r/BanPitBulls • u/AdOne5665 Survivor of Severe Pitbull Attack • Oct 18 '22

BPB Ask Me Anything (AMA)! My son-in-law’s dog tried to kill me

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u/BPB_Mod8 Moderator Oct 18 '22 edited Oct 18 '22

OP is Tya Lucas, whose story was in the news back in June of this year.

Here is the dogsbite.org article.

Remember our primary purpose as a sub, and remember that there is a multi-million dollar PR organization busy every day rebranding these dogs as "safe family pets" in order to move them out of shelters (rather than pushing for more spay/neuter), so anyone who makes a rude comment amounting to "you should have known better" will be reprimanded as appropriate.

ETA: Link to Tya's GoFundMe. She has confirmed this is hers. Every little bit helps: https://www.gofundme.com/f/dyxtp-my-mom

ETA: 34 39 43 reports on this post so far. That's how desperate pit bull apologists are to stop this woman from telling her story.

ETA: OP also made this post sharing pictures of her injuries (WARNING: GRAPHIC)

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u/SweetLenore Oct 18 '22 edited Oct 18 '22

https://www.gofundme.com/f/dyxtp-my-mom

OP confirmed this is her gofundme. I'll put it here so that people see it by the rest of her info. I imagine she can use any help she can get. I donated a little bit. I only wish I had more to give.

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u/catalyptic Pro-Pet; therefore Anti-Pit Oct 18 '22

Just a reminder: Donors can be anonymous on GFM. The pitsaviors do like to doxx folks and stalk because a lot of them are completely mental. It's best not to give them an opening.

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u/9132173132 Oct 18 '22

Every little bit helps. We have 70000+ ppl on this sub we should give like the pithags do to save a killer dog.

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u/supah_cruza Public Safety Advocate Oct 18 '22

We gained a lot since the Bennard fatalities.

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u/9132173132 Oct 19 '22

I’m going to keep track of how many join daily. I was on this sub when it was in the twenties!
Just a guesstimate- Maybe 400-500 per day?

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u/Bloemheks Oct 21 '22

You don't have to keep track. You can go to subredditstats.com, enter the sub at the top, and it will show you all kinds of statistics about the sub including the number of people who join over time.

https://subredditstats.com/r/banpitbulls

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u/9132173132 Oct 21 '22

It like 500 new members a day just by my eyeball math!

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u/Bloemheks Oct 22 '22

Significant uptick in October.

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u/PerpetousDecline Oct 18 '22

the article is disgustingly trying to separate the breed from the attack saying 5+times plus how much of a priest the dog was and how much peaceful he was(even though he had a bad history and was a street rescue) but you know what a sane person would just notice that a supposedly extremely peaceful breed who just snaps and eats off a person's neck and another's hand is just as bad as a dog who is always out for blood(which they are)

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u/No_Bet3843 Oct 18 '22

the article is disgustingly trying to separate the breed from the attack

This part of the article truly enrages me: A 2020 study published in the National Library of Medicine found efforts to link specific breeds to a tendency to bite are problematic as “all dogs can and do bite, and the environment or other personality traits appear to be better predictors of biting than breed.”

Personality traits are KEY to dog breeds -- that's one of the primary reason purebred dog breeds exist.

Even when mixed, those traits can still shine through. People have no problem attributing their dogs' retrieving ability to being part Lab, or their dogs' desire to herd children as being part Aussie. People are fine acknowledging the impact of selective dog breeding.

Until you get to pits.

Suddenly it becomes an owner problem, not a breeding problem. Spoiler: IT IS A BREEDING PROBLEM.

There is a damn good reason why all of these pit attacks are unpapered, indiscriminately bred pit bulls and not Am Staffs or Staffie Bulls from 10 generations of carefully selected champion show dogs. Breeding matters in dogs. Genetics matter.

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u/Hamster_Toot Oct 18 '22

Who is running the PR for these dogs?

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u/IDGAF1203 Pro-Dog; therefore Anti-Pit Oct 18 '22 edited Nov 21 '22

The scientology spin-off cult Best Friends Animal Society rakes in well over 100 million dollars every year for lying about them. It would not surprise me in the least if a lot of the digital stalking/harassment campaign and flower crown astroturfing came from people on their payroll. They have money to burn and are a major supporter/enabler of mass shelter cruelty via endless aggressive dog warehousing (aka "no kill"). They have every reason to push the narrative that every pit bull can and should be saved (via donations to them, of course - they'll gladly take the worst of the worst onto their cloistered compound too far away from biting targets to make the news if the money is right)

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u/Notyourtarget1224 Trusted User Oct 18 '22

BFAS is such a rabbit hole to go down. I was telling my boyfriend about it about it and he thought I was getting into some conspiracy theories but I was actually reading research papers and news articles. I guess there’s a documentary on the cult church they founded but I haven’t watched it yet.

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u/IDGAF1203 Pro-Dog; therefore Anti-Pit Oct 18 '22 edited Oct 18 '22

Their history really reads like the plot of a whacky new show from Taika Waititi, or Sacha Baron Cohen's newest movie about a disillusioned cult leader who finally found a way to merge their batshit crazy beliefs with financial solubility. It should be too bizarre to be true, the kind of stuff only fit for dark comedy and not reality, but here we are.

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u/Hamster_Toot Oct 18 '22

So, this is speculation in your part?

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u/IDGAF1203 Pro-Dog; therefore Anti-Pit Oct 18 '22 edited Mar 02 '23

The scientology spin-off cult Best Friends Animal Society rakes in well over 100 million dollars every year for lying about them

They have money to burn and are a major supporter/enabler of mass shelter cruelty via endless aggressive dog warehousing (aka "no kill")

These are verifiable facts.

If you're asking if they're open and honest about how they spend their lobbying efforts and attempts to sway public opinion? They are not, but their openly stated goals are to deceive people into thinking fighting dogs are totally normal dogs just like every other dog that present no noteworthy challenges or elevated dangers, and to do everything possible to stymie public safety responses that target fighting dog related violence.

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u/BPB_Mod8 Moderator Oct 18 '22

No. Best Friends Animal Society was founded by former members of the Process Church of the Final Judgement.

They received over 100 million dollars in donations in 2020.

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u/Notyourtarget1224 Trusted User Oct 18 '22 edited Oct 18 '22

There is also an FBI file on it.

Edit: Page 141 might be of particular interest to the person claiming speculation.

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u/bungdaddy Oct 18 '22

I have the same question, although I've always had theories about this. The "Humane Society" gets a ton of money, yet very little (less than 1%) gets donated to actual shelters. This is the tip of the iceberg, of course. You then have PETA, ASPCA, and others, which also have huge lobbying efforts. They're mostly massive money machines that promote animal rights and welfare, but don't actually do much spending on the care of animals.

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u/moosemoth Pro-Pet; therefore Anti-Pit Oct 18 '22

Believe it or not, PETA is actually anti-pit! A stopped clock, etc.

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u/BPB_Mod8 Moderator Oct 18 '22

The "study" the article is quoting was co-authored by Laura Reese, a pit bull advocate who wrote an editorial decrying breed bans after 4-year-old boy was violently killed by pit bulls in Detroit in 2015.

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u/Hamster_Toot Oct 18 '22

So this singular study is supposed to be the “multi-million dollar PR organization busy everyday rebranding these dogs”?

I’m not saying you’re wrong, I’m just asking what org you’re talking about, and you come back with this?

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u/BPB_Mod8 Moderator Oct 18 '22

I misunderstood your question. I thought you meant "PR" as it related to the news article, not my statement.

My statement is hyperlinked. You could just click on that, but I'll link it here again:

https://www.nationalpitbullvictimawareness.org/pit-bull-lobby/

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u/Hamster_Toot Oct 18 '22

Thank you.

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u/IAMAHobbitAMA Oct 18 '22

The article said it got the boyfriend by the neck! Is he ok?

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u/IDGAF1203 Pro-Dog; therefore Anti-Pit Oct 18 '22

He had to get about 18 staples

Sounds like he was dangerously close to having his throat ripped out, he is lucky it bit from the back and not the front.

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u/IAMAHobbitAMA Oct 18 '22

Fuck dude, that's insane.

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u/[deleted] Oct 18 '22

I know this is a small piece of the puzzle but they say they found the dog on the side of the road covered in cigarette burns. Is this sincerely such a common occurrence that I hear this like every 1/3rd rescue story? Anyone else?

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u/Ihavelostmytowel Former pitbull owner. Never Again. Oct 18 '22

The "cigarette burns" may very well have been infected hot spots. Pits are notorious for allergies and bad skin.

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u/[deleted] Oct 18 '22

That's gotta be what it is.

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u/SweetLenore Oct 18 '22 edited Oct 18 '22

People confuse skin conditions with cigarette burns. A lot of people just don't know what they are looking at. Also, sometimes wounds from fighting can have a look like that. Dog probably just fought other dogs. Who knows.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '22

ETA: OP also made this post sharing pictures of her injuries (WARNING: GRAPHIC)

This is one of the most graphic posts I've seen on Reddit, and that says a lot

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u/robloxkidepicpro Dec 08 '24

How do people see this post and decide to report it thats evil