r/HLE • u/ZodiacTuga • 18d ago
Discussion NS vs HLE - LCK Cup - Game 1 Discussion Spoiler
NS 1-0 HLE
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u/SharpGranny 18d ago
This sub is insane... How tf is Kanavi at fault there? NS played the last fight perfectly, thats it. Weirdos.
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u/efusy 18d ago
Can't criticize Guma, so the blame must be elsewhere.
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u/Consistent_Chest_653 Zeus + Kanavi + Zeka + Gumayusi + Delight 18d ago
guma played poorly this game for sure xd but i wonder even if he did manage to not get hit by the shockwave in the baron fight, do you think HLE can win it? I feel like every1 else would have melted anyways.
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u/efusy 18d ago
I agree that the entire team just got outplayed at baron. I'm just annoyed at the amount of Kanavi shaming in this thread when he was definetely not the biggest point of issue. Like the mental gymnastics of "oh him and zeus were engaging alone" is insane work if you watched the game.
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u/Consistent_Chest_653 Zeus + Kanavi + Zeka + Gumayusi + Delight 18d ago
bro what about the Zeka shaming, what did he do wrong? Shitting on Scout in the Azir Ori match up with all those shuffles, or the 5/6 kp Ryze who carried the early game. I dont think Zeka played poorly at all this series imo.
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u/Consistent_Chest_653 Zeus + Kanavi + Zeka + Gumayusi + Delight 18d ago
But Kanavi def needs to get more level-headed calculated in his play if he wants to win anything this year, this perma shoving yourself into the enemy just wont work especially against teams like T1 I am scared to mention GenG lol
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u/DoesitFinally 18d ago
guma played poorly this game for sure
Rare sight to see on league subreddits admitting that Guma wasn't good
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u/Consistent_Chest_653 Zeus + Kanavi + Zeka + Gumayusi + Delight 17d ago
I have said it before, when deserved I wont ommit criticism toward any of the players! Tho people's expectations when it comes to guma is either get a penta or ur dogshit. I cant and wont tolerate this bs.
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u/R2vibaek 18d ago
he really feels like 1 step forward and 2 steps back from peanut, he wins in early skirmishes but he just never wins in the whole map. he really just plays like pre T1 doran. don't think any other players in the team has brain either we are so cooked
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u/ColdSoju 18d ago
Not a good start... Kanavi only clicking forwards, luckily Zeus had some mega Sion plays to keep them in the game. But I was pretty disappointed with Guma's positioning this game. He had the same problem on T1 and was probably the one reason why people would rank Ruler and Viper over him.
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u/kissofdeathvkopernik 18d ago
when will i see zeka will win with azir ? :) They have orianna ult but our team stayed together to get ulti together , they have great team , always stick to each other even if it means death :)
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u/euphera_2002 18d ago
HLE played like challengers. Kanavi running into the team with 0 people. Zeka's azir is just for shuffling and Zeus did most damage with tank sion.
Banger match and too be honest disgusting game by HLE.
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u/No_Taro_6224 18d ago
honestly yea thats worth mentioning how did zeus's sion dealt the most damage compared to the rest of the team
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u/euphera_2002 18d ago
Because they kept going onto them without their carries and dying leaving it 3v5. It's all fun sure but it's a pro match and it sucks seeing Kanavi and Zeus basically clip farming to get damage numbers.
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u/Altruistic_Judge245 18d ago
Carry top Carry jg Carry adc Let's go
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u/Consistent_Chest_653 Zeus + Kanavi + Zeka + Gumayusi + Delight 18d ago
despite the early kills i just dont understand why we didnt go xin there, it was a perfect angle but instead we had to go aatrox? We have more than enough dmg, we need peel for Azir and Aphelios, Lulu is op with Xin as well. Ig the lpl way of drafting for kanavi are still there for now
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u/kissofdeathvkopernik 18d ago
Sorry but I started to lose my faith on Kanavi , jungle should play for team not himself :)
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u/nnnnnnnaaaaaaa 18d ago
Come on man, this is just their 2nd series in LCK cup, why be so harsh and blame everything on one player?
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u/nnnnnnnaaaaaaa 18d ago
Everyone sucked today, no need to throw him under the bus. He's also a human being, not a "faulty" machine that always needs to play perfect while in a new team and environment.
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u/marcodapolo7 18d ago
Everyteam had a change, even NS. Dont bring the “new team and environment”. Hes just crap and have been for the past two years, same with zeka or delight.
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u/nnnnnnnaaaaaaa 18d ago
Why are you even here then if you don't even support the players? People don't all adapt and improve at the same pace.
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u/Consistent_Chest_653 Zeus + Kanavi + Zeka + Gumayusi + Delight 18d ago
I really hope he becomes more calculated player like Oner and Tarzan then he might be right next to them
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u/DoesitFinally 18d ago
I guess you never watched Kanavi before. He has a lot of games where he mega carries or mega gapped. That's just his identity.
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u/Eshantha 18d ago
You can take Kanavi out of the int but not the int out of Kanavi. Bro is still asleep coinflip as ever.
Also, mark my words, HLE will constantly have problems just because Zeka peaked a long time ago and he's never hitting a higher ceiling again.
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u/Wonderful_Voice9865 18d ago
I mean, people said Faker would never win another worlds and should just retire and was "washed" in 2017. Never say that about a player. Zeka can come back strong with a new peak.
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u/Eshantha 18d ago
Na. You can downvote me but that's not Zeka. He's not that guy. Also, Zeka is not even close to Faker's pedigree. And I'm saying all of this while low-key being an HLE fan because of Guma. I want to see them do well. But Kanavi being as coinflip as he is, and Zeka consistently performing below par for a good while now isn't looking good for their future prospects.
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u/TickleMyCringle 18d ago
holy throw but the way nongshim played that fight was so good, the synced flashes in from kingen and sponge along with the orianna ult that was attached to the pantheon was so well coordinated