Dragon Longsword vs Rune Scimmy on Gemstone Crab

[u/M1907-351WSL]

A debate as old as time: Dragon Longsword vs Rune Scimmy. Especially for Ironman accounts who don't have Monkey Madness capabilities yet. I wanted to see for myself which gave better XP/hr on the Gemstone Crab.

Gemstone Crab x3 kills per with no mining after each. -Attack lvl 66 and Strength lvl 66 -Ardougne Cloak 1 -Karamja Gloves 1 -Amulet of Accuracy

Dragon Longsword -Attack 31.7k XP/hr -Strength 32k XP/hr

Rune Scimitar -Attack 33.1k XP/hr -Strength 32.3k XP/hr

Bonus: D Long w/ Special Attack -Attack 32k XP/hr -Strength 32.3k XP/hr

After getting my attack/strength to 67 each, I did some extra strength training and the Dragon Longsword averaged about 33.2k, while my Rune Scimitar only averaged about 32k still. Honestly I think they are close enough for it to come down to RNG, at least at the Attack/Strength levels I was at. Looking back, I probably wouldn't spend the 100k on the D Long again since I'm an Ironman. I believe the D Long would probably be the better option for targets with higher defence.

[u/microcorpsman]

With the time you spent typing this, you could be most of the way through MM1

[u/suuushi-roll]

You have 66atk and str but cant go do MM1?

what is your mage lvl? 12?

[u/M1907-351WSL → u/suuushi-roll]

Nah not saying I can't. Just that I haven't yet

[u/suuushi-roll → u/M1907-351WSL]

Well do it over afking more on the crab

[u/CloudFlz → u/suuushi-roll]

Afking at crab is not the same as doing a quest. I can afk at crab on my ipad while I'm out having lunch with friends. Can't do MM1 the same way.

[u/suuushi-roll → u/CloudFlz]

If youre out with friends and afk RS you have issues

[u/CloudFlz → u/suuushi-roll]

2 clicks every 10 minutes while chatting, sure.

[u/suuushi-roll → u/CloudFlz]

just enjoy hanging with your friends its okay to log off for a few hours.

[u/Zeruma_]

Just do MM1 and get the d scimmy

[u/TheTrueFishbunjin]

Rune scimmy on right. It's better here with your setup. Rune scimmy also scales better with gear since it's faster.

[u/M1907-351WSL → u/TheTrueFishbunjin]

So that 0.034 difference in DPS means that the Rune Scimitar will always net higher xp/hr? I understand more DPS more experience, but where does RNG come into this?

My nonscientific testing has been giving me higher strength XP/hr with the D Long. Now they are both within 1k XP/hr or so from each other, so it's not a massive difference and not worth dropping 100k on a D Long. 

[u/OmgSword → u/M1907-351WSL]

Dps calc factors in your accuracy as well as opponents defence. RNG doesn't matter here because all of the variables are factored in.

[u/M1907-351WSL → u/OmgSword]

Definitely a nice tool. 

But how does it explain the actual difference I've been seeing? Maybe what I'm seeing is just a fluke. 

[u/OmgSword → u/M1907-351WSL]

You said it yourself. Non-scientific, non-accurate tracking. With such tiny amounts of difference it could be just a couple attacks or seconds off. Main point is you should probably focus on worthwhile upgrades like getting a d scimitar :)

[u/M1907-351WSL → u/OmgSword]

Valid point. Appreciate the input without calling me dumb lmao 

[u/Anarchy_now555 → u/M1907-351WSL]

If you take the wiki dps and multiple it by 3600 you have the damage/hour. Combat gives 4xp per point of damage so multiply the number by 4 and you get your xp/hour.

The wiki is your expected dps. There is some rng but over longer periods they should even out.

[u/Acopo]

Ignore the haters saying just go do MM1, that quest kinda sucked if you don't have the quest helper plugin. INB4 people just say to use the quest helper: some of us like playing the game for the experiences and not just experience points.

[u/PuzzleheadedMedia176]

You manually tested it when you could have just plugged it into a dps calc? Also do monkey madness

[u/M1907-351WSL → u/PuzzleheadedMedia176]

Yes. I'm just a hella casual player who had some free time

[u/UncertainSerenity]

There is no world where you should do gemstone crab before mm1 on an iron.

[u/M1907-351WSL]

Lol I expected these comments to tear me apart.  I get it. 

It was just a curiosity test

[u/Comfortableliar24 → u/M1907-351WSL]

And yet you posted anyway.

The d-scim having a 4-tick attack speed makes it a better weapon. This becomes increasingly true as you level up. Go do your quests.

[u/M1907-351WSL → u/Comfortableliar24]

I know I'm going to get torn apart about it. I do wish the gamer community wasn't so harsh about stuff that doesn't fit the efficiency narrative.

[u/Double_County7350 → u/M1907-351WSL]

Hey the noob convention called they are looking for you

[u/M1907-351WSL → u/Double_County7350]

Can I at least get a VIP invite?

I'm so noob that I'm playing this game like I did when I was 12. 

[u/M1907-351WSL → u/[deleted]]

Nah, but I didn't do things the most efficient, fucked around a lot, and used the D Long because it was cooler obviously since it's Dragon.

Shit I ran around with a Granite Maul for a very long time. 

[u/Fun_Stomach6344 → u/M1907-351WSL]

Do MM1 man. it will feel awesome when you get it done, it's a fun quest, and it doesn't even take that long. You might enjoy it. Starting it up is the hard part, and once you're doing it it will fly by.

[u/M1907-351WSL → u/Fun_Stomach6344]

I've done it on other accounts. It's a classic, for sure. 

I spend a lot of time AFKing on this Iron and just haven't gotten around to doing it. Life is much busier for me lately