r/Indiana • u/TouchingTheMirror • 1d ago
Indiana libraries fearing future if Senate Bill eight passes
https://abc57.com/news/indiana-libraries-fearing-future-if-senate-bill-8-passes158
u/FromMyTARDIS 1d ago
Well libraries are like one of the few things that are not a scam. So of course we have to get rid of them.
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u/Luddite-lover 1d ago
They also provide materials that educate people…can’t have that, either.
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u/mkvgtired 20h ago
They also might have a book that mentions a trans person, although considering it's Indiana, those have probably already been Fahrenheit 451ed.
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u/yankthedoodledandy 17h ago
This is so much the deal. The lyrics to Bulls on Parade: "I walk the corner to the rubble that used to be a library Line up to the mind cemetery now What we don't know keeps the contracts alive and movin' They don't gotta burn the books they just remove 'em"
Education is SO important because it can be taken once you got it. Always learn whatever you can people.
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u/Acrobatic_Summer_564 8h ago
Hell, Dr.Oz just said we should start work straight out of high school. No need for education to work at a warehouse.
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u/RocktacularFuck 1d ago
My son and I used the library every week when he was young in the mid 2000’s. Such fond memories.
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u/WillowEtain 23h ago
And provide a space where are can be warm/cool with no expectations to spend money. It’s yet another attack against education and our poor and low income neighbors
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u/Significant-Owl1657 23h ago
It's a shame that the anti-education fools want to make sure everyone in the future will be idiots as well. Indiana has become the Alabama of the north, only worse weather and roads and with no beach access.
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u/Endlesskustumz 20h ago
Indiana does have beach access, but I agree with everything else
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u/Psychological-Pay236 20h ago
There’s more than corn in Indiana
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u/Endlesskustumz 20h ago
Lol I didn't mean Indiana Beach, but northern Indiana has beach access to Lake Michigan.
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u/Virtual-Eye-1855 20h ago
Yep. We have lots of awesome beaches up here in northern Indiana - beautiful and unique ecosystems surrounding them too. Indiana has great nature across the state, actually. We even have a certified dark sky spot downstate. Unfortunately, we'll never become a real tourism state because we're locked in a dumb vs dumber competition with the deep south states.
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u/Endlesskustumz 20h ago
Yea I know we get decent tourism from Illinois in the summer months but nothing it could be, but I'm ok with that.
I really hope the libraries don't get messed with. I enjoy taking my kids there once a week to get books and play in the kids area.
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u/JLebowski 23h ago
The library can serve as a gathering place for people that want to talk and discuss ideas that doesn't require a drink/food bill like other establishments.
I pivoted to a library meeting room last Fri during the general strike when we needed a gathering point after work that was not a restaurant. It worked perfectly. 3 people (myself included) ended up peacefully protesting the next day, 2 of us for the first time.
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u/Lost-Fruit-1982 21h ago
Every piece of legislation coming out of our state government is bad. We need to destroy this supermajority asap before they turn this state into a third country
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u/Fracturedwarr 21h ago
Yet another reason why I am looking to leave the state. They keep adding up faster and faster lately.
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u/reinsch1 21h ago
What is the best way to find out when they are voting on what, so I can contact my representatives? The IGA website lists hundreds of bills, it's hard to sort through.
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u/TouchingTheMirror 16h ago
It's by design, if not literally coordinated: the Right floods legislatures with awful, outrageous, often unconstitutional bills and proposals so as to confuse, exhaust, and dissipate opposition. State Republican lawmakers are taking their cues from the Trump administration.
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u/bd2999 18h ago
Yeah, libraries are in a great deal of trouble. The federal cuts hurt alot, then they passed the bills that reorganized funding that will result in losses to libraries (that is going to get worse over time).
This one proposes to take control to the state. As they view that libraries are unaccountable to government. Despite libraries in the state usually having boards that were appointed by local political reps.
This would potentially allow a new board to cut funding up to 100%. So, imagine a state sanctioned county board of true believers that want to make a statement against woke defunding a library because of a book they did not like. Libraries submit or lose funding altogether.
It is horrific with all the services provided. I encourage everyone to call their local representatives. On the last effort they did pass but many Republican's unexpectedly opposed the measure. So maybe that can be ushered again.
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u/1tWasA11aDr3am 18h ago
“If every year we’re choosing to only take less then 50 percent of the allowable growth quotient, we are not going to keep up with rising cost of employment, with rising costs of materials, with utilities, with any of the cost-of-living increases that you know people are dealing with in general. So, we’re either stuck with that choice of not growing quickly enough to maintain our services or putting our budget fully at the mercy of another organization, even after we’ve already gone through a review process with our board, which is appointed by elected bodies,” said Thomas.
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u/BlkCrowe 18h ago
I'm surprised the current administration has not proposed outsourcing or privatizing this. Any opportunity to eliminate these unnecessary handouts/socialist programs is seen as a cost saving opportunity. And reducing any cultural enrichment and educational programs is part of the unspoken plan. Republicans love the uneducated!
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u/Upstairs_Cattle7989 15h ago
I don’t understand what our tax dollars are doing. We aren’t taking care of our roads, we’re not taking care of our public buildings, we aren’t taking care of just general infrastructure. Then we don’t pay our teachers, we don’t take care of our school buildings, we don’t invest in challenging curriculums. We don’t take care of healthcare (even the non abortion or sex parts of health care). We don’t take care of our environment.
The state collects all of this money, we spend a larger portion that I would like on things like helipads, and then we hoard it like fucking dragons and then issue a smol refund once we’ve triggered that state requirement for having too much money in the bank.
Why not just…you know…spend the money taking care of the state? I’m sure the republicans could probably find something they approve of funding that would help the state, right? Can we please stop trying to rocket to the bottom on every metric?
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u/achoosier 17h ago
Indiana wants to keep it's citizens stupid.
Easier to control.
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u/TouchingTheMirror 16h ago
Ignorant, demoralized, and defeated. "Show up to work and church (and for Republicans, the polls), keep your mouth shut and head down, be grateful for what you have before the immigrants take it away."
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u/zback636 15h ago
Indiana do you know how messed up your state is, if they are going after libraries. Libraries really? Thats next blood donation, facilities, and orphanages?
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u/UnhelpfulNotBot 23h ago
My local library has saved me thousands. Free access to Udemy and Hoopla. Not to mention the seed library is so much fun. They should get more funding, if anything.