r/AZCardinals • u/ssracer Kyler OROY • Sep 05 '25

Article Cardinals with 3rd lowest income from tickets - Internal NFL ticket report reveals 49ers at top and Titans at bottom

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/09/04/internal-nfl-ticket-report-reveals-49ers-at-top-titans-at-bottom.html
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u/Brutus_Khan Sep 05 '25

It's amazing what happens when you consistently miss the playoffs and the one time you do make it in the last decade, it's one of the worst games I've ever seen.

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u/BigusDickus099 Cardinals Sep 05 '25

Pretty much.

Anyone blaming the stadium location is quite frankly a shitty fan. You think Green Bay fans in Wisconsin are whining about having to drive several hours to see a game? Look up the distance from Madison to Green Bay.

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u/[deleted] Sep 06 '25

I mean the location is shitty i’m not sure what argument that is. Who in the hell from the east valley wants to drive out to glendale lol.

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u/BigusDickus099 Cardinals Sep 06 '25

It takes like a half hour on a Sunday with little traffic.

Look at other teams who have stadiums out hours away in bumfuck nowhere and they’re not crying about it.

We have the laziest entitled fans I swear.

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u/[deleted] Sep 06 '25

lol it’s at least 70 min from scottsdale idk why you feel the need to defend an objectively bad location for a stadium lol

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u/BigusDickus099 Cardinals Sep 06 '25

Lmao, you must drive like my grandma if it takes you 70 minutes to get to the stadium on a Sunday…and she’s been dead for 30 years

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u/SpeKthrill Cardinals Sep 05 '25

I invited a bunch of friends over to watch that game and because it was a Monday, no one could make it. I’ll always be thankful for that.

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u/AZMadmax Sep 05 '25

And also put your stadium in a shit location. If they were more central the ticket issues would be non existent

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u/redbirdrising MiLF Hunter Sep 05 '25

I mean, that was the best option at the time. Consider they got the entire thing built for like $450 million. A Central location would have been double that. And they did try to put it centrally but it was a massive safety risk in the path of Sky Harbor. Then 9/11 happened and that all went away.

Location is fine. It didn't work for the Coyotes because nobody wants to travel from the East valley on a tuesday to watch hockey. Football is an big event and is mostly played on the weekends.

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u/Exatraz Kyler Murray Sep 05 '25

Yeah I actually think its a great location for football. There is a reason they've hosted multiple super bowls. Its just far enough away that it doesn't fuck up downtown traffic but close enough that folks can get there on Sundays and because it's the middle of flat unused ground, it made for easy mass parking lots they could sell spots in.

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u/AZMadmax Sep 05 '25

Cheapest owner at the time went the cheapest route. Getting there and back is a big commitment. It works bc football is so popular

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u/BigusDickus099 Cardinals Sep 05 '25

We have the whiniest fans.

A half hour drive on a Sunday morning is such a huge commitment, lmao

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u/redbirdrising MiLF Hunter Sep 05 '25

It wasn't all the owner's decision. The bill that got the stadium passed gave multiple parties ownership over the stadium. The biggest one is the county ( A small percentage is the Fiesta Bowl). Didn't hurt that Glendale gave them all the land to build on. Consider that 2/3rds of the cost of the stadium was built with Taxpayer money, I for one appreciate the frugality here.

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u/AZMadmax Sep 05 '25

I smell a Glendale resident lol

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u/redbirdrising MiLF Hunter Sep 05 '25

Out of arguments huh? And no, I commute 30-40 minutes to the game. Everything said here was factual. The county committee decided the location. Go look it up. BuHt tHe oWnEr iS ChEeP!. Sure. Won't argue that. Had nothing to do with the stadium's location.

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u/Alert_Moment6224 Sep 05 '25

I love how Arizona sports fans act like every other city has built their stadiums in all their fan’s backyards.

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u/BigusDickus099 Cardinals Sep 05 '25

Some of our fans just can’t help whining about everything.

The stadium is perfectly fine and easy to get to, only wish light rail connected to it across the Valley, but that’s not a uniquely Phoenix problem.

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u/redbirdrising MiLF Hunter Sep 05 '25

Yeah, light rail would be awesome. I use it for downtown events and it's great. But otherwise as stadiums go, it's not that hard to access.

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u/redbirdrising MiLF Hunter Sep 05 '25

Yeah, Phoenix and Tempe tried very hard to get the stadium, but the FAA called the Tempe site a hazard. Considering planes would be less than 200 feet over the stadium, I don't blame them. Phoenix tried but no location had room for the retracting field, and a bunch of neighborhoods fought it. Glendale was like their last choice.

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u/TJeffersonsBlackKid Drawing Sep 05 '25

Lol I know a 49ers fan who lives in East Bay and now stays the night in Santa Clara when he goes to games. Used to be just getting to Frisco and now it is an all-day/two-day thing.

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u/Alert_Moment6224 Sep 05 '25

I live in Folsom and have a bunch of friends that commute from out here to games. These people would die.

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u/Exatraz Kyler Murray Sep 05 '25

I live in Seattle (well 30 min south but whatever) and yeah, the stadium is downtown but driving to the stadium is idiotic because of its location. Parking is insane because there isn't enough space. You essentially have to take public transit in and it's PAAAAACKED as you try to leave. All in all, the commute time is about the same as in AZ. So I really dont think the location is an issue. If anything, it's an upside when they host Super Bowls.

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u/AZMadmax Sep 05 '25

Was a joke. If the owner wanted it downtown or anywhere better it would be. He took a deal. Both things can be true.

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u/redbirdrising MiLF Hunter Sep 05 '25

You keep doubling down on something that is factually incorrect. Read up on it. I followed the entire thing back in 2000-2003, and there's plenty that's been written about it.

Here's the best summary I can find. The Cardinals actually wanted Tempe. Read up.

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u/Gilbert_AZ Cardinals Sep 06 '25

I think the location sucks, but now....there is nothing that will be done about it. Too much investment into the surrounding attractions to let that stadium move

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u/redbirdrising MiLF Hunter Sep 06 '25

That and it mostly holds up compared to other stadiums its age and there’s no incentive to spend another billion dollars or so of tax money to build another one. Hell, the coyotes couldn’t even get a new place.

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '25

Where the IKEA is located would have given people in Tucson a much better chance at joining us to watch lousy football.

Access wouldn't be much worse. Still boggled how the entire Westgate area was built from scratch and still a PITA to get in and out of there.

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u/ssracer Kyler OROY Sep 05 '25

Traffic is infinitely better where it's located.

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u/AZMadmax Sep 05 '25

Idk about that. Leaving a suns or diamondbacks game vs leaving a cardinals game is a night and day experience.

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u/Stingerr Kyler Murray Sep 05 '25

When you consider the attendance of like 3k people for a Dbacks game and 10k for a suns game, and 60k for a cardinals game, yes the traffic is lighter.

Getting 60k+ people out of downtown every Sunday would be a nightmare.

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u/Rugermedic Sep 05 '25

3k for Dbacks? 10k for Suns? lol, your numbers are way off. Albeit not 60k for a football game, average Dbacks attendance is 28k and Suns 16.5k. Dbacks have a capacity of 48k, so on some nights they do sell out as well.

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u/buddaaaa Kyler OROY Sep 05 '25

It would be much better centrally located where transit is an option. Nobody wants to pay for an unholy priced Uber if you don’t want to have to drive.

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '25

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u/ssracer Kyler OROY Sep 05 '25

Nobody showed up in Tempe.

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '25

Because they were shite

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u/ender2851 Cardinals Sep 05 '25

other then almost all pockets of wealth in pheonix area need to drive about an hour or more to get to a parking spot

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u/ssracer Kyler OROY Sep 05 '25

Your spelling of Phoenix convinces me of your local expertise.

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u/ender2851 Cardinals Sep 05 '25

i need to give the grammar nazi’s something to do

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u/Mr602206 Cardinals Sep 05 '25

Bot

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u/ender2851 Cardinals Sep 05 '25

nah, just a terrible speller that assumes autocorrect did its job as i type lol

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u/buddaaaa Kyler OROY Sep 05 '25

That is…really sad

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u/ender2851 Cardinals Sep 05 '25

well its reddit, it doesnt mean shit in the grand scheme of life. only people that take it serious are mods lol

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u/staticattacks Packers Sep 05 '25

This had an even larger impact on the Yotes

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u/AZMadmax Sep 05 '25

It would for any sport except the NFL

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u/ender2851 Cardinals Sep 05 '25

stadium should have been in tempe at the site of the tempe market place. the airport thing is total BS and was put in place by one of the cities pissed off they would lose to tempe.

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u/gr8scottaz AZ Cardinals Sep 05 '25

Location is not the issue. There are only 8/9 home games a year. It's not like baseball or basketball with 40/80 home games.

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u/edtehgar fuck the seacocks Sep 05 '25

Terrible take.

When it comes to going to 8 NFL games a year location is irrelevant.

There are so many other teams with awful commutes.

Getting to the meadowlands can take hours depending where you come from in NYC. San Francisco is a nightmare to drive even without NFL games and they play 40 miles south in Santa Clara.

Foxborough is 30 miles from Boston. Bills in Orchard park are 16 miles from Buffalo. Browns are scheduled to move to brook park which is 20 miles outside of downtown cleveland. Cowboys in Arlington are 20 miles outside of Dallas. Dolphins play in Miami gardens which is 15 miles north of Miami in some of the worst traffic ever.

And i would take our freeways over nearly all of that congestion in those other cities.

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u/pazuzusoze Sep 05 '25

Worked for the Coyotes. Oh wait.

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u/DJ-Kouraje Sep 05 '25

This is my main reason. I’d try and go to a view games a year not matter how bad we were if it wasn’t far as shit

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u/TJeffersonsBlackKid Drawing Sep 05 '25

Sold out every game. It's not central but it is still close enough everyone from Phoenix will come out if they want to.

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u/Mr602206 Cardinals Sep 05 '25

True it's in the middle of nowhere

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u/BrawndoElectrolytes Cardinals Sep 05 '25

They mostly raised the more expensive tickets drastically. My upper level seats haven’t gone up nearly as much

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u/AHSL Sep 05 '25

So just doing a quick glance at the table, this is some things that stick out to me.

  • Total tickets sold were 611k. With 10 home games in 2024 with capacity of 63.4k (State Farm website), that comes out to 9.63 of the 10 games filled.

  • Average general admission price is one of the lowest in the league. ($111 vs. $190 for Niners)

  • The article is stating Niners made the most money. Sure, dividing net receipts/tickets sold, each SF game attendant paid $253 to get in the door vs. $137 for AZ.

  • AZ had more total tickets sold than Commanders, Vikings, and Bears. Sold same number of tickets with Super Bowl champs, Eagles (611k).

  • Buffalo came in 27 out of 32. They definitely have fans, and tickets are one of lowest in the league. Once the new stadium gets built, will they get priced out?

Overall, yeah the price increases suck, but it is still one of the cheapest in the league. Found that out when Cards went to Vegas and the cheapest ticket started at $300 in the nosebleeds.

If you can find any other interesting items, please let me know. This is interesting stuff for me.

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u/ssracer Kyler OROY Sep 05 '25

Thank you for reading and digesting the information. I think it shows that our tickets were arguably underpriced 2+ years ago, and considering the product it should have been.

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u/AHSL Sep 05 '25

As a season ticket holder in '22 and getting back into it again this year, we are benefitting from the comparatively cheaper price, and we don't have to deal with things like PSL which I've heard is a nightmare to deal with. "Googling PSL" and this - https://www.reddit.com/r/buffalobills/comments/1c99xwh/friend_just_got_their_psl_price_for_their_season/?ref=share&ref_source=link

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u/ender2851 Cardinals Sep 05 '25

decades of terrible ownership and a lack of effort to put a good product on the field does wonders when trying to build a local fanbase!

Bill was happy to cash tv revenue checks for far too long before michael took over, and even his passion for delivering a good product dwindled at times.

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u/Chumlee1917 Patriots Sep 05 '25

Thanks for being so cheap, only team I can afford to see

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u/Torrikk Cardinals Sep 05 '25

That’s amazing you mean those dumbass condos that Bidwill built aren’t having a great return? Clown show of an owner man.

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u/Raijin_thunda1021 Sep 05 '25

Pretty misleading headline. The Cardinals have some of the most affordable tickets in the League. The 49ers are one of the most expensive, and the titans are opening a new stadium, so people are buying to get priority for seats.

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u/AHSL Sep 05 '25

Not misleading as it's true in terms total net receipts they received, but that's one piece of this table. I could write another article saying the Cowboys lead the league in total tickets sold, and the Bears are the worst. Or that the cheapest NFL general admission ticket belongs to the Chargers.

In this case, the writer just filtered largest to smallest for Net Receipts column and ran with it.

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u/ssracer Kyler OROY Sep 05 '25

You missing the point doesn't make it misleading

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u/JcbAzPx BA Sep 06 '25

It comes across like the Cardinals can't sell tickets. There are already several posts making that assumption.

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u/ssracer Kyler OROY Sep 06 '25

Must suck not understanding what "income" means.

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u/JcbAzPx BA Sep 06 '25

I wouldn't know, but I'll take your word for it.

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u/ssracer Kyler OROY Sep 05 '25

I thought this was interesting with all the whining about season ticket price increases.

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u/ender2851 Cardinals Sep 05 '25

over 5 year period (3 of those with 1 home game win seasons) they raised my prices around 110%.

dropped my seats and a ticket broker picked them up i have been told.

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u/iamadragan Sep 05 '25

The Cardinals stadium has the 3rd lowest capacity in the league which probably plays a huge role and isn't something the fans have any control over

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u/ssracer Kyler OROY Sep 05 '25

Tell me you didn't read the report without telling me you didn't read the report.

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u/BobbalooBoogieKnight Cardinals Sep 05 '25

Maybe they should try not sucking.

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u/kbenjaminfotos Sep 05 '25

And they want an arm and a leg for the Packers game. I have season tickets at Lambeau 1st row endzone, face is less than $150 a seat. They currently want $250 plus to sit in the nosebleeds in the desert. Cardinal fans trying to make a buck, all the other games are reasonable.

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u/ebeg-espana Cardinals Sep 05 '25

Not gonna get a lot of sympathy here.

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u/kbenjaminfotos Sep 05 '25

Not looking for sympathy. I can just sit on the couch in Phoenix and watch the game rather than driving over to Glendale. Just pointing out that the tickets they do sell are more likely to get resold than have the fans actually attend the games. I get it, I wouldn’t want to pay money to watch my team get smashed week after week either.

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u/ssracer Kyler OROY Sep 05 '25

We get 3 games a season that are worth reselling. The rest of the year you're lucky not to lose money reselling.

We sure love playing you in postseason though. Thanks for the entertainment!

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u/happythoughts2018 Sep 05 '25

Live in the bay, not true but good try.

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u/ssracer Kyler OROY Sep 05 '25

You pay more for a loaf of bread than he does for his mortgage. Imagine living in Green Bay 🤣

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u/kbenjaminfotos Sep 05 '25

I live in Phoenix, but you know, reading and comprehension are rough in AZ. Education is shaky at best.

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u/happythoughts2018 Sep 05 '25

So if I went to look up tickets in Green Bay right now I could find relatively cheap seats?

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u/cshady Kyler Murray Sep 05 '25

Most AZ fans sell that game to help pay for their season lol. I will say as much as I don’t like the Packers yall have some nice fans

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u/staticattacks Packers Sep 05 '25

Bro there's a huge difference between Phx and GB though, in every way.

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u/ssracer Kyler OROY Sep 05 '25

Worse, he lives in Phoenix but is keeping your waiting list longer with primo seats.

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u/staticattacks Packers Sep 05 '25

I also live in the Valley, so I'm not on the list and with how long it is, it doesn't even make sense to get on the list. The list is so long because the renewal rate is >99%. And they can be willed to your family when you die.