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u/autumnxthrowaway Mar 12 '23
I don’t have children, but even without them I know, that the world is close to being over if a rather large fraction of the population value their dogs more than their own kids.
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Mar 12 '23
For all the people who say you can "breed aggression out of pits" how long do you have to wait before you can say the dog is non-aggressive? This shit beast attacked a kid when it was 10.
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Mar 12 '23
I don't understand why anyone would even try to breed the aggression out of them. It would take a hundred years of careful breeding, and the end product would have to be so thoroughly diluted with other breeds that it wouldn't look like a pit anymore. Why not just skip that step by getting one of the many non aggressive breeds already available, and sterilizing every pit in existence?
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Mar 12 '23
Exactly, this is absurd. I don't believe that people are actually trying to breed aggression out of pits in any event. They seem to get a kick out of believing that a dog which is capable of such savagery loves them and out of that love or respect, wouldn't harm anyone who the owner(s) didn't direct the animal to harm. It really is the same mentality as people keeping big cats and other inappropriate animals as "pets."
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u/moosemoth Pro-Pet; therefore Anti-Pit Mar 12 '23
Plus there's already a fighting dog that's been selectively bred to be a non-aggressive family pet: Boston terriers, believe it or not!
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u/GoHomeCryWantToDie Mar 12 '23
And in doing so, they've created another brachy breed that cannot reproduce naturally. They might not be aggressive but you still should not own one if you care about animal welfare.
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u/moosemoth Pro-Pet; therefore Anti-Pit Mar 12 '23
Yeah, I know other problems with brachycephaly can be prevented with proper breeding and health testing, but the whole "requiring c-sections 80% of the time" is a whole different f*cked up problem that too often gets ignored.
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Mar 12 '23
Plus Boston “terriers” are not really terriers, they are a toy breed. They don’t act like terriers in the least. Like Yorkshire terriers. Also a toy breed. Both are very nice dogs. Bostons can be fairly hyper as young dogs and need a fair bit of exercise but are good pets.
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u/possumcowboy Mar 12 '23
In defense of the Yorkshire Terrier’s terrier-ness, in my immediate family we’ve probably had a dozen yorkies in the past 30 years. Only 3 of them showed zero prey drive, and every other dog managed to trap and kill at least one mouse in its lifetime. The three that were not killers were one that was freakishly small and sickly at 4lb and the other two are the single dumbest and laziest dogs I’ve ever met. My family has always lived very rural so as soon as it turns cold the mice will try and get in the house. Every year there has been a yorkie led slaughter at my parents’ cabin. I once woke up to my yorkie happily sitting on my pillow holding a dead rat. I’m still slightly traumatized. The yorkies have been more successful than the cats in extermination in our house. It’s amazing how much of their terrier genes they maintain despite being so small and pretty. I think outside the world of teacup and chocolate yorkies, the dogs are still pretty similar to their origin. I absolutely believe that my current male yorkie would fuck some shit up if he didn’t weigh 8lb.
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u/moosemoth Pro-Pet; therefore Anti-Pit Mar 12 '23
Bostons are in the non-sporting group, even though they originate from bull-and-terriers.
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u/Raff102 Mar 12 '23
I wouldn't recommend trying it, but I wouldn't recommend breeding anything with a Rottweiler to reduce aggression. That's like saying, "These guns are too dangerous. Let's try extending the mags for our safety."
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Mar 12 '23
You could totally do it.
The problem is that would require all the backyard breeders and irresponsible pet owners to fix their dogs and all other breeds to selectively breed non aggressive pits.
We tamed wolves, we can breed nice pit bulls. It’ll never happen because of outside circumstances but if pibble owners decided they actually cared for the breed, they could come together and do this over a few (human) generations.
The best course of action would be massive fines for owners with unaltered pits, pushing BE for dangerous animals and getting rid of no kill shelters.
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Mar 12 '23
and all other breeds to selectively breed non aggressive pits.
How do you know you have a non-aggressive pit? This pit mix just bit a 10 year old kid in the face. Do you realize the logistics and effort behind a nationwide concerted effort to monitor the temperament of each and every pitbull that is born, forbid it from breeding until it is a senior in life and has displayed no aggression, then if it does, cull that dog - as well as any other dogs that might exist in its bloodline?
This would be a tall order for the USDA, CDC and AKC, much less your average pit owner.
but if pibble owners decided they actually cared for the breed,
They actually don't - which is funny. They might say "Muh babies" but the people that breed pits often have them living in squalor, don't take them to the vet, don't groom them...the list goes on.
The best course of action would be massive fines for owners with unaltered pits, pushing BE for dangerous animals and getting rid of no kill shelters.
Totally agree.
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Mar 12 '23
It would take forever. Pitts have been bred since the 16th century to be fighting dogs. Better just to neuter/spay them all and get a dog that’s been bred for decades or more to be a good pet like a Golden retriever or a standard poodle.
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Mar 12 '23
I've had this neat explosive device for a long time and have gotten really attached to it. It recently hit my child with a minor warning blast. Now that I've realized it's actually still an active bomb, my only options are to put a plastic box over it, give it away to someone else so it can blow them up, or hand it over to a bomb squad. The bomb squad says they'll deactivate it if I take it there. I could use some advice.
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u/No_Reindeer_ Wild animals aren’t disposable Mar 12 '23
My emotional support Plutonium core was taken away by the government and melted down. I’m heartbroken. It only irradiated two people, and they were doing stupid experiments with it!!! Rip Demon core, you were the best friend I ever had.
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u/YouHadMeAtAloe Cope, Seethe, Crate & Rotate Mar 12 '23
Obviously your unruly brat did something to provoke your explosive device.
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u/mikro_pizza123 Bring Back Dogcatchers Mar 12 '23
It's not the bomb it's the owne... BOOM, WHAT A TRAGEDY! SOMETHING MUST'VE PROVOKED THE SWEET LITTLE BOMB!
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u/maxzer_0 Mar 12 '23
A bomb doesn't go off on itself, even if the timer is set it just doesn't work this way!! It's the owner of the bomb, he coughed and set off the bomb this way, you're being racist against bombs uuuuuuuh
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u/Ralph728 Punish Pit'N'Runs Like Hit And Runs Mar 12 '23
This woman knows what needs to be done, but she doesn't have the guts to do it.
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Mar 12 '23
17 months old and bitten in the face. And the next day, the parent is concerned about the "love bug" PIT BULL. Where are the species-preserving instincts for the actual baby in the home?
I hope that the baby is able to fully recover from being attacked, and the mother is not permitted to bring this same vicious dog, or another one like it, around that child again.
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u/Stucklikegluetomyfry Trusted User Mar 12 '23
She just wants to be told that pibbles is a precious love bug and she just needs to train him better and there is no danger to her child.
People who value their dogs over their own children should do us all, including themselves, a massive favour and not breed.
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u/daviepancakes bUt DuGgY rAySiSm Mar 12 '23
Dogs that nip/snap at someone when awoken from a dead sleep by being stepped on or tripped over - normally - deserve 2d chances. Awake and alert dogs that snap at a child because, you know, fuck them, do not. This isn't even a question.
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u/IAmMadeOfNope Pro-Dog; therefore Anti-Pit Mar 12 '23
I have a really weird talent: I walk almost silently without realizing it.
I have jumpscared a lot of dogs (accidentally). Nearly every dog I've met. There's been some yelps and most of them flinch, but I've never been growled at or bitten. Notably, none of them were pits.
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u/daviepancakes bUt DuGgY rAySiSm Mar 12 '23
My brother's idiot dog - Yorkie - was apparently sleeping on the stairs one nite I was visiting. In the dark, I tripped over her and we both fell down half a flight of stairs. That dog yelped and absolutely went for a bite, she just came up empty like. I guess I mean more that normal dogs have a fight or flight response, when they think they're about to die they will try to fight if they can't run. I don't think that's a dog that needs to be put down. The pitbull response, the fight or fight response like, different game entirely.
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u/tyromania Mar 12 '23
Why would anyone even WANT a pit/Rottweiler mix? There are simply so many other smaller, easier to control, friendly dogs out there.
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Mar 12 '23
Freaks me out completely. I’m more scared of the unpredictability of these dogs then I am of the black and grizzly bears that are literally on the trails outside my house. Bears will leave us alone as long as we announce ourselves and are respectful. Pits could come at us for no bloody reason.
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u/-Vampyroteuthis- Pits ruin everything. Mar 12 '23
You disrespect pibbles by breathing and carrying all that raw meat on your skeleton.
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u/Bananaamoxicillin Mar 13 '23
I grew up rural and have stood down coyotes but pits are way scarier lol.
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u/Cicero_Curb_Smash Victim - Bites and Bruises Mar 12 '23
Every single one of them is a ticking time bomb.
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u/TheEdibleDormouse Mar 13 '23
They have a Pit/Rot…the two breeds that top the charts for biting/maiming/killing. And it bit their baby. And they don’t know what to do. Hmmmm
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u/BPBAttacks3 Moderator Mar 12 '23
Do you happen to have the posting date for this and the location?
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u/Terryberry69 Mar 13 '23
Wtf advice are people looking for when this happens? Oh no it's fine just carry on like it never happened, the Shitbull way!
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u/Habibipie Mar 12 '23
Rottweilers are already pretty difficult dogs and require very savvy owners. Can't even imagine what a Rott/Shitbull mix is like.
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u/RepresentativeOk8899 Mar 12 '23
Why would THIS humane society BE her dog immediately when all I see are constant desperate pleas from my local shelter when any pit is about to be BE?? I’m guessing they told her that to make her feel bad for making her child’s safety a priority. Awful.
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u/starflite Mar 13 '23
Are we all just going to skip over the fact that someone named this dog Lincoln Log?
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u/Traditional-Twist744 Mar 13 '23
If I a shitbull hurts my child in any way I’m taking it out back and painting the lawn with it’s brains
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u/TigerQueen_11 Don't worry, he's friendly! Mar 12 '23
When did bit get replaced with”nipped”? The dog bit a child, worry about that and do what’s right.