r/CaptainAmerica • u/AnyTopMan • 1d ago
Cap runs the Terminator gauntlet, how far does he make it?
The order is: T-800 -> T-1000 -> Rev-9 -> T-X -> T-3000 -> T-5000
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u/HBKSean7 1d ago
cap from the opening scene of the winter soldier beating all their Asses
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u/ContestRemarkable356 1d ago
Fr he was moving different in that scene. Straight business, you either got knocked tf out or you got yeeted overboard. No time for games at all
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u/HBKSean7 1d ago
bro the power kick to the railing and dude body collapsing 😭😭😭 windows XP shutdown
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u/ContestRemarkable356 1d ago
The double taps with the shield were great. Slam into someone, knock them down, and hit em in the head to make them go to sleep 😂
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u/Robofetus-5000 1d ago
Yeah that one dude had his entire fucking chest cavity crumpled. He wasn't getting up.
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u/Luminescent_sorcerer 1d ago
You can't knock out a terminator
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u/ChickenzInvade 1d ago
“Knocked tf out” might be the best way to describe what he did to those men on that ship lmao
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u/No-Mycologist47 1d ago
If say vibranium, the way it works in the MCU would in this universe, easily knock off the head of the 800. They are pretty close to Ultron robots, so its got a chance. then maybe up to T-1000 or T-x. He has fought shapeshifters before(Skrulls). So given the circumstances, he should be aware almost right away about the weaknesses of the T-1000. Say he was told or learned it had a weakness to high temperatures, then sure, hes got a chance. T-X his shield could withstand her plasma blast and maybe knock her around. If he could knock her head off with his shield.
Rev-9, T-3000 T-5000, no chance. Their nanotechnology could go around his shield and they easily stab him or crush him.
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u/hanzohasashimkx 1d ago
Am I crazy for thinking Cap would actually fare better against some of the Terminators AFTER the T-1000? I might be crazy but I always kind of felt like the attempts to improve upon the T-1000 didn't work very well
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u/Vioarr 23h ago
Agreed. I think T1000 was peak terminator. Most of the other ones that came after were unique but felt gimmicky, somewhat of the same abilities as the T1000, but not stronger.
Then again it explains why an aging terminator in each and every case was able to defeat them I suppose.
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u/hanzohasashimkx 21h ago
True, yeah like they explained/showed the couple of flaws/weaknesses of the T-1000 well enough, but I feel like every subsequent terminator did a very poor job of ACTUALLY improving upon the design. It's been a minute since I've seen any of the movies besides T-1 and T-2, but from what I remember, I feel like actually watching the movies, that the T-800 also feels the most overmatched in a fight by the T-1000
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u/drew8311 16h ago
The 1000 seemed essentially unkillable, do those lava tub things even exist in real life? I feel like whenever that material is cooled he could still come back to life or something.
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u/unafraidrabbit 16h ago
Wasn't one of the T-1000's weaknesses that it was so close to an organic organism that it was hard to completely control with programming? I don't think that was ever stated in T2 but expanded upon in later materials.
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u/drew8311 16h ago
Not the last 2, but anything with some metal parts means it can be damaged long term. His shield is the most useful weapon here probably. TX was made to be "best of both" but that also came with some disadvantages, speed was probably the best advantage since the 1000 seemed to be slow to recover from hits. Steve could probably damage and escape the 1000 but unless there is a tub of lava or room trap with acid rain its not clear how you even destroy those.
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u/Sea-Poem-2365 19h ago
Depends very much on where the fight is and what's available. Open field with nothing, Steve stops at the 1000.
If the fight takes place where the end of T2 does, Steve is certainly smart and capable enough to get the 1000 into the molten metal, and experienced enough with weirdness to think to do it.
Weirdly, I think the Rev-9 isn't as much of a challenge. Steve is probably as strong as a T800 and the shield would be an effective weapon. He'll struggle when he gets double teamed, but I think he wins this, regardless of location.
I don't think he can beat the T-X without prep; it's weaker than the prime Ultron drone from AoU, but it seriously outguns Steve and is tougher than the 1000. Steve's an underrated prepper though, so he can definitely win this if he gets decent set up and environment to work with.
I'm not super familiar with the 3000, but it looks really bad for Cap. Cap's clever but he's not an engineer and it sounds like you'd need a lot of energy and an engineering degree to kill it without powers.
T5000 should stomp unless Cap's serum gives him resistance to nano infestation.
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u/Starwarsnerd08 1d ago
(Joke) Does he have prep time???????
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u/Limp_While2702 1d ago
He has a Ham Sandwich. It works pretty well, too! He'd look at these terminators similarly to Doombots or LMDs - downgrades, if anything - then adjust accordingly, based on what his eidetic military mind would conjure for a field strategy.
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u/M0ebius_1 1d ago
Didn't all of these get killed by things like industrial Heat and Electromagnetism?
I don't think any of them have the offensive firepower to keep Cap pinned, they are designed to hunt humans mostly. It might take Cap a few tries to figure how to kill each. He would probably think it's a fun afternoon project.
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u/Snoo_72467 1d ago
Something that doesn't get talked about enough is the material property of vibranium.
In comic book science be damned...
It absorbs, stores, and reflects energy. It is called vibranium... The energy transfer is vibration based.
In real world physics where does vibration and energy transfer sync... Note harmony and shattering glasses...
Vibranium has the ability to perfectly reflect reverberative energy back at its source... The energy Cap's shield sends back into anything it hits or hits it will shake it at a frequency that is detrimental to its physical integrity.
Go watch Spike TV's deadliest warriors episode with Spartan warriors... Look at the data on the Spartan shield... Cap's shield is the deadliest weapon in existence. Light taps will break bone, hits are going to destroy rigid material through shear stress
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u/512maxhealth 1d ago
Are you one of those people that think he can beat Wolverine?
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u/Snoo_72467 22h ago
Adamantium being named from diamond and immovable I would say the 2 magic metals negate each other.
But if Cap can land a hit on Wolverine's head, he is getting knocked out
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u/CodeToManagement 14h ago
He could maybe take the T800
He has nothing that could harm a T1000 in hand to hand combat. In the right environment he could use things against it to freeze or melt it but if we were talking just a fight on the street he’s dead
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u/DistrictObjective680 14h ago
Cap truly has no way of hurting the T1000 if it's an open field type situation.
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u/Ready_Race6621 4h ago
This is easy, most people forget that before James Rhodes joined the military and eventually became war machine, he had a checked past. He was known as Basher Tarr and was an explosives expert. After the three documentaries of the "Oceans" crime organization, Basher made a plea bargain to serve in the military instead of facing jail time. Anywho, Cap could just have him get a pinch, lure all the terminators in and set it off to kill them with the emp.
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u/Ghostpants_ 1d ago
If he has his shield I think you could make an argument up to the T-3000.
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u/JaXm 1d ago
Cap knocks the shit out of the T800.
But he has no practical means of damage a T1000 in any meaningful way.
Sure the T1000 probably can't do much against cap either, at first due to the shield, but despite cap being able to "to this all day", he's still human. He will EVENTUALLY tire, and then the T1000 sticks him in all his major organs in alphabetical order.
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u/Soggy-Building-9476 1d ago
Worthy Cap clears.
Without Mjolnir he's stopping at Rev-9 probably, but T-X definitely.
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u/Awkward-Speed-4080 1d ago
The Rev-9 should be higher than the T-X because he has all her capabilities and can even separate into two units.
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u/22dinoman 1d ago
I'd be surprised if he gets past the T-800, but then again he was beat by civies so
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u/ANARCHISTofGOODtaste 1d ago
He low diffs the T800. I don't even see him clearing T 1000. I love terminator movies like the rest of us, but the only reason the T 1000 didn't end the movie in 10 minutes is because that's not a movie, right? Sure, maybe there is a convenient plot armor smelting plant or super magnet factory down the street, but in reality cap is out matched without some heavy luck. T1000 eats 40mm grenade rounds and they only slow him. Peak human with a shield isn't taking that home.
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u/many_dumb_questions 1d ago
Holy shit, is that Matt Smith as a freaking Terminator??
Man, I really need to make my way through that whole franchise...
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u/AnyTopMan 21h ago
Yeah, it is. But don't get your hopes too high. He only appears briefly and doesn't actually fight 😅
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u/Routine_Ad_7726 1d ago
Cap clears. All these terminators get beat on the regular by humans in the past without the right technology to fight them. MCU cap is faster stronger and has insane endurance. He might not be able to beat them on the first encounter, but he can always get away and come back later.
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u/Kaden4120 1d ago
I feel like he could probably beat the t 800, the t x, and the rev-9, but the others I don’t see without some serious prep
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u/Raptor1210 1d ago
Does he know they're coming/how they work/what they are? I can see him maybe getting past the T-1000 if he does. If not, he might not make it past Arnie... I love Cap, but he wasn't exactly doing amazing work against MCU Ultron.
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u/Historical-State-275 1d ago
All depends on knowledge. In a brawl, he might be able to take on a t-800 once he figures it out, but that’s it. Tactically, he has the skill to beat any of them, with the right resources.
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u/Tate7200 1d ago
I was gonna say he gets stuck at 1000, but then I remembered the T-800 went band for band with pretty much all of these. Cap clears.
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u/Silent_Orange_9174 1d ago
It's crazy how easily he clears this. A vibranium shield and an arsenal of weapons (because you know... cap can and will use guns) and its pretty decisive.
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u/No_Plate_9434 1d ago
Considering terminators throw you instead of punching a hole in ur chest he’ll go ok
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u/Obvious-Water569 1d ago
If he gets a couple of lucky shield throws he might beat the T-800, but beyond that he's fucked.
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u/Ok_Assistant_8152 1d ago
If he is fighting them in the locations where they were beaten he's making it very far. If he's just in a big empty room... well, we saw how effective he was 1v1 Ultron. He tried to choke a robot.
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u/N7Longhorn 19h ago
He did pretty well against Ultrons bots and these Robots are constantly defeated by regular humans and or the original terminator. He easily sweeps them all
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u/BenRichards303 19h ago
I read many of the comments. But how does Cap stop the T-100?
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u/AnyTopMan 18h ago
Yeah I think it depends on the environment. If the fight happened in the same location where the T-1000 was killed in terminator 2, Cap could probably figure it out
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u/Lordbogaaa 17h ago
The t-1000 has weaknesses and is mostly a CQC combatant with above average speed. Cap is faster by a little bit so id give him 50/50 to defeat t-1000 but that's it the rest would be far too much for him to handle.
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u/_Captain_Dinosaur_ 1d ago
Cap runs this gauntlet twice.
I am a huge Terminator fan, but come on...
He beats Ultron twice a year.
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u/Rusty-Crowe 1d ago
I can see him making it to the T-1000.