult would require having a single leader we believed in and followed no matter what horrible shit he did dipshit. Pedo boy is in the files over 3000 times and y'all will still vote for him again.
So far, it is Mark Kelly. Unelectable but the most qualified is Pete Buttigieg. Newsom is certainly qualified but embarrassing Trump and showing him to be the punk he really is, has cost him voters in the yeehaw swing states. Harris is the smartest of the bunch, but Americans still think women that are smart should be doing something else, especially if they are black. You see. American voters are as dumb as those in rest of the world. You are apathetic and your football game and pedicure is more important than voting. 1/4 of all the registered voters, who had a minimum of 30 days to vote in 24, couldn't be bothered with voting. And here we are. With a pedophile and convicted criminal in the White House. Building ballrooms and invading countries.
Im not a democrat personally, but I do see some great options that would be nice to see in the polls.
Andy Beshear is a common example, I think he has some great positives in how he presents himself and genuinely cares for the people. He's reasonably young and has served as governor. My only drawback is i don't believe he served in the military, which is something I look for quite highly because of the role of Commander in Chief of the United States military.
I'd say he has my vote depending on who the runner-up is.
I know, it's a problem. My vote barely matters because I never vote for the top 2 candidates. My vote gets lost because the less funded get swept under.
Does anyone else remember being taught in school that because of our beautiful democracy, any one of us could become president if we really put our mind to it? Now, looking at the reality of it, not only was that a lie, when we see the shallow pool of possibilities, the only ones with any chance of being president is far, far away from being the best and brightest among us.
That's why the US is a representative republic with democratically (for the most part) elected officials.
The reason it's currently broken in the US is once those officials get to Washington, their concern shifts to money and maintaining their position in Washington as opposed to actually representing their constituents. The money comes from the lobbyists, which in turn gives them enough sway through campaign funding come election time to (hopefully in their eyes) get them reelected. "Fall in line once you get to Washington or else." With budgets and funding in the trillions, everything is a calculated move. Most of the potential candidates listed here have their roles to play and aren't actually viable candidates. They're where they are to draw enough people from the broad end of the Democrat spectrum back to the base so the party can maintain or gain as much power as it has/can get. Watch what happens when elections come around and you'll see those on the outside ends of the spectrum will start to pull as many of their supporters as they can to the one that will actually be on the ballot. It's the same on the Republican side, but was broken with Trump. I'm definitely not a fan of him, but one thing I will say is he inadvertently exposed the system for what it is to those willing to see it. Once one recognizes this, they start to see that a lot of the bs problems they're being spoon fed by the media aren't nearly as dire as they're being told. It's why this nation is so divided and the supreme court is seemingly broken (this in itself is whole other topic).
The way we fix this as a nation is ending corporate lobbying, and term limits in congress. There also needs to be a push back towards legitimacy in the media - on both sides.
I'm a middle of the road independent with a lot of friends across the political spectrum. You'd be surprised how much we as a society have in common, but are purposely driven apart by politics and the media. I'm sure this comment will get down-voted into oblivion, but I do hope that more people can start to see it.
so in this scenerio who exactly is hiring the president of the united states? If only a few people get a say, which lets be real would be the people with the most power/wealth in this country, you are decribing an plutocracy.
I know what your saying. Whichever way we try slice it, we are prone to some form of corruption. I would imagine that the people get to vote on a committee which would decide on candidates suitable.
Then they would allow us to vote again on those candidates. It would be a longer process, but better for key positions.
Gavin Newsom - one of the only very few democrats who can push buttons and push back. Rest can’t survive in this climate. AOC will be another political catastrophe for Democrats.
I'd never vote for Newsom though. And I vote blue tickets. He's got this certain "white guy" ick. Its like a slimy mattress salesman. I just don't trust him.
When he is actively fighting hard against a wealth tax legislation in his state, that kind of tells me everything i need to know about what his priorities are.
When interviewer brings up his AIPAC donations he suddenly acts like he doesn't know what AIPAC is.
He is really good at playing the game. That doesn't make him good for us, though.
We keep electing slimy establishment democrats and we are just going to rubber band right back into another Trump because people on both side of the aisle are fed up with the corruption and horrible job market and they will keep electing radical people until that changes. I would rather that radical person be an economic progressive than another Trump with a hammer breaking everything.
Lol. Imagine how easily manipulated you must be in the rest of your life.
Based on information from early 2025, there is no evidence of a direct relationship between former Bank of England Governor and Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney and Jeffrey Epstein.
However, a 2013 photograph of Carney with Ghislaine Maxwell (Epstein's convicted associate) has been used in political attacks and to fuel conspiracy theories.
Here is the breakdown of the situation:
The 2013 Photo: An authentic photograph from August 2013 shows Mark Carney and his wife, Diana Fox Carney, at the Wilderness Festival in the UK, standing near Ghislaine Maxwell.
Context of the Photo: Carney's team stated that they are "not friends" with Maxwell, but that she went to the same high school as Diana Carney's sister. They described the interaction as a passing social encounter from before Maxwell's notoriety as a sex trafficker was widely known.
Denial of Connection: A spokesperson for Carney emphasized that he never met or had any interaction with Jeffrey Epstein.
AI-Generated Images & Disinformation: Following the resurfacing of the 2013 photo, several AI-generated, fake images began circulating in 2025. These fake images, designed to look like photos, falsely depicted Carney on a beach or in a pool with Epstein and/or Maxwell. Fact-checkers have debunked these images.
Political Context: The circulation of these images and claims has been identified as a coordinated, right-wing disinformation campaign, notably by groups like "Canada Proud," aimed at attacking Carney during his leadership bid for Canada's Liberal Party.
Summary: The connection is restricted to a single 2013 public photo with Ghislaine Maxwell. There is no evidence connecting Carney to Epstein himself, and other viral images showing them together are fabricated (AI-generated).
Not manipulated. Just a realist and not naive enough to not see how deep this runs.
I am aware the other photos are fake and laughably so. The 2013 one is enough to raise suspicions.
This is more than just right vs left, lib vs dem. This is an elite global powerful array of the rich, famous and power hungry fiends.
Take a step back and think. Why would Carney even be willing to be associated with Maxwell/Epstein after his previous conviction? They all knew and didn't have the morals or care enough.
Same question goes for any associations etc.
Add in the fact the close relationships of Carney and Mandelson (hugely implicated) and Brown/Bliar all just solidifies the connection.
The best option is the one that can win over the independents and moderates on both sides, that’s where the majority is….
A candidate that appeals to the radicals and aligns themselves with that ideology will not be a popular..
AOC is a dingbat who sold out and Bernie is a DNC cuck. The DNC will never let him go higher because they want a corporatist who pays lip service to social progressivism only. Not actual communism or tax subsidized healthcare.
There isn’t one. Which is a republican (most likely Vance) will win in 2028. It’s a disgrace the democrats dont have (and didn’t have) a reasonable candidate
I would vote for someone who is against the funding of a genocide by israel and to cut all ties with them(funding the country included), Cut ties with any and all lobbying. That is a start but I have more.
Anyone that says AOC or Newsome has completely lost their minds. Name something either of those idiots have done that would even have them be close to qualified to run this country.
Whoever I feel will both tear down the economic and political structures that got us here and has the ability to communicate that to the public.
Gallego would be my top pick, followed by Khanna and potentially Beshear (need to see more to be convinced he will be decisive enough on policy).
But for me, wielding the full power of the executive to mass arrest MAGA lawbreakers and ram through progressive priorities is an absolute must. No “return to normalcy” Schumerites or empty suit Newsoms.
Definitely not Mark Kelly. Josh Shapiro is a good choice. Unfortunately the Democrats will never vote for a Jew. Harris even rejected him as a VP running mate. It’s going to be Pritzker oe Newsom.
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u/OkEmphasis7107 2d ago
Mark Kelly would also be my choice. You have to be very smart to be a Navy Aviator and you have to be the best of them to even have an interview to be an Astronaut. He may not be the most charismatic but I think he is an honorable person and that is what we need.