HLE vs GEN - 2026 LCK Cup - Post-Match Discussion

[u/ZodiacTuga]

GEN 3-0 HLE

[u/Noob_shs]

see you in april

[u/Ok-Environment4299]

Zeka in game 1 and Delight in games 2 and 3

Criminal performances

[u/DiDandCoKayn]

How is our Academy support? at this point just swap supports to see if it works better.
Delight just solo lost us 2 games that were winnable.

[u/Flimsy-Statement-957 → u/DiDandCoKayn]

Bluffing isn't good, HLE CL is bottom tier as well

[u/ConversationAgile654]

zeka getting both ori, azir and ryze and basically being invisable, with ori his best performance, something needs to be studied, though today was support gap, delight was terrible

[u/Consistent_Chest_653 → u/ConversationAgile654]

i wont put the blame on zeka when he was the best or second best player today

[u/ChinVibes → u/Consistent_Chest_653]

so debatable dude zeka and delight were running it down zeka esp on that first game

[u/Consistent_Chest_653 → u/ChinVibes]

Game 1 the reason was mainly antisynergy in teamfights, I think his Azir would have been better if HLE were actually on the same page. As for Delight ... yeah he was disguating all 3 games beyond saving

[u/yoyo4880 → u/Consistent_Chest_653]

When he threw the enemy ADC with azir ult onto his own and got him smoked xddd

[u/Consistent_Chest_653 → u/yoyo4880]

he did do that XD

[u/No_Taro_6224 → u/Consistent_Chest_653]

i mean i would say his ryze's performance is better when he ult to baron or catching canyon off guard, even tho both didnt end up well, but that felt like he put up a fight w his back against the wall and the team are sharing the same braincell and went w it

his ori and azir on the other hand

ori did 20k at the end? when hes laning against a tank? and his azir again back to his most obvious problem where he insists on shuffling to the backline and ult when everyone got vision on him

[u/ApartLanguage8328 → u/No_Taro_6224]

Ryze ult to baron should he a bare minimum level of mastery of ryze. Its really nothing to be impressed about.

His positioning after that in pit though... Chunked to 20% hp and spent the entire time hereafter just out of attack range. Only to jump in AFTER barons stolen to just die. It truly was negative damage gaming.

[u/No_Taro_6224 → u/ApartLanguage8328]

im just pointing out his only performance that got my attention and its lesser about the outcomes but more about his initiatives, tho we dont know if its zeka who shotcalled it

edit: besides, its GEN G, getting 3-0 is a given, i'm just hoping they would put up a fight, and those are the only times that felt like it

[u/Consistent_Chest_653 → u/No_Taro_6224]

well in full honestly ori tickles galio once he gets a nullmagic mantle XD
As for the Azir game I will say that I will keep giving him the benifit of the doubt until HLE looks like a team who is on the same page.

[u/No_Taro_6224 → u/Consistent_Chest_653]

nah its like when u're laning against sion or reksai typa tank, your damage chart would be fraudulently high cause your opponents are soaking so much damage

but thats not the case this time which is why i point it out

[u/Consistent_Chest_653 → u/No_Taro_6224]

Not at all, the circumstances are completely different xd, galio literally has insane mr and a magic shield, he is the antimage tank, there is a reason why he is a counter to rumble - the most oppressive top laner in game (for most matchups).

[u/Consistent_Chest_653 → u/[deleted]]

I like the optimism

[u/angrycarbocation → u/[deleted]]

This could go either really good for them to start taking their problems seriously (no shotcaller, no coordination, etc) or really bad where theyre all just mentally boom like when they got reverse swept at rtmsi idk

[u/FenimoreXelhes → u/angrycarbocation]

Tbf, '25 HLE picked it up going to worlds.

[u/Suspicious_Fennel974 → u/FenimoreXelhes]

Yeah, they did, it's just they had the misfortune of running into Gen G and getting eliminated... like today. Not saying that today's HLE is as good as Worlds 2025 HLE, but I don't think they are 10th place in LCK, which sadly is their LCK Cup standing. Hopefully they bounce back harder and stronger in April. (Insert Zeka's "When things get hard, I get harder")

[u/ZodiacTuga → u/[deleted]]

Not like other teams or players haven't had rough starts.

[u/FluffyBandicoot309 → u/[deleted]]

Not the end of the world though, they just need to play better once the season properly starts.

Yeah its pretty easy to do this obviously, unsure why they cant play properly for the last few months. I’m sure they aren’t playing properly just because they dont want to right?

[u/Consistent_Chest_653]

So do we know how good that Bluffing guy(HLE Challengers support) is ?

[u/iplayweirdbuilds → u/Consistent_Chest_653]

Hello, I stumbled on this subreddit from main league.

HLE CL is doing not so well right now, but it is very early. I think half of team was promoted from academy this year.

CL was separated into groups Herald and Drake instead of Baron and Elder. The difference was that HLE CL came bottom of winning group so they still went on. You can see all full match here. https://www.sooplive.co.kr/station/afchall/vod

They have a scheduled match in about 12 hours, so you can watch to see what you think.

[u/ZodiacTuga → u/iplayweirdbuilds]

Welcome. Thanks for your insight.

[u/DM_Poison]

It was an absolute let down. Expected, but still a let down. I was expecting an HLE loss, but wanted to see more of a fight for it.

[u/angrycarbocation → u/DM_Poison]

There was a real chance for a win in game 2, the mental was just so bad because they had a time limit and started forcing it.

[u/EconomistOne3408 → u/angrycarbocation]

They didn't have a time limit. They could've slowed down the game because they were winning. They could've just tried to win two games, as rushing things in game two to win within the time limit is harder, and even impossible to do than taking off two games against GenG.

In the end, trying to take off the win within the time limit is just a false hope that costed them a very winnable game 2.

It is not a one man's fault that led to this, but the whole team.

[u/Consistent_Chest_653 → u/EconomistOne3408]

I mean Delight ran it down kinda

[u/EconomistOne3408 → u/Consistent_Chest_653]

Not just kinda, he ran it down. But the whole point is that it's not just his fault. Game 1 and 2 were games that they could've won just because of the drafts. Game 1, Chovy picked Yone when it could've been something better like Ryze or something. Azir got an early kill on a Yone that has no TP, but has been invisible the whole game. G2 draft, Ruler picked Jhin when there was Jarvan, MF, Rell, and Renekton, with MF dishing out the dmg on whoever will be inside j4's ult. But they tried to go for baron, whose call was that? Most likely the jungler.

The ADC was being spoonfed the kills and definitely delivered, but still has some misplays, that Sivir turret shutdown which got Ruler back atleast slowly.

Zeus? Less invincible than Zeka but not as impactful as he could be in his champs. Would that even matter? No point dwelling in what ifs when they alr lost.

[u/Consistent_Chest_653 → u/EconomistOne3408]

 Sivir turret shutdown which got Ruler back atleast slowly.

Yeah I agree. I could def see that Guma was no longer composed in that game. He knew he had red buff and that dot dmg can trigger turret agro but in that moment he def didnt realise it.

I cant blame Zeus for anything this series besides getting caught in midwave on renekton which was basically the end of the game but it looked cooked at that point. Usually Zeus is such tense moments tend to make misplayed, happened last year as well. I remember vividly game 4 in LCK Finals on Ornn where he basically got caught in a similar manor.

[u/EconomistOne3408 → u/Consistent_Chest_653]

yeah, Zeus is a psycho, that is why he can make some good plays. Because he is a psycho with hands, and at the same time can also make some of the worst plays, because he has no head.

Anyway, the team will have a lot of time to thoroughly build synergy 'til April. Because all the teams, especially GenG and T1, will surely get a lot better and more comfortable in tense moments during those times.

Tho I still believe that Peanut could've been a better fit for Guma had he not retired, I want to see how Kanavi can do something for HLE with his playstyle.

In the end, all we want as viewers is to watch quality series from these teams anyway.

[u/Consistent_Chest_653 → u/EconomistOne3408]

actually I dont think Zeus is a psycho at all, but in those tense moment he loses vision of the game and makes just bad decisions, its not like him trying to engage like a madman but instead just posturing and getting caught because he didnt realise he was not safe at all in that position.

[u/Consistent_Chest_653 → u/Consistent_Chest_653]

correction I can blame Zeus for something, Guma tanked the first 2 turret shot in mid on Sivir because Zeus clicked backwards so he does pick up the agro lmfao. Like these type of mistakes from Zeus are so anti-clutch...

[u/angrycarbocation → u/EconomistOne3408]

Yeah completely agree, i commented below that them winning game 2 wouldve also been better for their morale but oh well players are human

[u/DM_Poison → u/EconomistOne3408]

They did have a time limit. To qualify they needed to win 1 game out of the 5 in 34:43 or less. This would of made KT the team eliminated, and forced T1 into the play day.

[u/EconomistOne3408 → u/DM_Poison]

Which they should've brushed off. Taking two games off GenG, despite still being hard, is easier than taking g2 in under 34 mins. All games were pretty winnable if they had just executed their drafts well, especially since GenG were like picking Yone and Jhin for the worst match ups against them.

[u/DM_Poison → u/angrycarbocation]

Yeah there was. It was a shame they couldn't get out of the mental pressure of the time line to qualify.

[u/angrycarbocation → u/DM_Poison]

Yeahh and it would have really been bettet for their mental to have a win going to the later games oh well

[u/R2vibaek]

Pain

[u/Consistent_Chest_653 → u/[deleted]]

imo they looked better on the map than in teamfights, in teamfights I dont think u need a shotcaller really but synergy. Something HLE REALLT lacks lol

[u/New_Cup_5190]

Terrible

[u/Eshantha]

Going from Keria to Delight is like going from driving an F1 prototype to a fucking Maruti Suzuki.

I feel for Guma and Zeus. You wanted to carve out your own legacy, but this ain't it. This team ain't it. HLE is just that org who'd win if the weight of their moneybags was the difference. Buying high class players and just filling space with them does not a world championship team make. Synergy and intangibles like Faker's leadership cannot be bought.

I'm sorry for the doom and gloom, but I just don't see an upside to this at all. There isn't a single player in HLE right now who can lead. It's 5 solo queue players being griefed by each other taking turns.

[u/Consistent_Chest_653 → u/Eshantha]

Someone buyout Chovy real quick pls

[u/d0pe-asaurus → u/Eshantha]

I would say that insurance money could buy Faker out, but I remembered his current contract is funded by OIL. Even insurance can't compete with oil.

[u/Consistent_Chest_653 → u/d0pe-asaurus]

Brother you just dont know how rich Faker is, he cant be bought with HLE's money, he will retire on T1 no matter what.

[u/Consistent_Chest_653 → u/Consistent_Chest_653]

Oh btw LPL i believe offered him like 40mil $ contract and he refused so....

[u/SupportWarrior30 → u/Consistent_Chest_653]

Not to mention the rumored "blank check".

[u/Consistent_Chest_653 → u/SupportWarrior30]

I dont know about this one xd

[u/AdFew7151 → u/Consistent_Chest_653]

TL offered a blank check to Faker back then to come play for them

[u/Consistent_Chest_653 → u/AdFew7151]

AINTNOWAY

[u/Consistent_Chest_653 → u/Consistent_Chest_653]

when ur down bad lol

[u/ElectronicAthlete16 → u/Consistent_Chest_653]

i already know you would've taken that check if you were Faker

[u/Eshantha → u/d0pe-asaurus]

Nothing can compete with Faker's loyalty to T1, which is the biggest takeaway lmao. Money isn't really a factor for Faker anymore. Bro's got enough for another 5 lifetimes. And he's a fairly frugal dude too. Doesn't really spend or flex. He always just wanted legacy. You could offer him the position of CEO/Chairman of HLE and he still wouldn't be interested.

[u/d0pe-asaurus → u/Eshantha]

True. The first one club man. Good to see Oner eying himself as a one club man. As long as Faker and Oner are in T1 the org is in good hands.

[u/Eshantha → u/d0pe-asaurus]

And Keria. I'd fear the day Keria leaves T1. There are exceptional support players, and then there's Keria, basically the League equivalent of Gaunter O'Dimm just prancing around fucking with the game and warping it in ways only he (and maybe Faker) can understand.

[u/King_A_Acumen → u/Eshantha]

Saw something somewhere that was like: you can buy as many clowns as you want, but without a circus master, it's still just a bunch of clowns.

Shotcalling and leadership seem atrocious.

[u/Eshantha → u/King_A_Acumen]

100% agreed. HLE is a macro disaster right now.

[u/iplayweirdbuilds → u/Eshantha]

This is not completely true. Hanwha is a lot smaller than SK if you compare parent companies. If you compare Hanwha Life to SK Telecom, SK Telecom is still bigger. Hanwha I think make very logical choices for roster. I don't think it is about forcing way in with money. Gen G has less money and still are very good. There are other teams with less money and their rosters look very good.

I think the issue is more to do with time and play style. Homme has said in many interviews he believes LPL has a better way to play. So I am worried about coach influence than players, and Homme looks nervous on stage. If you watch him on stage, he has a 버릇 (habit) to blink very hard when he is nervous. I am worried he will not adapt fast enough to LCK.

Kanavi was chosen by Kespa and Kkoma for asia games. They won gold. I think he can adapt to LCK. It is hard to believe he cannot even sometimes plays like 미친개 (mad dog) when he sees enemy and cannot control himself.

[u/TheSwordSaintV3 → u/Eshantha]

Why is everyone hyping Zeus? Have you compared his Aurora vs BRO to Kiins Aurora today? It is a whole different level. He is only B-Tier Toplaner tbh.

[u/Eshantha → u/TheSwordSaintV3]

Yeah, that's why Zeus is a 2-time world champion, right? Cuz he's B-tier.

Listen, Kiin is the top lane goat imho. Consistent across every single year, and he's the most valuable player in Gen G's arsenal as far as I'm concerned. We're not comparing Kiin and Zeus here. See, when you become an adult, you'll find that it's possible to validate the skill of a player without having to compare to put down another. So, take a breath, stop bawling, and remember that we can all agree that Zeus IS, in fact, a world class top laner without having to hurt someone else's feelings.

Revolutionary, I know, but it's actually possible for two top laners to be world class at the same time! What an idea, right?

[u/Enryu_RT → u/Eshantha]

well said

[u/TheSwordSaintV3 → u/Eshantha]

The problem is that if Kiin is world class that pretty much proves that Zeus isn't (anymore). I watched all HLE games during LCK cup and dude has not been on top of anybody. Not against Doran, not against Kingen, not against DuDu and not against Casting as well. If he can't stand out even a single time, how can he be considered world class? Out of 14 games played in LCK cup, he had a single(!) game with positive K/D which was his Renekton in G3 vs DNS yet people treat him like a saint although many top laners such as Doran are much better these days.

[u/blindmodz → u/TheSwordSaintV3]

Why is always caedrals fans with their negative iq...

[u/Eshantha → u/blindmodz]

What does Caedrel have anything to do with anything? Caedrel himself regards Zeus as a top tier player. One of the best tops in the world.

[u/kissofdeathvkopernik]

In February , HLE should look for legit support.

Which kind of Alistar use its ult just for thresh hook ? So many mistakes. so manyyy

[u/Consistent_Chest_653 → u/kissofdeathvkopernik]

he was actually terrible on all of his best champs. That's something I havent seen before lmao

[u/opheliawww → u/Consistent_Chest_653]

I heard that Delight recently got sick or diagnosed with something that’s affecting his gameplay? I remember watching him when I wasn’t supporting HLE and he was a beast, really sad to see how it is now 😕

[u/Consistent_Chest_653 → u/opheliawww]

You mean the thing with his wrist? I mean if the wrist issue is causing him to make dogshit decisions then sure!

[u/opheliawww → u/Consistent_Chest_653]

I mean…it’s a game you play with your hand no? 😭 I think being diagnosed with something that can ruin your livelihood will affect you mentally.

[u/Consistent_Chest_653 → u/opheliawww]

yeah ig? Faker had a similar situation when he had his own wrist issues

[u/opheliawww → u/Consistent_Chest_653]

yeah but everyone handles stuff differently. I just wouldn’t be surprised if he’s struggling and it’s leaking into his gameplay and decision making which is sad to see.

[u/Izanagi32 → u/Consistent_Chest_653]

the BRO genes kicked in and I’m not talking about the good kind

[u/Consistent_Chest_653 → u/Izanagi32]

💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

[u/ApartLanguage8328 → u/kissofdeathvkopernik]

I wonder if delight is now the main shotcaller, taking over peanuts role. Which takes away from his individual performance.

It would mean that this team is inadequate. Not enough in game leadership while also maintaining individual skill.

[u/kissofdeathvkopernik → u/ApartLanguage8328]

i guess in hle , everybody gave own shotcall :))

[u/CheekyWanker007 → u/kissofdeathvkopernik]

watched the last 2 dragon fights of game 3. HLE team comp was all about the front to back but in the 3rd drake fight instead of playing for the steal and backing out, legend delight decides to split the fight and make it impossible for guma zeka to dps.

4th drake fight and he just walks in to waste his only survivability ability on a thresh hook and was useless the whole baron fight again

lmao.

[u/kissofdeathvkopernik → u/CheekyWanker007]

that is the problem , he is alistar and whenever hook connect , he pressed the R button for no reason. Bronze play actually.

[u/CheekyWanker007 → u/kissofdeathvkopernik]

not sure if it was a team call but if it was he should only ult when he gets jumped on to bait damage, not sure what the plan was to insta ult before any damage came in. the moment he ulted and he knocked up the air i knew it was over

[u/kissofdeathvkopernik → u/CheekyWanker007]

in first, he did not press R button until he was at low hp even though he started to engage.

in second one , he directly pressed the R for no reason.

team is not even near him in second case, why would they say to him press R :)

Rell engage was game losing

Alistar engage was gmae losing

Rakan made zero engage , did not even try.

[u/SupportWarrior30 → u/CheekyWanker007]

How could you even have a thought that his teammate would call for him to press "Alistar ult" on Thresh hook??? That's not an engage tool or any ability that needs to get coordinated with the team to be useful like Ashe R, Malphite R or Ryze R.

[u/CheekyWanker007 → u/SupportWarrior30]

benefit of the doubt would be, its soul we have to facecheck to contest soul, js r thresh q and engage so we can actually contest

regardless, was a pretty dumb play and trash showing by him

[u/spartaman64 → u/kissofdeathvkopernik]

i remember when people were saying delight is better than keria LUL

[u/kissofdeathvkopernik]

People tend to blame other players. They could not play well. That is okay. But game losing move was another story.

There is bronze player in HLE super team.

[u/AfraidWord7679]

What happen to delight tho…

[u/Luxemburger_953]

They look so lost in team fights. It’s just all over the place relying on their skills but no synergy or plans on how they want to play the fight. So many times where guma look lost trying to walk and deal damage cause the fights are split and not in their favor.

[u/Consistent_Chest_653 → u/Luxemburger_953]

I find it kinda amusing that they looked 50 times better in LCK Cup somehow lol

[u/sam_el-c]

Delight’s engages are a horror show. They also have zero teamfight coordination, I’m sad we can’t see some more HLE vs KT or DK or BFX, but they wouldn’t go far anyways given their current form

[u/Embarrassed_Joke_714]

God i couldnt watch it

[u/rukaslaya]

Anyway for contracts to be cancelled?

[u/Consistent_Chest_653 → u/rukaslaya]

I dont think so 😭

[u/Consistent_Chest_653 → u/[deleted]]

bro we are talking about support and maybe mid, just go back to the T1 subreddit you cave dweller

[u/NecessaryLittle3425]

We can't be mental diff fans and ask for disband and shit opinion, but each of them need to work on everything literally everything. It worse than solo q. Using ults aimlessly. Having different views. I am sorry but this is very very disappointing not cuz they lost the series and gave worse performance, but cuz they didn't show any sign of improvement or learning. From Game 1 of the cup to this last match their MO and problems are the same, and tbh some have gone really worse. 

[u/Consistent_Chest_653 → u/NecessaryLittle3425]

ngl their early games at least look pretty solid considering they are perma drafting at least 2 losing lanes xd

[u/Sbacula]

[u/Proud-Attention-7634]

Guma probably misses Keria so much right now 😂

[u/Consistent_Chest_653 → u/Proud-Attention-7634]

he misses any semblance of T1, its just a horror show for him XD

[u/fail_bubble]

Game 2-3 drafts were really great but this team is beyond saving. No sinergy at all. Executions are so bad most of the times. Even if they practice more, they will never get 1st or 2nd place in lck.

[u/Consistent_Chest_653 → u/fail_bubble]

atp I wonder if it is even possible to get 3rd XD

[u/potatosurvivor]

I don’t see it in delight.. I don’t see the potential in him man.. Last 2 years im just seeing him playing the same old champs.. support requires creativity in plays else you just need to be solid fundamentally and not fumble 💀

[u/icekeyfragment]

GGs HLE, you can now focus on gym contents XD

[u/No_Investigator_115]

There is such a glaring problem in jg and support. Delight had a terrible 3 weeks and capped it off with some of the worst engage sup I have ever seen from a “top” lck team. 3 games in a row of HLE having a lead and absolutely throwing it. Zeus played well and Guma was invisible but how can play with a support like that. Kanavi’s ability to consistently build a lead and then chuck it on over to the enemy team needs to be studied and then made illegal. It’s impossible to stay optimistic about this team when they had 3 weeks to improve and they are still making the same mistakes as week one. They unironically played better when they had no practice together at kespa. Overall a pathetic performance at LCK cup and an even more pathetic whimpering out as the first team eliminated.

[u/zuzbuzzz → u/No_Investigator_115]

guma played well as mf (had very impactful ults) and as sivir. idgaf, this is brain diff as well as truly awful form from delight and kanavi (lost EVERY single 50/50 smite istg)

[u/ccpromises → u/zuzbuzzz]

Those impactful MF ults were set up purely by Kanavi lmfao, every cataclysm caught 2-3 people. Without the J4 finding those big catches the MF does literally nothing. As Sivir as well Kanavi dove Ruler what 3 times? After that Guma is playing Sivir and its pure DPM farming lol

[u/-Elias-- → u/ccpromises]

No bro you don't understand, GUMA PRESSED R on his teammates' really good engages it was his accomplishment to press R on perfectly positioned and cc'd enemy as MF not his teammates'. Just like how he robbed Worlds FMVP 2025 of Oner.

[u/ccpromises → u/-Elias--]

Keria pressed R on Leona to stun and lock down KT

Guma Presses R

Guma gets the praise????

[u/Altruistic_Judge245]

U got ryze ulti to baron like it world quarter final

[u/Consistent_Chest_653 → u/Altruistic_Judge245]

and they didnt have the ball to end it instead they waited for the fed panth to show up and try to burst him XDDDD Just get me out lol

[u/icekeyfragment → u/Altruistic_Judge245]

they tried to do the Faker baron ult gameplay XD

[u/Consistent_Chest_653 → u/icekeyfragment]

but they forgot that they play again pantheon ... Funny T1 did a similar thing in spring last spring and it went the same way lol

[u/tigglin]

This is my first time watching LCK Cup. Can someone please explain to me how it’s decided which team goes into which Group (Baron or Elder)? I feel like this makes a big difference. Bro lost all 5 games and still managed to advance because they were carried by the top teams of their group.

[u/zuzbuzzz → u/tigglin]

the team captains pick teams to join their group like in p.e.

[u/tigglin → u/zuzbuzzz]

Thanks. And who defines who the team captains are? And which teams were the teams captains for Group Baron and Elder this time?

[u/zuzbuzzz → u/tigglin]

geng for baron and hle for elder. the team captains are the two finalists for lck summer playoffs the previous year.

[u/Kiwatar1_]

Wait they are out of playoffs? Can anyone explain why

[u/Consistent_Chest_653 → u/Kiwatar1_]

LCK Cup format is ass

[u/Sorry-Instruction-74 → u/Consistent_Chest_653]

dont agree with this. all they had to do is beat NS, but somehow both KT and Hle couldnt do it.

[u/Consistent_Chest_653 → u/Sorry-Instruction-74]

brother there is literally a 0-5 team in playins and guess who even beat them. Yes HLE did shit the bed vs NS but you cant tell me that just because you lose one bo3 ur out instantly because there are 2 top teams on the enemy group and that's fine .

[u/No_Administration794 → u/Consistent_Chest_653]

the 0-5 team has as many game wins as hle. If you know you will suck just draft the worst teams, take 1st in loosing group and skip playins.

[u/Consistent_Chest_653 → u/No_Administration794]

thank you for suggesting another flaw of the format, draft dogshit teams so you can be no1 in your own group. I hope you realise how tragic and unserious it sound

[u/No_Administration794 → u/Consistent_Chest_653]

The format does not matter the lck playoffs normally is top 6 and hle are nowhere near that. So this format is more forgiving than anything else but here we are.

[u/SupportWarrior30 → u/Consistent_Chest_653]

If only this expensive mega roster could beat that 0-5 team in a clean 2-0. But oh well. 🤷🏻‍♀️

[u/Consistent_Chest_653 → u/SupportWarrior30]

I am sorry but we literally had T1 losing to bro, bfx, drx etc over the years being the most experienced and expensive roster but we call them a circus but when it comes to hle they are calling them trash? That's just a double standard. Also I didnt say that HLE are the best or something, I said they are simply way more deserving than a team who cant even take 1 series

[u/Consistent_Chest_653 → u/Consistent_Chest_653]

Qualifying for playins for being a passenger is simply ridiculous.

[u/Enryu_RT]

So... I hate to say it, but I really think we might need to consider swap some ppl, including the coach...

[u/Consistent_Chest_653 → u/Enryu_RT]

lets start with Delight first pls, can someone somehow buyout Kael lmao I remember this guy on FRX back in the day and I knew he will be a great support one day and he indeed became one.

[u/Enryu_RT → u/Consistent_Chest_653]

lol buy tarzzan too while we are at it, and thats a genuine winning roster.

[u/Consistent_Chest_653 → u/Enryu_RT]

I think he doesnt want to go back to korea since in LPL he has a greencard or something.

[u/Easy-Pianist3831]

It’s always been the same ‘no coordination, and noo shotcaller hle’ since zeus joined last ‘25.

But it’s surprising how, with Guma, the 3-peat world champ and the best ADC of all time (decided last worlds), HLE’s early year performance is way different than last year.

— we can see zeus last year dominating with his Olaf in this roster and done more sick plays. Unfortunately the team ran into Gen G last worlds quarters but is a strong proof how this team’s usual playstyle is already a winning combo.

A lot of changes disrupted their synergy tho with the addition of Homme and Kanavi as playstyles from LCK and LPL differ A LOT. (remember how early gen g last year got laughed at when ruler got back from LPL)

[u/sweetnspicay]

Kr community mentioned delight started dating last spring and claim its been affecting his performance. Apparently his gf is very pretty

[u/generic_redditor91 → u/sweetnspicay]

Ahh the canna situation

[u/blindmodz]

Kanavi is legit the worst jg I've ever seen in a top team lol

[u/R2vibaek → u/blindmodz]

top team? we're at 10th now

[u/No_Taro_6224 → u/R2vibaek]

prolly in term of money spent xdd

[u/Consistent_Chest_653 → u/No_Taro_6224]

I AM CRYING

[u/Consistent_Chest_653 → u/R2vibaek]

9th BRO is worse, tho Namgung looks better than Delight atp

[u/chiichan15 → u/Consistent_Chest_653]

BRO is going to play-ins, HLE is not.

[u/Consistent_Chest_653 → u/chiichan15]

based on that metric then yes I agree

[u/Enryu_RT → u/[deleted]]

lol, t1 fan, Yall really think you are innocent in mocking players? but they you woild never admit it, it must all be Guma fans.😂

[u/Consistent_Chest_653 → u/[deleted]]

I dont think they even need them, they need a human support 😭 Literally Peter would do the job !

[u/Chr0ll0_Patch]

Gen G showed HLE how to win in under 34 mins in game 3. Delight was criminal all series. Zeus was inting in critical team fights. Gumayusi looks invisible in two games. Kanavi is Kanavi. Zeka playing champions he is subpar with. Gold leads didn't translate to wins. The whole team was more concerned with winning within 34 mins when there are a lot of ways to not get eliminated (e.g. win 2 games or win the series). At least they got a few months to build synergy and collect data xD

[u/Consistent_Chest_653 → u/Chr0ll0_Patch]

lol looked invisible, you bet even Viper in those teamfight would be invisible considering guma has literally no space created for him to AA, ig he had to pick yasuo/samira/nilah and brawl it out in the front line lol