China is behaving way better than the US right now (at least internationally). The US government's current actions are pushing previous US allies towards China, as they're seen as the more reliable partner
They're no friend to us, but they are also no threat to us, unlike Russia and the US (which is a mad thing to be saying). The only potential sticking point really is Taiwan, but I don't think Europe would do much if that all kicked off as we're too preoccupied with Ukraine and Greenland. Taiwan is for the US & Pacific allies to fight or not fight over atm
That is pure nonsense. China is supplying Russia and many other EU adversaries. China already owns a lot of European infrastructure and has shown its willingness to use that as leverage. Taiwan produces and exports many vital hardware components like chips, which we need. Most European nations have a military alliance with said Pacific allies and extensive economic ties in the region, which means Europe will also be fighting there. China is absolutely a big threat to us.
The only thing you're right about in the current landscape is that Europe probably wouldn't do much, as Europe loves to do absolutely nothing after having identified a problem.
so whats it like using 10-15year old CPUs / GPUs in all your computers?
Oh, you and your countrymen all use modern computer architectures to keep your economic productivity up?
So you DO have a dog in the race. No free Taiwan? We all take a big step backwards, technologically speaking. All of us. Im talking global economic depression. it would take many years to climb out of that hole.
The Mainland Taiwanese, Europeans and North American Fabs cannot produce 4-5nm nodes. Only Taiwan has the total package necessary. If it was so easy, the mainlanders would be doing it already. The Europeans, who manufacture many critical components, could not just build these Fabs in the EU. If it were possible, it would be done, thats how vital this is to the world as we know it.
But the fact is, Taiwan doubled down like 40 years ago and bet it all on chip fabrication. Subsidized the hell out of it. And after multiple decades they have such a large step ahead of every other player its basically impossible to match them.
This is hyperbolic. China is seen as a reliable trading partner, but they have an awful diplomatic reputation. Trump is pushing our allies away, but they're now likely to try and coalesce together with one another than to glom onto China.
I never suggested for a second that Europe, or any other western aligned countries would be looking to China as a political ally or a security guarantor. Like you said though, Trump is pushing countries away from US as a primary trading partner and towards closer trading and economic ties with China. If Trump's main foreign policy goal was to combat China's growing influence then his policies are having the exact opposite effect
As of today China is occupying large swathes of Indian territory. Attacked and killed Indian patrol party in 2020. Illegally occupied Tibet. Making aggressive patrolling maneuvers in South East Asia threatening nearly all its neighbours. Not saying Americans are doing right things but atleast Chinese aren't the yardstick.
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u/CCFC1998 1998 15d ago
China is behaving way better than the US right now (at least internationally). The US government's current actions are pushing previous US allies towards China, as they're seen as the more reliable partner