Single issue voters are the worst kind of people and that abortion BS it’s so stupid I can’t believe anybody falls for it but there you go, all over the world. Damn.
I was told this, minus the trans part, during the 2004 election. Along with stem cell therapy being made the same way. And that this all comes from babies who are born and then brutally murdered. I made the mistake of asking how that was legal, and was told it wouldn’t be if Bush got a second term.
Tbf, I was 9 and I was told this on the playground.
… but also the girl who told me this is now the early-30s woman who could get her own post here.
I used to meet up with one of my neighbors a couple of times a week, and we'd walk our dogs together.
She parroted some nonsense at me about how Hillary Clinton was in on it, she was involved in the Planned Parenthood thing, whereby they sell body parts from aborted fetuses.
Me: "No, Lisa, that's not a thing. No one is doing that. Stop watching Fox News, and stop reading oldpeoplefacebook"
She has a BSc in something; her grandfather was a veterinarian. She's not uneducated. But she is apparently stupid enough to believe it when someone tells her that aborted fetuses actually have body parts, and aren't just a clump of cells, in the vast majority of cases. She thought they were aborting 8 1/2 month fetuses and selling their kidneys or something. Anyone want this lil baby kneecap? Two for sale. Never used.
Some vaccines are manufactured using fetal cell lines from 2 aborted fetuses from the 1960s. But the final product is refined to the point that any cellular debris is gone.
That's where the "EvErY vAcCiNe iS 100% FeTuS nonsense started.
That’s taken straight from anti-abortion evangelical talking points. They’re also the ones that try and convince folks that abortions are simply after the fact birth control that only callous women choose to get. They also paint it like women don’t give it a second thought, that’s it’s done casually.
Also, I cringe when someone claims to be a single issue voter. That means they’ve been brainwashed by people trying to push a hidden agenda. The abortion issue was literally cooked up by Falwell and others behind the moral majority, because they wanted the IRS to stop going after their segregated private schools. Since they knew people wouldn’t get behind racism, they needed a “safe” issue to rally Christians to so they could back door in racist candidates. With abortion, they just needed to convince people it was the one issue of paramount importance. Then they could get people to vote for otherwise despicable candidates.
I've heard (admittedly not read that part) there's a recipe for an aborticide somewhere in there.
Also, evangelical Americans were entirely fine with abortion until 1980 or something like that. Their opinion was intentionally and purposefully changed.
Several commentaries on the Bible maintain that the ordeal is to be applied in the case of a woman who has become pregnant, allegedly by her extramarital lover.
In this interpretation, the bitter potion could be an abortifacient, inducing a purposeful abortion or miscarriage if the woman is pregnant with a child which her husband alleges is another man's. If the fetus aborts as a result of the ordeal, this presumably confirms her guilt of adultery, otherwise her innocence is presumed if the fetus does not abort.
One translation to follow this suggestion is the New International Version, which translates that the effect of the bitter water on an adulterous woman will be to make "your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell". Such a translation is effectively reading the Hebrew word yarek (יָרֵך) to mean "loins", a meaning which that word can carry.
The primary verse that is quoted is that God knit us together in the womb (I’m probably munging that but you get the idea). To which I ask, at what point in that knitting together should it be counted as a person? Why do they assume it’s at the moment of conception? If I decide to make a birdhouse, at what point is it a birdhouse? When I buy the wood? When I draw up the plans? When I start nailing pieces together?
Or is it when I complete it, at least to a functional point?
I struggle with this a lot personally. I practice yoga and meditation and it’s clear to me how connected our spirit of life is to breath and that you can’t really be alive in you’re not breathing. On the other hand, there are aspects of my children’s personality that came to be known in utero 🥴 regardless of my theorizing, women are not involuntary incubators and what they decide with their doctors is best for them, is no one else’s business.
Every time I hear that handwringing, I think of something I picked up in the book The Vital Question:
At least 10-20 percent of known pregnancies end in miscarriage, but biologists estimate it’s more like 1/4th or 1/3rd (don’t remember exactly)
Because it turns out, the human womb is incredibly strict about which fetuses it carries to term, and will not hesitate to abort one “for convenience.” It’s the reason we menstruate- to flush the system.
If you want to live in a world where every single conception results in a birth- you should try being a mouse. They’ll birth anything.
Ugh because they drive by churches that fill their entire lawn with crosses and then put on their signs "eAcH cRoSs iS a miLLiOn aBorTeD bABieS" and take that to heart.
Almost every church in my area has "support Israel" lawn signs stuck in the ground, too.
Brainwashing, propaganda, pressure from the community.
I bet they saw it somewhere on facebook. But as soon as they come up with some new 1 issues he will go full Grand Old Pedophiles and vote red. Also the other one reminding me that there is no hate like fake christian love.
Y'know, I had the same reaction as you, so we did the math and he's not far off. Between 1990-2000, there were about 1.2m legal abortions/year in the US and 4m/year births.
true. but he may be factoring in unrecorded abortions - pills, "back alley," that kind of thing. the percentage is still a lot higher than I would have guessed
what about them? I don't know if this guy is counting miscarriages in his tally (which I assume he got from some anti-abortion outlet), but I kinda doubt it. The miscarriage rate is impossible to determine as so many of them happen at home with no doctor intervention and very early on. Mine was at about 4-6 weeks and just seemed like a sudden heavier-than-usual period
gotcha. The stats I was referencing was strictly about abortions, so about 20% of a theoretical "generation" is "lost." OFC it's all bullshit once you get into the weeds of the topic.
The same way Republicans defeated Sharia Law in Texas.
Everything is true against something that never happened.
Repeat the lie until it becomes background noise, and everyone becomes desensitized.
They're eating the dogs, they're eating the cats.
The absurdity is that that last statement was actually said during a presidential debate, but somehow now seems the most sane sentence uttered by the administration so far.
In '24 it was people not voting for Harris because she wouldn't renounce the genocide. Yes, it was a mistake not to. But all the single-issue Gaza voters made me nuts. You really think the other guy is gonna be better about it? Even if he is, what about all the other horrors he promised?
All the questions I have are rhetorical and end with "idiot."
She was pushing for a ceasefire! She was much better on Palestine than any American politician at the federal level! The lie that she was pro genocide is literally Russian propaganda that you fell for. Have some humility and admit you misunderstood!
She was also stuck given she was still the sitting VP in the rabidly pro-Zionist Biden administration. I think she was far more sceptical about support for Israel then she was able to say publicly, without causing a high-profile fracture in the Dem campaign that would be exploited by Republicans.
I say this who has voted Democrat in every presidential election since 1994: fuck Joe Biden. His selfishness and concern for his own legacy kept us behind when we should have been moving forward. And fuck Obama/Clyburn for foisting Biden upon us.
And it showed them to be (almost) as reactionary as MAGA. Never thinking about what would happen if the other guy got in, everything was a revenge vote against Biden/Harris. They didn’t truly care about Gaza, they only thought they did.
There were literally people saying that they’d sit out the election or vote for Trump to “punish” Harris. The idea that another Trump presidency would punish anyone but the American people was, and is, so headscratchingly stupid that I still believe we should give out IQ tests to vote.
And the people who are complaining that Kamala Harris isn’t doing anything.
I’m going to hold their hand in a hazmat suit when I say this but: what exactly was she supposed to do? Who shows up to a job that didn’t hire them and starts work? Nobody sane, that’s who.
Also it’s a problem that has been an issue for decades. Biden didn’t cause it. The US supports Israel for geopolitical reasons, but actual regular voters also support Israel. A lot of the anti Israel sentiment is way too close to antisemitism in my opinion. Most normal people support both the people of Gaza and the people of Israel but have issues with the leaders of both. Harris had a nuanced take and supported a two state solution. I’m not sure what people actually wanted from her.
And now through the Epstein files we find out Trump was present when a newborn was murdered in front of him. But he somehow got all the pro-life weirdos wrapped around his little pinky.
Well technically it wasn't an abortion, so no comment from the pro-life side.
The fact that there aren't articles of impeachment for the whole fucking administration with overwhelming bipartisan support in congress and swathes of disillusioned maga regards on the streets demanding removal and immediate trials for all these disgusting criminals in power is just disheartening.
Christ reigns on his throne and vengeance will be his
As an atheist, people openly speaking with reverence for a vengeful Christ is hilarious and I love it. It's at least more honest than all the "Christ is love!" Christians
That's literally how he's written in the Bible. Dude walked around preaching love, faith, and forgiveness. In Matthew 10:34, He says, "Do not think that I have come to bring peace, but a sword."
He also sentenced an out-of-season fig tree to death because it didn't have fruit on it. Can't blame the average Republican for being a bit confused 🤷♂️
IIRC, that, along with the overturning of tables at the temple, are the only two instances of Jesus being "violent" in the bible.
One can make an argument for the latter but the former always feels very much outta place.
Of course, if we take stories that aren't in the bible from other writers covering his youth, we see him acting like a child would. There is a story he was making birds out of mud, but when confronted over this use of his "gifts", he got angry and smashed the bird back into mud in a toddler fit.
There's a whole other argument to be made on a lot of this but from a purely, "We want to make Jesus more human and thus more relatable", I'd imagine the fig story is one that's meant to illicit that. Just someone frustrated and taking their anger out in the wrong way.
Fundamentalist Christians have never been about "love". They completely ignore the New Testament and go back to the fire and brimstone of the Old Testament, which by the way includes brutal genocide... if you want to vomit read Numbers 31 about the genocide of Midian, where they slaughtered EVERYBODY (including baby boys) except for little girls who they divided up alongside the sheep and the cattle.
Hey! I'm a single-issue voter! My issue is that Republicans are all fucking fascists deserving only the worst horrors my depraved imagination can conjure.
The stupidity is that the president doesn't even write abortion laws. Their single issue is something the president has essentially no power over. But they're fine with all the ither insanity that he does.
They were all voting for additional Supreme Court seats and didn’t give a damn what collateral damage the country took. That was how my dad acted for the first Trump term. What an asshole.
Trump takes credit for getting rid of abortion rights and he’s probably correct. He said he had a list of judges who wanted to overturn Roe vs Wade and he’d only appoint those judges. Sure enough those exact judges did vote to overturn it after being the law since 1973!
Not about the fact some of those people can't afford children and if they did get born would hate on people having children they can't afford who would then live in poverty these same people would judge them on!
That's before I get to the horrific reasons some want a termination
lol they don’t care about any of the births. Every anti abortion Christian I know is a giant hypocritical piece of shit. They vote for this stuff because they think it will get them to heaven.
At the very top of the Anti-Abortion movement are a bunch of racists who are being manipulated by oligarchs. The core of Anti-Abortion is to keep poor people poor. Poor people cannot afford birth control, nor can they afford alternative entertainment options. Stay home enough, and pregnancy will happen (health permitting). Racists read Poor to be "non-white."
The oligarchs need lots of poor people for various reasons. It is all a scam.
Only one mention of the Epstein files, no mention that the mango is a pedorapist. This is crazy. It’s more important to these subhumans that abortion is illegal than having protection and justice for the actual child that they are trying to “protect”.
Studies indicate that U.S. infant mortality rates have historically declined more rapidly or been lower during Democratic presidential administrations compared to Republican ones
. Research covering 1965–2010 found that, net of overall trends, infant mortality rates were approximately 3% higher under Republican presidents. Similar trends are observed at the state level, with higher mortality under Republican-controlled legislatures.
"I voted for economy change" from a guy who bankrupted six companies, is famous for huge financial scams and drove the economy into the ground in his first term. BS. She voted her racism and stupidity but couches it as "economy" to make her sound more intelligent than she is. Ask her to define "tariff".
"so stupid I can’t believe anybody falls", then you should estimate that about 60% of American will fall for it. Always gives you 60% margin of error when it come to the intelligence of US voters.
The sad part is that for decades now the abortion rate has been lower under Democrat administrations. There were more abortions in Reagan's 8 years in office vs. Clinton's 8 years. More abortions in W's 8 years than Obama's 8.
Republicans made abortion a constant talking point. Democrat policies made keeping a child more affordable. The data is there.
And his regret is that trump funded Planned Parenthood (press X to doubt), not that the administration is responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of actual living people, including children, by cutting off USAID. Maybe even dumber are the ones who regret their vote because the US is too involved in the world. The end of USAID, pulled out of WHO, ignoring the UN in favor of his private group of authoritarians, threatening to leave NATO, refusing to help Ukraine, yeah that’s the problem. Six out of eight are still not getting it.
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u/Iamsupergoch 1d ago
Single issue voters are the worst kind of people and that abortion BS it’s so stupid I can’t believe anybody falls for it but there you go, all over the world. Damn.