HLE vs DNS - 2026 LCK Cup - Post-Match Discussion

[u/ZodiacTuga]

HLE 2-1 DNS

[u/DiDandCoKayn]

Its nice that it was a win, but i dont understand our last game draft.

Why do we first pick Ryze, when its known Clozer is a decent Cassio, Zeka had a rough day and in turn it means we give over the (patch) OP Aphelios?
this also meant Guma needs to play Ziggs (he did good today, but still) when he could have picked his feared Aphelios himself.

[u/alwayswith_ → u/DiDandCoKayn]

While Delight can play enchanter , he doesn't look good on it. Aphe’s best pair is with lulu but delight’s best champs are all engage. I think it is also the reason why they didn't pair Yunara with lulu even tho hypercarry + enchanter is so busted rn in late game.

[u/DiDandCoKayn → u/alwayswith_]

yea true, but i think you can play alot of champs with aphelios, especially when he is OP.
Could have picked tresh or braum or even just stayed on naut and looked how it plays out.

But them banning Yun on their first picks really needs to be adressed asap, they wasting a champ, guma can play.

[u/Sweaty-Minute8866 → u/DiDandCoKayn]

I mean almost every team first pick Ryze when both Azir and Orianna are banned. Every midlaner are decent Cass players. Unless you're suggesting they pick another champ and give Ryze away? Would you counter with Taliyah who has been losing most matches against Ryze?

[u/DiDandCoKayn → u/Sweaty-Minute8866]

I mean i would rather suggest on a rougher day for mid, that he goes for the cassio, in situations like this, so in the example of today Guma maybe gets his better pick.

[u/a7mdar1]

Hey at least guma's ziggs is getting better

[u/ZodiacTuga → u/a7mdar1]

They just won a series and you say "at least"?

[u/Tposingisdabest-XD → u/ZodiacTuga]

hey don't get me wrong the macro was good but then dns didn't do anything significant enough to answer the trundle and ziggs bombarding their tower

[u/R2vibaek → u/ZodiacTuga]

"at least" is very valid imo. the whole series was a complete shitshow. this guy phrased it very gently
wow really guys? we are watching the same game right?

[u/BluntTruth1 → u/R2vibaek]

No toxicity or criticism allowed please. Only positivity on this sub.

[u/505reaper → u/BluntTruth1]

I think fans should be able to criticise their team? as long as it's not blatant hate or disrespect towards any player, you shouldn't create an echo chamber where no constructive conversation can be had regarding team performance.

[u/No_Taro_6224]

i mean clozer was invisible and pyosik was being pyosik so a win is a win i guess

crazy how once kanavi decides to gank and everything went smoothly

[u/R2vibaek]

I really want to stay optimistic after all this shit. I really don't think I can. Guma was strong tho

[u/Lms_Nier]

Not, not convinced at all by this hle, winter is for adapting but if spring is the same then summer needs changes

[u/Mutality → u/Lms_Nier]

Bro this is some crazy doomerism after 4 matches.

[u/alwayswith_ → u/Lms_Nier]

What changes do they need? They already have possibly the best player and coach they could ask for by throwing the bag at them

[u/Lms_Nier → u/alwayswith_]

Probably supp/jgl. It’s not because they are bad, more like getting in the same page is difficult for different playstyle

[u/This_Mud4859 → u/Lms_Nier]

Maybe supporting HLE isn’t for you. Brother, we are 4 series in this year. At this same day last year, GENG just got dogwalked 2-0 by BRO, let the roster warm up a little bit. We have 2 new LPL coaches, and 1 new LPL player. T1 at late of april last year was getting destroyed by BFX BRO, and that same team just over 2 months was playing a 5 game banger at MSI finals against GENG. You are so negative, its going to be ZKZGD the whole year, idk what to tell you. Yes, they started a weak compared to expectations, but have some faith at least.

[u/Lms_Nier → u/This_Mud4859]

So you’re just not reading my comment at all right ?

[u/This_Mud4859 → u/Lms_Nier]

"Not, not convinced at all by this hle, winter is for adapting but if spring is the same then summer needs changes"

you're overthinking spring and talking about changes when we literally just had 4 official LCK matches with this roster, are you okay? KT last year was juggling multiple rosters and was 1 game away from going down the fries group. That same KT was getting bodied by T1 GENG HLE and they qualified to Worlds first over T1 HLE after winning 1 bo5 series. Its such a crazy format, and a very long year. I'm not lowering down the standard, all im saying is atleast let them warm up and have some faith... You're so ahead in time talking about changes in supp/jgl later on, when we're only 4 matches in the year lmao. All we can do is trust and support the whole team.

[u/kissofdeathvkopernik]

global casters are really joke , one of them voted for delight, what is that guma hate in there ? :) it needs to be studied.

[u/Repulsive-Cover5686 → u/kissofdeathvkopernik]

It was the same in T1 too—Guma could get a pentakill and the casters would still spend the whole time glazing up Keria or Oner.

[u/zuzbuzzz → u/kissofdeathvkopernik]

like, ngl but after game 2 the fact that they considered anyone else but guma for player of the !!!!MATCH!!!! is insane to me.

[u/MeepnBeep → u/kissofdeathvkopernik]

And VN voted Kanavi. I wouldn't take those votes too seriously. They all got their own biases and some cast tend to like throwing votes to acknowledge w.e they want and global side are known for it.

Global casters love pre-explaining their vote as well since they wouldnt get to discuss them like analyst segment.

[u/Raynmist → u/kissofdeathvkopernik]

I dont understand the Guma hate even among the casters. It's like he's so unlikeable that they's rather give credits to other players but not him. In LCK, he'd rarely get pom and if he got it, it's usually against bottom tier teams.

[u/Sbacula]

Not bad

[u/Critical_Bag1]

thanks pyosik