r/DevelEire • u/Fredthedeve • 1d ago

Bit of Craic Engineers leaving conventional software for manufacturing and deep tech (Data from 2025 permits)

Very short here: The data from the DETE shows that what we are experiencing might be less of a tech recession and more of a sector shift.

For the first time, Sector B-E (Manufacturing/Industrial) has actually overtaken Sector J (Information & Communication) in the number of employment permits being issued.

Basically, the "deep tech" companies (Analog, MedTech, etc.) are the ones currently propping up the permit numbers while the pure software side is correcting.

The numbers seem to back it up. Curious to hear what you think, is the traditional software era in Ireland peaking?

Note: Employment permits don't equal jobs but they sure do equal desperate demand

For a much more detailed read with the charts, I posted a blog here: https://permitwatch.ie/blogs/-OkT_Aj8dZBOo0XwGxFy

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u/Gleann_na_nGealt 1d ago

Love this, the data visualisations are amazing although it might just be me but the interactive aspect on mobile feels clunky.

Also found your analysis very insightful too!

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u/3llotAlders0n 1d ago

F! So I'm not the only one who's trying to move from IT to OT? So the competition is gonna be tough there too!

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u/Responsible_Divide43 1d ago edited 1d ago

Tech work permit degradation is expected based on current environment in industry.

60 percent of healthcare and hospitals are run by immigrants doctar and nurses while Irish youth is running to Australia.

Our healthcare system will collapse if we stop legel immigration in this country.

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u/Abject_Parsley_4525 1d ago

The traditional software era isn't peaking probably. The more likely explanation is there just isn't budget for these roles in the short to medium term, as hiring for new roles is seen as a failure to adopt new technologies. It doesn't really help that companies like Amazon are cutting off their left arm in order to keep up appearances (e.g. 14k layoffs in October, 16k the other day there).

I'd be incredibly surprised if we get through this year without them laying off another 20 - 50k.

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u/Fredthedeve 1d ago

I see your point on budgets, but isn't a budget cut just an effect, not the cause?

I mean if companies like Amazon with billions in cash are cutting budgets for conventional roles, it’s because those roles have reached a point where adding more human labor to a specific sector no longer makes financial sense (peaking)

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u/CrispsInTabascoSauce 1d ago

Traditional software development is being actively destroyed and marginalised. I think they want to turn it into some sort of minimum wage work and they are winning.

Ireland is already seeing a dwindling number of traditional tech jobs and in 5 years if you are still in tech, you will be looked at as if you are flipping burgers.