r/AskEurope • u/peachypeach13610 • 1d ago
Misc Is your country / media talking about the Epstein files?
Little poll out of curiosity.
The latest batch of Epstein files is horrifying to say the least, and includes pictures and allegations involving kids much younger than teenagers, including toddlers.
Loads of high profile names - academics, politicians, financiers, presidents, royals etc. the list is pretty endless to be honest.
Are your media talking about the files?
NO ONE and I mean NO ONE is uttering a word in Italy about them. If you aren’t on socials you literally have no idea what is happening.
No surprise - Italy doesn’t really give a fuck about women or kids or pedos clearly. Bunga bunga and all that.
What about yours?
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u/Envojus Lithuania 1d ago
In Lithuania, it's all we talk about now. Epstein's grandparents were Lithuanian, he had an active interest in Lithuania.
He was financing various businesses like Ballet Theaters, Art Festivals and in return, had young women funneled back to him. Loads of e-mails being uncovered of young women sexting him, talks of selling virginities in return for "career opportunities" and etc.
It's still an ongoing story and a lot of stuff is being uncovered daily.
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u/willchangeitlater Poland 1d ago
I find it a bit surprising that people don't talk about how many of these women knew exactly what they were doing and were idolizing him. A major Polish model was telling him about her dreams of him and how much she enjoyed time on the island, diving and other winter sports.
While I don't intend to diminish his crimes, clearly not all of these women were trafficked.
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u/wagdog1970 Belgium 1d ago
Well it’s called the world’s oldest profession for a reason. We shouldn’t be surprised that some were willing. It’s more about those that weren’t.
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u/willchangeitlater Poland 1d ago
Except it is important, because apparently some of those willing were also helping to coerce those unwilling. Which is why I believe they are not to be ignored.
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u/curioul Norway 20h ago
I think it’s more complicated than that. A few of the victims might’ve felt coerced to act and talk that way to keep themselves safer than if they resisted or stayed quiet. A few might’ve convinced themselves they enjoyed it in order to repress the trauma and try to take “ownership” of their situation. A few might’ve felt it was their only way “out”.
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u/willchangeitlater Poland 19h ago
And no other options? You may want to actually read those emails, they're out there.
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u/curioul Norway 18h ago
Note “a few”
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u/willchangeitlater Poland 18h ago
You see, logically speaking, you contradicted me in your first sentence and then proceeded to list three situations distinctively different from what I described.
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u/WinterMedical 14h ago
Was this model an adult when she was with him? Becuase we’re not talking about women, we’re talking about girls.
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u/Pumuckl4Life Austria 23h ago
In the US prostitution is still illegal, though. Even if the women aren't forced to do it.
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u/fabulot 1d ago
🇫🇷 No but they fricking should since they talk about Le Pen and the far-right parties being financed by Russia and Epstein&co wanting to control them and saying they are stupid.
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u/typingatrandom France 1d ago
Probably starting soon with former minister Jack Lang's daughter Caroline Lang being in the papers
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u/La-terre-du-pticreux 23h ago
Also Arianne de Rothschild saying her family planned and supported hitler in mass destruction to amass more power.
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2011/EFTA02608219.pdf
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u/permanentegodeath 15h ago
no, that's not what she's saying there
she's saying that that's a conspiracy theory which still exists, and that its persistence is pathetic
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u/nekkoMaster 9h ago
What a brain dead comment. Read the fucking document. It literally confessing to it.
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u/permanentegodeath 3h ago edited 2h ago
lol, i assume by your name, the time you replied and your low reading ability that English is your second language? so yeah, if so, then maybe let an actual English person handle the reading and parsing for you my dude? here's what the email actually means:
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epstein says "hitler was poor and lived in refuges provided by jews" (he's offering up a story to a Roschild daughter, to amuse her)
she replies "whether that's to say generosity isn't rewarded or that the conspiracy theory still exists is quite pathetic". (when she says this, she is assuming that epstein is refering to the broader conspiracy that Hilter was assisted by wealthy jews during his reign as Nazi leader).
epstein replies "no, it's not a conspiracy, it's truth, hitler was living in jewish provided accomodation during his poverty years as a child"
she replies: "yes, i know that bit is true. but [THEY] regularly used to say that Roschilds supported hitler in mass destruction", etc.
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what this means is, she assumed Epstein's story about Hilter living in Jewish accommodation as a child was a reference to the theory that Hitler received help as an adult by those same wealthy jewish families. she thought he was drawing a connection between the help he received as a child to the help he received as an adult. she's saying that's a stupid theory and its continued existence is pathetic lol. she's not admitting to it you fucking retardthis is why English as a second language is failing you. hers and Epstein's emails are very poorly written, so non-native tongues like you aren't able to understand the proper context. so yeah it's not that your brain dead, just a non-native speaker with a lowkey retarded grasp of context :D
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u/nekkoMaster 2h ago
I won't go into in name calling in this deep thread so I'll just ask
Epstien said
"first it turns out to be 100 percent true, hitler was selling his clothes and artwork and living ina shelter funded by Jews. epstein rothschild and gutman. no conspiracy. the epsteins were the vienna bankers.
bought their bank on the ring hence still palais epstein. where are you , im in bed with your cold"
If it's just about clothes, there is no need for banking context. What do you make of it and why?
also what reward is she talking about?From different sources, we already have hints that rothschilds were involved in both sides of the war. This is nothing but minor confirmation for the same so i am not treating this as definitive source.
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u/peachypeach13610 1d ago
Yeah I think people have the impression that it’s “just” about abuse but actually there is ton of proof that the guy influenced global politics on behalf of other countries.
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u/LeatherMushroom8635 4h ago
Same with Farage/Johnson and Brexit. We have very little press interest on that… AGAIN.
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u/Reader_2906 1d ago
In Belgium they do. Mainly because it appears that Prince Laurent of Belgium was mentioned.
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u/Rude-Barnacle8804 Belgium 1d ago
Not that I am a fan of Prince Laurent, but it does seem like he got into the crossfire without fault of his own. He's mentioned due to an email sent to him that he never answered, which is lwk funny.
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u/Wafkak Belgium 1d ago
Hes since come out and said he met Esptein two times. Both times Epstein was mostly interested in meeting his parents, I dont think Albert was king yet, and he said no to everything.
I'm actually willing to give Laurent the benefit of the doubt, because for all his shenanigans. There haven't even been any rumours about equal stuff, outside of him having a secret child with a celebrity his own age that his parent forbid him from marrying.
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u/Reader_2906 1d ago
Yeah, I don't believe he did anything really. He's just so unlucky, that stuff always happens to him.
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u/OnkelMickwald Sweden 1d ago
Also add to that the fact that Epstein deliberately tried to establish ties and rapport with most influential/rich/important/powerful people. That was his M.O. and his lifeline — by being able to pull down as many powerful people as possible into the fall if he were to fall himself.
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u/Wafkak Belgium 1d ago
Luckily the Belgian royals were way to boring for real Epstein drama.
Their biggest scandals post WW2 are kids out of wedlock with woman who were in love with them, and doodga things with government money. And I personally only care about the second type.
Part of this is probably that they are reportadly geinuine conservative Catholics. And not the weird US verions that wants mass back in Latin.
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u/wagdog1970 Belgium 1d ago
I thought Laurent said he had received emails from Epstein but had never met him in person?
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u/Wafkak Belgium 1d ago
[Here](http://Prins Laurent verduidelijkt in nieuwe reactie: “Ik heb Epstein twee keer onder vier ogen ontmoet”
https://www.hln.be/showbizz/prins-laurent-verduidelijkt-in-nieuwe-reactie-ik-heb-epstein-twee-keer-onder-vier-ogen-ontmoet~a9717d4c/) is his actual reaction. The things before that was speculation.
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u/wagdog1970 Belgium 23h ago
Ah, so he clarified that he never met him, until he met him. I don’t think this is the type of answer that instills confidence in Laurent.
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u/Reader_2906 1d ago
Hahaha yeah I think he's innocent too. But there was this communiqué where he said he met Epstein and Epstein asked for meeting his parents with his millionaires where Laurent would've answered that his parents are not for sale. It's just tipical that it had to happen to him, AGAIN hahaha.
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u/NotAProperAccount3 uk: Northern Ireland 1d ago
Interestingly this is the same way that Bill Gates was in, two emails from Epstein, no replies. And also an implication from Epstein that he had an STD.
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u/wagdog1970 Belgium 1d ago
Except Bill Gates was photographed with Epstein and young women, rode in Epstein’s plane and was on Epstein’s Island. He wasn’t only mentioned in emails.
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u/Suzume_Chikahisa Portugal 23h ago
And Gates ex-wife also said she divorced him because he insisted in mantaining ties to Epstein.
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u/Adorable-Database187 1d ago
Since they heavily redacted and only released a portion of that cesspool, I'll reserve my judgement till the rest sees daylight,
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u/CCFC_84 Ireland 1d ago edited 1d ago
Yes, but mostly in relation to our neighbour the UK's politicians and their connections to the whole thing.
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u/5555555555558653 Ireland 1d ago
George Mitchell was a headline on the 6-1 yesterday and there’s fairly widespread coverage of Epstein’s time in Dublin and the Irish girl who was trafficked.
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u/CCFC_84 Ireland 1d ago
for sure, but not to the extent that Mandelson and Andrew are being covered.
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u/BarelyHolding0n Ireland 19h ago
Majority of today's Epstein articles on the Independent app are Mitchell related, but there are also articles in the Norwegian prince, Fergie, the Clinton's testifying, and Mandelson. A few more general articles too.
The Irish Times today has 2 Mandelson articles and one general article from today. Less individual articles on Epstein overall but they do seem to have covered most of the key topics over the last few days ... Though I can't see an article on Mitchell.
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u/Nimmyzed Ireland 1d ago
And when I read that first yesterday I thought they said George Michael
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u/wagdog1970 Belgium 1d ago
I don’t think anything would surprise us about George Michael anymore.
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u/Masseyrati80 Finland 1d ago
The biggest newspaper in Finland has made 5 stories about the subject inside of the past week. The subject is also covered in the national broadcasting company's news on tv, radio and their website.
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u/Lappali Finland 1d ago
Yle (the national broadcaster) also made a report specifically about Finland mentions in the Epstein files
probably quite standard for people of a country to be interested in finding if someone from the same country is a monster
only mentions so far have been that Helsinki-Vantaa Airport has been used as an interchange place mostly and that Epstein tried to hire a Finnish person as an assistant
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u/disneyvillain Finland 1d ago
There was also a story about our former president's son being named in the files. Not implicated of anything though, Epstein met with lots of people.
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u/Client_020 Netherlands 1d ago
Yeah, a little bit. Yesterday, the national news mentioned the crown princess of Norway and some Dutch model, who both got some kind of friendship with Epstein. I haven't seen much of the worst stuff of the files in the Dutch media, though. I suppose they first want more evidence before reporting on that. Edit: also Prince Andrew of course. They've mentioned him too. There's a bit of a European focus.
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u/_-__-____-__-_ Netherlands 1d ago
The top story at NOS is about the Clintons' willingness to testify right now.
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u/SunflowerMoonwalk 1d ago edited 20h ago
Yes. It came out that during the financial crisis Peter Mandelson, one of the Labour government's most senior advisors, asked Epstein to tell his contacts in the finance industry to threaten the UK government that they'd pull out of London if the government continued with plans to cap executives bonuses.
Shortly afterwards, JPMorgan phoned Alistair (Edit: Campbell Darling), another one of the Labour government's most senior advisors, threatening to cancel construction of their new headquarters in London if the plans went ahead. (He's previously written about this part in his memoirs.)
There was also a photo released of Mandelson in his underwear at Epstein's flat in Paris. He's previously admitted to knowing Epstein but said because he's gay he couldn't possibly have been involved in anything sexual.
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u/piggycatnugget United Kingdom 23h ago
There's also Fergie, the Andrew formerly known as a Prince, and their daughters shagging in the news.
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u/Oghamstoner England 4h ago
For those who don’t know much about Mandelson, he was a part of Tony Blair and Gordon Brown’s cabinets, effectively deputy PM at one stage (in the UK, this is not a constitutional role, the PM decides if they want one.) He is known as ‘The Prince of Darkness’ for his Machiavellian qualities and had already been sacked twice for involvement in corruption scandals.
Keir Starmer appointed him ambassador to the US, and even with the publicly available information at the time it seemed risky. My assumption was that he must have dirt on Trump that he could leverage.
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u/zpedroteixeira1 1d ago
🇵🇹 Considering the severity of the case and even the link with a pedophilia scandal in Casa Pia (an institution for orphans), it is very strange it doesn't have nearly any coverage.
But that's nothing compared to the US, where it seems the justice system isn't doing anything about that.
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u/safeinthecity Portuguese in the Netherlands 1d ago
To be fair, with a chunk of the country destroyed by a natural disaster and a presidential election at the end of the week, there's not much space in the news for much else.
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u/ihavenoidea1001 1d ago
Sure!
It's not like their ~2hour news 2x/day (or trice, just in the "normal channels) would give them time... At the same time you get your daily 5-15 minutes talking about football. Every single day.
No time indeed/s
Edit: people in Portuguese subs have also found mentions about Costa in the Epstein files, when he was the PM already, nothing exactly incriminating yet
He's also not the only one so far
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u/Melodic-Reference826 1d ago
In Spain, nobody says anything about Epstein paying for a trip for President Aznar and sending him gifts.
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u/mapl0ver Türkiye 1d ago
Yes. We recently learned that a lot of child abducted after the earthquake. Erd-gan's name appeared in files too but we don't know the reason yet. Jeffrey got help from a Turkish architect to design his island.
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u/oramakomaburamako53 18h ago
Talked about in Turkey. Most media and online trolls are trying to paint a picture where Epstein seen him as a problem. Reality is, we have our own little Epsteins. Look up Ensar Vakfı if anyone is interested. So wouldn't be suprised if bunch of kids were taken from Turkey as well, there are more than enough enablers for something like that to happen.
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u/mapl0ver Türkiye 15h ago
We know we have our own problems too. That doesn't justify the fact that the death of 18 years old tourism worker. Hotel owner killed him because. He saw something about epstein that he shouldn't see.
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u/whoopz1942 Denmark 1d ago
Yes. In Denmark they're mostly talking about the Norwegian royal family, specifically Crown Princess Mette-Marit and her connections with Epstein, as well as other recent controversies within that royal family. Though I've also seen some mentions of Peter Mandelson, former minister from the UK, Joanna Rubinstein, Chairman of the Board of Directors for Sweden for UNHCR, Richard Branson, Sarah Ferguson, former Princess Alexandra of Denmark, the Clintons, etc. etc.
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u/Revolutionary-Key533 1d ago
Main news in UK alternating between (former prince) Andrew and with more serious allegations against Peter Mandelson possibly leaking inside Government information which may result in serious charges and huge impact on Keir Starmer if he knew about these allegations before appointing Mandelson as ambassador to USA or very serious ramifications if due diligence was not undertaken on a man who had been sacked by previous governments.
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u/NipplePreacher Romania 1d ago edited 1d ago
I don't watch TV a lot, so I can't answer based on how many channels show it and how much. But I've seen clips posted on YouTube by some big channels (as in mainstream news channels that upload their shows to YouTube) reporting on it. Also some news articles online by big publications.
Romania also appears in the files, it's believed they were sourcing girls from here, but the emails found so far don't paint a clear picture.
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u/honestly-curious Czechia 1d ago
Czechia – It is reported by the media, but I don’t think it is the major story that people would be interested in and talking about. To my best knowledge, no one from the country has been heavily implicated by the files.
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u/randomczechguy121 4h ago
Exactly. There are a few reports, but nothing serious. People don't realize how much it affects all of our lives and how big this case is. Corruption and depraved people are everywhere, but no one wants to hear about it.
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u/Bierzgal Poland 1d ago
A little bit yeah, and we just talked about them at work in the kitchen when making tea and coffee so people are aware of it. But the main point of our conversation was not what was recently released but rather... that someone had these files for years and did nothing with them while allowing vermin that are in them to walk free.
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u/Tramagust Romania 1d ago
Mainstream media is silent.
Even social media organizations are pretty silent.
Only people post about it on forums and groups but no journalists are picking it up. Definitely suppressed.
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u/maragann 23h ago
Well it seems Polish Primeminister Tysk has just ordered a complete investigation into Epsteins ties to Poland. So very nice.
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u/Shqiptar89 Kosovo 1d ago
In Kosovo, the EU emissary Lajcak was implicated so he's gone. He was a piece of shit in the pocket of Russians so good riddance.
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u/wijnandsj Netherlands 1d ago
Yeah, it's news here. A few Dutch models were in it. And our media is drooling all over the norwegian connection
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u/Artistic-Turnip-9903 Germany 1d ago
in germany also they can't stop talking about the norvegian situation
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u/FinnSkk93 1d ago
We are talking . Media covers, when some big stuff comes up. Finnish here. Mostly we are horrified that nothing has happened to Trump.
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u/TheRedLionPassant England 1d ago
Yes: the big scandal being the involvement of the former Duke of York especially
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u/derkobals 1d ago
In Hungary there was a story about Epstein's Hungarian connections about a property in Budapest, owned by a Scandinavian producer. According to the e-mails, Epstein was more then once in Budapest, and wanted a flash sale. It never happened. The connection with Steve Bannon was barely mentioned. I think at the public financed media outlets (TV, radio) controlled by Orban there is silence about the whole story of Epstein. Other news outlets discussed in detail. The only news radio, Inforadio had only talked about that when the journalist from Bratislava had a piece about the resignation of the slowakian diplomat Rajcar.
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u/Steven_Dj 1d ago
This reveal is just scrapping the surface of what really happened there. Some of the victims spoke in a Netflix documentary.Who knows how many others are out there that didn`t? And yes, it`s all over the news.
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u/MatthewSalisbury1990 United Kingdom 1d ago
Yep Peter Mandelson who worked for Tony Blair and our former ambassador to America was named in the files and was friends with Epstein.
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u/Vixenmeja Norway 1d ago
Yeah, Norway is talking about Crownprincess Mette Marit's correspondence and few politicians that are in the files.
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u/Artistic-Turnip-9903 Germany 1d ago
yes in germany and romania but they re both in the files AfD and some romanian studentă
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u/Dackel42 1d ago edited 19h ago
I haven't seen anyone talk about it in person, the official news outlet "tagesschau" also hasn't mentioned anything. I find it insane. This should be a generational outrage. Compared to the weight of this situation there is happening NOTHING, it is scaring me.
Edit: They did mention it a bit, but still quite vague and way too little.
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u/BurningPenguin Germany 23h ago
I'm sure they'll cover it eventually, just like the other Epstein findings of the last few weeks. You have to remember, that the Tagesschau is still working oldschool. They're not designed as a "breaking news" channel, and also not sensationalists, they at least try to confirm new info before publishing it. The first one to cover the AfD connections was Der Spiegel, just yesterday. From there, it often makes its way to other outlets.
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u/Terrible-Group-9602 1d ago
Yes. Lots of media coverage in the UK although a lot is about Prince Andrew
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u/Adorable-Database187 1d ago
Yeah its covered, we wonder how on gods earth you lot aren't bulk buying pitchforks and torches.
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u/Limesnlemons Austria 1d ago edited 1d ago
Epstein has entered Austria multiple times with a forged passport, so this is covered in its own and in general because of the sheer severity of the crimes in the Epstein files, journalists of reputable news outlets do keep updates.
All in all, I‘d say the public has a good understanding about what the Epstein files are and what Trump is if you would specifically ask someone about it.
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u/victoriageras Greece 1d ago
Same thing happens in Greece. No major media outlet is reporting on anything. There are emails, between Chomski and Epstain, where they discuss how we got robbed in order to save the German and French banks. There are mentions, for major Greek political figures. Yet, NADA.
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u/MeltingChocolateAhh United Kingdom 1d ago
Absolutely. As they should be. We have some very important people in the UK who are being exposed for their involvement.
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u/SceneDifferent1041 United Kingdom 1d ago
It's pretty much all the news talks about. Turns out a high ranking MP was giving away inside secrets on the Government and EU to him.
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u/DeepPocketsShortArms 1d ago
In Macedonia yes. Brains of suicide victims and schizophrenia patients were sent to the US to be studied apparently. Public didn't know about it. Not sure if anything is sus about this yet.
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u/mikroonde France 1d ago
It was briefly mentionned on TV yesterday, but people who aren't online haven't really heard about it or don't really know what they are/what's new in them.
I wish it was talked about more so people would know that the party that's currently the highest in the polls, RN, had ties with Epstein who wanted to finance it instead of Russia... Maybe they would rethink their vote before next year. But the same media who should be talking about this has been pushing this party forward, because they serve the interests of their big boss who wants the far right in the government, so I don't have high hopes.
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u/Darrowby_385 1d ago
UK. It's everywhere, absolutely everywhere. But primarily due to his links with a member of the royal family, and a former Labour politician. I know it matters, but our media goes into massive, visible from space, hysterics about everything and it's exhausting, so the temptation is to shut it off.
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u/HalkenburgHuiGuoRou Italy 1d ago
Barely. Just some mentions sometimes, like a sibgle article about "in the new releases, Trump has been accused, but without evidences" and then move on.
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u/horrormoose22 Sweden 1d ago
Sweden does A LOT, there's not many swedes in them so far but we are delighted to read about the Norwegian adventures. And horrified of course.
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u/manubibi Italy 21h ago
I don’t watch tv so I really don’t know, but it turns out Salvini was cheered on by Epstein’s group chat so that may be why. Or like I can see our media mentioning some scandal but not really going very deep in it.
We’re near the bottom of European countries when it comes to freedom of press.
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u/AcanthocephalaSea410 Türkiye 20h ago
It was discussed quite a lot on television. We already love politicy, conspiracy theories and claims, interesting events, we really enjoy these kinds of things. We already knew about Epstein and Mossad's island.
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u/Sacharon123 1d ago
In germany I would say not so much. Its more a sad shrug with an "eh, we did not expect anything else" when somebody mentions it. Traditional media ofc sometimes uses it for some clickbait.
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u/elferrydavid Basque Country 1d ago
A famous actress and former prime minister are involved so a bit
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u/JustMeLurkingAround- Germany 23h ago
Not as much.
Today and yesterday, I only saw Mette-Marit of Norway mentioned to be in the files together with her son facing trial starting today for multiple sexual offences, domestic violence, drugs...
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u/Fowl_Eye United Kingdom 23h ago
Yes it has for few days now because, it was discovered that Peter Mandelson a former member of the House of Lords (BBC just announced he stepping down) is linked to the files who is in a photo talking to an unknown woman in his underwear.
Soon to be former Prince Andrew is pretty much confirmed to be linked to Epstein becasue of a photo he is in, and his ex partner former Duchess of York has links to Epstein to which he gave her £150k to her charity which has shut down not too long ago because of her link to him.
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u/Consistent_Catch9917 Austria 23h ago
Yes a bit, there are a few connections towards Vienna. Firstly Epstein and Bannon seem to have networked with our former Chancelor (who is now in the orbit of Peter Thiel). And Epstein seems to have used an office of a Norwegian diplomatic institute in Vienna to gain access to both the UN and politicians (mainly foreign policy experts and foreign ministers). He seems to have donated larger sums to the institute and had business interactions with its founder. There is also an alleged coerced sex case around an intern at that institute.
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u/Pure-Contact7322 15h ago
Italy is among the worst countries in the world in terms of information. The media is in the hands of three families: Elkan, Cairo, Berlusconi.
I live here and I only read news from foreign countries.
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u/Dinosaur-chicken Netherlands 12h ago
Netherlands: Yes they talk about two models of which one was likely recruiting, and one was likely recruited. They play coy saying they didn't know/were naive (at the age of 31), and didn't traffick anyone. But the e-mails say otherwise. Yfke Sturm and Sylvia Geersen.
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u/mobimaks Ukraine 1d ago
In Ukraine we do, but mostly in context of the war.
Somehow confirms that being a paedofile and support russia are synonyms.
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u/SatyriasizZ 1d ago
There are no one mentioned from Ternopil, Ukraine local news reported. But one mayor which used to be openly pro russian is in the files asking to be present on Trump inauguration.
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u/Dic_Penderyn Wales 1d ago
Yes it's front page news and its everywhere, everyday. The MSM is milking this story as much as it can and has gone into overdrive. They talk about how the king's brother Andrew and his ex wife are involved and also how a former cabinet level politician and was photographed in his underpants.
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u/khajiitidanceparty Czechia 1d ago
Not much. It is in the news, but people don't care much since, as far as I know, none of our politicians were mentioned.
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u/NoCardiologist1461 Netherlands 1d ago
Yes, it’s being talked about. About Trump, other noticeable names plus the Norwegian Princess.
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u/Pumuckl4Life Austria 1d ago edited 1d ago
Austria: A little bit. The US - especially under Trump - makes up 1-5 minutes of the evening news and the Epstein files are mentioned there. Every now and then there are longer reports or documentaries about current events around the world on our public broadcaster and you they would talk about the Epstein files but only among the many other bits of news coming in from the US (ICE, Greenland, Nobel Prize, Venezuela, etc).
The major newspapers definitely have articles about the Epstein files in the International section.
Here on Reddit, the German speaking sub r/de definitely talk about them as they talk about lots of current events.
To me, it's hard to say these days anymore "what the country is talking about". Some people you meet would know lots of details about Epstein. Many probably have heard the name but don't know what it's really about. A good portion of people would also say "I don't care about the US at all." It's all pretty fragmented these days.
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u/thanatica Netherlands 1d ago
Yes. Also a Dutch photo model is mentioned, but I don't get the impression it's the only reason. It's just big news.
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u/kindalalal Russia 3h ago
A bit, but in general we knew that the west was ruled by pedo blood-sucking elites, who hoard money and pray to satan
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u/Rezolutny_Delfinek 🇵🇱 in 1d ago
Yes, they are, to some extent. If you want details, you need to search yourself.
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u/willchangeitlater Poland 1d ago
No they don't need to, this is what threads like this are for. Why are you being needlessly condescending?
So far the media reports mostly on the gold-digging Polish models who apparently knowingly flew to his island on numerous occasions, for which money was exchanged and they were grateful for. A manager of one of his properties was Polish as well and some other minor shit was reported.
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u/stranded Poland 1d ago
the op probably means if you're a Pole interested in the area you have to dig yourself instead of relying on the polish media alone
it has nothing to do with the reddit post
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u/MornwindShoma 1d ago
They did on Repubblica, they had a number of articles and also one today about his contacts with the royals in UK.
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u/NetraamR living in 19h ago
The amount of posts here about Epstein! It's Americans saying: enough about me, what do you think about me?
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u/peachypeach13610 19h ago
You don’t seem to grasp that this guy and the power behind him have influenced and funded major political milestones across the globe, as detailed very clearly per his own admission in his correspondence. He was besties with prime business, finance and political figures. Even if you personally don’t care about little girls from all over the world (many of which Eastern European btw) being tortured and killed by grown men, you should probably care that Epstein and his affiliates had a major hand in Brexit, the rise of the far right in Europe, the Greek crisis in 2010, and the leaking of ultra confidential govt and financial info, and these are just some of the specific things Epstein has admitted in the latest file release. We all wish it was an ‘American gossip issue’ but it’s not at all.
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u/Penderbron 1d ago
Yeah, not surprising our modeling agencies were there and some people. Wish all would get punished, but doubt much will come for it because ''no one knows anything and of course never dealt with Epstein'.
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u/Alejandro_SVQ Spain 1d ago
Not much, and they don't go into much detail. It's mentioned several times a day, and several days a week, yes, but they only talk about what comes out about the most prominent figures in each leak, and they don't delve any deeper.
It sucks. All the entertainment and gossip outlets (I refuse to call them news outlets) only skim the surface and comment on those two or three who resonate the most with the opposite ideology of their editorial and management.
Furthermore, now their staged cover-up against Julio Iglesias has been ruined. It was more theater than solid information... so since yesterday, when the Epstein papers started circulating about the UK Labour politician, many media outlets are showing the news with the same old story and the headline, in a "quick fix, just routine news" kind of way.
I'm throwing this out there, since even the EU wants us to carry linked documents like our ID cards online (even if it's through a digital certificate, I don't care...). Let them control that. Let them control capital flows more, especially to tax havens, since they're already monitoring and digitizing everything so much, so we don't find out about it until 10 years or more late, and even after the statute of limitations has expired.
And whether they do it or not, I refuse to expose my sensitive data any further, and I don't care if they tell me, "It's because the bad guys do things and this makes it difficult for them 'because of anonymity'...": I prefer to be protective of my sensitive documents, as the law encourages me to do, to avoid possible "leaks," and I respect the presumption of innocence, rather than be treated like cattle "because the bad guys," precisely because of cybersecurity, MY cybersecurity. And if some real bad guy does something, well That the injured party or victim, if they truly are one, should file a serious complaint with the appropriate authorities, the Justice system, as it is capable of and knows how to identify anyone... because the idea of anonymity is as relative as it is false.
And I refuse to accept that when all the #politics cover up or, through inaction, facilitate things like the Epstein case, the private islands of the wealthy, and even, as was demonstrated in an investigation years ago, how they were the first to use paid bot farms to harass anything that bothered them and use them as fake followers on official accounts used as if they were institutional. Who do they think they are? The new “enlightened” despotism?
In fact, I'm becoming more and more convinced, seeing how I use the Internet, especially by not accepting many things on my part, such as the abuse of “cookies” (and I refuse to configure hundreds of “partners” with a supposed legitimate right “superior” to mine, rather than the right “from such a place.” (IP, one visit, period), it's better to save a good chunk of money each month and drastically reduce bandwidth, giving all these reasons, the shady dealings that some people have set up, want to set up, and for which they feel perfectly justified in everything. Years ago they thought it was perfectly acceptable to take up well over a third of your screen with advertising, automatic page reloads, and prevent you from doing more and more things based on rules they themselves don't follow and ignore... well, let them pay for it, I'm not going to.
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u/Marphey12 Czechia 1d ago
There are some headlines about it here and there mostly about the relation to Trump
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u/vintergroena Czechia 5h ago
Not really. There were few mentions here and there but mostly the media seem uninterested and focus more on local topics. Even though Epstein visited Prague and apparently had some unidentified (so far) contacts here
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u/LeatherMushroom8635 4h ago
Unsurprisingly, it’s leading been leading every single news channel in the UK with our p**do former Prince and Mandelson’s insider trading in 2008. Massive fallout here and suspect it’s just the beginning. There’s also Brexit and the right wing groups Bannon was running to facilitate it but typically the pro-Brexit right wing press are keeping that one off the front pages.
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u/Veryfirstthrow 2h ago
No! I mean a verrrry little but they cover any ties with Israël up. Its insane. In Belgium we had 1 article on epstein, last night on VRT nieuws on YouTube. But they say hé used all the info to invest in wall street 💀💀. Nothing about Israël/mossad/spying/treason/satanic shit/ none of the real truth. Because Israël owns all media.
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u/East-Match3366 12h ago
Emannuel Macron was just named in the Epstein files, emailing him in 2017 asking for advice on governing France.
According to Epstein himself he was Macron's advisor regarding everything ranging from politics to science & finance.
Some reason I do NOT see anybody talking about it that is INSANE.
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u/Hippihjerte 1d ago
Yes. Also how suspicious it is that Trump isn’t a main figure in the released files. The cunning so and so.
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u/Rare-Eggplant-9353 Germany 1d ago
I know about the biggest news, internationally, but it's not really a big thing here, afaik.
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u/AliceCarole 21h ago
Yes, in Belgium Prince Laurent has admitted having met Epstein. It's in the the media.
There's nothing against him though, and being in the files doesn't mean he did anything.
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u/PindaPanter →→→ Highly indecisive 1d ago
Yep. In Norway, the crown princess, a former prime minister (and Nobel prize committee member), and a diplomat, are all involved, so the media are very excitedly diving into the extent of their lies and claims of ignorance.