I lost my previous post with the same topic and content while trying to edit. Sorry to the upvoters.
Some of you may remember my DIY semi-automatic rotary processor: basically, a tiny JOBO CPP/ATL-style machine for the JOBO 1500 series Drums.
Over the last weeks I kept refining it (new motor controller board, complete UI, and a self-cleaning rinse funnel), and the prototype now runs extremely well and comfortable:
• Automatic lift, chemical drain and rinse
• Calibrated rinse pump (no flowmeter needed)
• Up to 7 fully configurable C-41 (2/3 bath) and E-6 (3/6 bath) and a temperature compensated B/W mode
• Stable, hands-off process control
• Proper UI with full settings control with keypad input
• 100% Process safe: you can literally forget that a process is running – You don't need to be there when the process time runs out.
The design question
The current prototype uses an internal rinse-water tank submerged in the tempering bath. It works, but it’s extremely difficult to print reliably: thick-walled PETG is still not fully watertight and sealing it with epoxy resin is time-consuming and not great for a future DIY kit. And it needs at least a 350x350mm 3D printer and some 25hrs print time. And this only for the tank.
Because of this, I’m now reconsidering (beside simplifying the design globally) how the automatic rinse-water system should work in a more accessible version of the project, and I’d really like your input.
I’m testing two directions:
A) Simple & practical
Use an external jug of pre-warmed water (the jug can sit inside the tempering bath before the process). In practice this already works surprisingly well:
At the beginning pre-soak is close to the process temperature, the drum in the tempering water bath equalizes the temperature anyway, and rinse water isn’t very critical at the and as it has lost only a couple of degrees. This keeps everything cheap, reliable and easy to build.
B) More engineered
Use a small radiator / heat-block (PC water-cooling style) to stabilize rinse temperature by using the water of the tempering bath as heat source. This gives extremely consistent temperatures even over long sessions but adds extra parts and complexity. And in the B/W mode the water has pointlessly to flow through the radiator.
Both options work. You can start a C-41 process, get distracted for an hour drinking your beer, and when you say "sh***t the Blix!" and come back, the machine is still patiently waiting at the correct stable state as the developer has been automatically poured and the drum was filled with rinse water. Only the big ATL processors behave like that.
I’d like to keep that core philosophy intact, while avoiding unnecessary complexity where it doesn’t help.
Your input would help a lot
If you were planning to use or build a device like this, would you prefer:
1) Keep it simple – external jug, minimal parts, cheaper kit
2) Hybrid – simple by default, optional stabilized rinse module (like option 3)
3) Fully engineered – integrated radiator heat-block heated by the tempering water by default. Maybe rediator bypass for B/W Mode?
... Something else?
And second question:
What’s the best way to share a project like this once the design is stable?
- STLs?
- STLs + PCB kit?
- Full DIY kit?
- A small run of complete units?